Trump VS COVID-19 Threat

[Half-Life]

Fox News was just talking about how when the Swine Flu came about under Obama's administration, Obama enacted NO TRAVEL BAN and the disease spread to 60 million Americans. Yet, the media wasn't making fun of Obama for not doing enough. Trump declared a state of emergency 3 weeks after the first outbreak

after first telling a lot of lies about the virus and how prepared we are.
Lied about his being knowledgeable on the subject YET unaware that the flu kills people.

After three years of becoming famous for lying to us about EVERYTHING, he just has no credibility. He cannot calm the nation by convincing people he is in charge, has a plan, and cares about Americans more than his fucking reputation... just like you, comparing Bonespurs' response to Obama's.
I'd rather discuss what he can and will do for anyone who cannot afford to take a sivk day so they'll go flip burgers or fold tacos.

Keith, when you say people will "flip burgers or fold tacos," that is because their boss will not allow them to take sick days. They can't afford to close the business down. A lot of McDonald's are open 24 hours a day, Keith. Do you expect the managers to tell everyone to stay home? Who's going to work all the shifts?

Sure people can't afford to take sick days, but also their bosses won't allow it. I can just see how thrilled the manager would be having to come in and work 10pm-8am or something. It won't happen.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Fox News was just talking about how when the Swine Flu came about under Obama's administration, Obama enacted NO TRAVEL BAN and the disease spread to 60 million Americans. Yet, the media wasn't making fun of Obama for not doing enough. Trump declared a state of emergency 3 weeks after the first outbreak

after first telling a lot of lies about the virus and how prepared we are.
Lied about his being knowledgeable on the subject YET unaware that the flu kills people.

After three years of becoming famous for lying to us about EVERYTHING, he just has no credibility. He cannot calm the nation by convincing people he is in charge, has a plan, and cares about Americans more than his fucking reputation... just like you, comparing Bonespurs' response to Obama's.
I'd rather discuss what he can and will do for anyone who cannot afford to take a sivk day so they'll go flip burgers or fold tacos.

Keith, when you say people will "flip burgers or fold tacos," that is because their boss will not allow them to take sick days. They can't afford to close the business down. A lot of McDonald's are open 24 hours a day, Keith. Do you expect the managers to tell everyone to stay home? Who's going to work all the shifts?

Sure people can't afford to take sick days, but also their bosses won't allow it. I can just see how thrilled the manager would be having to come in and work 10pm-8am or something. It won't happen.

Are you still doing this caricature?

 

[ZiprHead]

Fox News was just talking about how when the Swine Flu came about under Obama's administration, Obama enacted NO TRAVEL BAN and the disease spread to 60 million Americans. Yet, the media wasn't making fun of Obama for not doing enough. Trump declared a state of emergency 3 weeks after the first outbreak and demanded military bases be quarantined. That's the first time in DECADES military bases were quarantined.

Trump has done more than any other President has done in terms of a pandemic.

Too bad liberal media won't tell you this. Hannity just said these are facts over feelings.

Bonespurs was briefed on COVID 19 three months ago and did nothing until just a few weeks ago.

Reply to add: The swine flu originated in North America. A travel ban would not have done anything at all to stop the spread.

Too bad liberal media won't tell you this. Hannity just said these are facts over feelings.

Hannity did what's called lying by omission. If you had done your own verification you would have known he was bull-shitting you.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

All viruses mutate. That's why we have to keep getting new flu shots every season and nobody can develop immunity to the family of corona viruses known as the "common cold".

We can't develop immunity to the "common cold" because it's really hundreds of closely related viruses, but not so closely related to get cross immunity.

 

[Keith&Co.]

Keith, when you say people will "flip burgers or fold tacos," that is because their boss will not allow them to take sick days.

yes. Exactly. These are the people i am asking for the president to do something about.

They can't afford to close the business down. A lot of McDonald's are open 24 hours a day, Keith. Do you expect the managers to tell everyone to stay home? Who's going to work all the shifts?

so, SICK people will have to choose between isolating themselves to prevent the spread, and losing their jobs, or going to work, which mesns thr border closing won't matter a fuck, we're gonna spread this on our own.

Sure people can't afford to take sick days, but also their bosses won't allow it. I can just see how thrilled the manager would be having to come in and work 10pm-8am or something. It won't happen.

so, the whole nation becomes a plague ship.
That was my question, thanx.

 

[ZiprHead]

Fox News was just talking about how when the Swine Flu came about under Obama's administration, Obama enacted NO TRAVEL BAN and the disease spread to 60 million Americans. Yet, the media wasn't making fun of Obama for not doing enough. Trump declared a state of emergency 3 weeks after the first outbreak

after first telling a lot of lies about the virus and how prepared we are.
Lied about his being knowledgeable on the subject YET unaware that the flu kills people.

After three years of becoming famous for lying to us about EVERYTHING, he just has no credibility. He cannot calm the nation by convincing people he is in charge, has a plan, and cares about Americans more than his fucking reputation... just like you, comparing Bonespurs' response to Obama's.
I'd rather discuss what he can and will do for anyone who cannot afford to take a sivk day so they'll go flip burgers or fold tacos.

Keith, when you say people will "flip burgers or fold tacos," that is because their boss will not allow them to take sick days. They can't afford to close the business down. A lot of McDonald's are open 24 hours a day, Keith. Do you expect the managers to tell everyone to stay home? Who's going to work all the shifts?

Sure people can't afford to take sick days, but also their bosses won't allow it. I can just see how thrilled the manager would be having to come in and work 10pm-8am or something. It won't happen.

Holy crap! You think it's more important to keeps McDonald's open and have disease ridden people making food for public consumption than shutting down for a few weeks? Amazing.

 

[Keith&Co.]

Holy crap! You think it's more important to keeps McDonald's open and have disease ridden people making food for public consumption than shutting down for a few weeks? Amazing.

Well, of course. The shitgibbon did say people with the virus can go to work, it'll blow over.

 

[lpetrich]

I watched AOC again, and I fact-checked where she claimed that Miami / Dade County will not cooperate with evictions during the coronavirus emergency. That is indeed correct: Evictions suspended in Miami-Dade during COVID-19 emergency | Miami Herald She thinks that it ought to be done more broadly, though it is a local and state issue. She also proposed suspending student-loan collection and also mortgage relief. Something like what Italy is doing.

Then what to do about detained and jailed people. Some people might think of AOC's proposals as going too easy on them, but they are good places for diseases like COVID-19 to spread.

Combining a moratorium on evictions with mortgage relief would be helpful for many landlords, so that they can survive lack of tenant rent payments much better.

She explains that stuff like avoiding large gatherings and social distancing are helpful, even if they don't absolutely stop the disease. They slow it down, and keep it from overloading hospitals and the like with sick people.

She will be going ahead with her tele town hall on Saturday.

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez calls for swift government action to protect Americans from coronavirus pandemic | Fox News Video - AOC finally appeared on Fox News, and it was because COVID-19 is so horrible. She noted that there are some some rumors that some Republicans were trying to sneak in anti-abortion stuff.

Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib on Twitter: ".@USFederalPrison—@RepAOC, @RepPressley, @NydiaVelazquez, and I asked for answers about your #coronavirus response plan yesterday. We need to know that incarcerated individuals will be provided with appropriate items and care—and we need to know ASAP. https://t.co/4tKovnQNmQ" / Twitter - lots of questions, like about briefing prison staff members about the virus, sanitary supplies, keeping the virus from spreading, and the like.

Barack Obama on Twitter: "If you’re wondering whether it’s an overreaction to cancel large gatherings and public events (and I love basketball), here’s a useful primer as to why these measures can slow the spread of the virus and save lives. We have to look out for each other. https://t.co/Ld7Uc8sPTQ" / Twitter
noting
Coronavirus chart: Canceled events and self-quarantines save lives by “flattening the curve” - Vox

According to infectious disease epidemiologist Marc Lipsitch at Harvard, it’s “plausible” that 20 to 60 percent of adults will be infected with Covid-19 disease. So far, 80 percent of cases globally have been mild, but if the case fatality rate is around 1 percent (which several experts say it may be), a scenario is possible of tens or hundreds of thousands of deaths in the US alone.

Yet the speed at which the outbreak plays out matters hugely for its consequences. What epidemiologists fear most is the health care system becoming overwhelmed by a sudden explosion of illness that requires more people to be hospitalized than it can handle. In that scenario, more people will die because there won’t be enough hospital beds or ventilators to keep them alive.

A disastrous inundation of hospitals can likely be averted with protective measures we’re now seeing more of — closing schools, canceling mass gatherings, working from home, self-quarantine, self-isolation, avoiding crowds — to keep the virus from spreading fast.

That is, flattening the curve.

 

[lpetrich]

Dr Siouxsie Wiles on Twitter: "Our #FlattenTheCurve graphic is now up on @Wikipedia with proper attribution & a CC-BY-SA licence. Please share far & wide and translate it into any language you can! Details in the thread below. #Covid_19 #COVID2019 #COVID19 #coronavirus Thanks to @XTOTL & @TheSpinoffTV https://t.co/BQop7yWu1Q" / Twitter

Hillary Clinton on Twitter: "I know this is all hard for you, @realdonaldtrump, so let me spell it out:
- Free testing
- Fee waivers
- Emergency sick leave
- Quarantines
- Cancellations
- Giving a damn" / Twitter

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "We need to dramatically expand #COVIDー19 testing and *processing* capacity.
It’s imperative to our public health that everyone who needs a test can get it easily and for free as quickly as possible - no matter whether you’re a sports star or a single parent. https://t.co/CbEibvr8r9" / Twitter
noting
Public Citizen on Twitter: ".@AOC: It almost seems like the more wealthy and powerful you are, the more able you are to access a test. https://t.co/VADTwdS6HO" / Twitter


Joy Reid on Twitter: "When you elect a president you are hiring a crisis manager; not a religious savior, an entertainer or a friend. That's it. That's the tweet." / Twitter

ǝpᴉuɥɔs on Twitter: "my teenage daughter edited together a version of trump's address with only heavy breathing moments and I honestly don't think I've ever been prouder of her
parental discretion advised
@dyl_seidel https://t.co/m8U8B1ZMcK" / Twitter


AOC on Fox News: Exclusive: AOC blames Bernie's lackluster performance on voter suppression - YouTube - also talks about coronavirus preparation

 

[funinspace]

Fox News was just talking about how when the Swine Flu came about under Obama's administration, Obama enacted NO TRAVEL BAN and the disease spread to 60 million Americans. Yet, the media wasn't making fun of Obama for not doing enough. Trump declared a state of emergency 3 weeks after the first outbreak and demanded military bases be quarantined. That's the first time in DECADES military bases were quarantined.

Trump has done more than any other President has done in terms of a pandemic.

Too bad liberal media won't tell you this. Hannity just said these are facts over feelings.

Hannity spreads manure not facts...more Orange English

Like already stated, this broke out in North America, and was in SW US before we knew it. Secondarily, the Swine Flu wasn't even close to being a more deadly one.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/2009-h1n1-pandemic.html

From April 12, 2009 to April 10, 2010, CDC estimated there were 60.8 million cases (range: 43.3-89.3 million), 274,304 hospitalizations (range: 195,086-402,719), and 12,469 deaths (range: 8868-18,306) in the United States due to the (H1N1)pdm09 virus.

From Sep 2018, talking about last winter (under FFvC, not that it was his fault):
https://www.statnews.com/2018/09/26/cdc-us-flu-deaths-winter/

An estimated 80,000 Americans died of flu and its complications last winter — the disease’s highest death toll in at least four decades.
<snip>
In recent years, flu-related deaths have ranged from about 12,000 to — in the worst year — 56,000, according to the CDC.

Orange English - The language where everything's made up and the meanings don't matter

 

[Elixir]

Orange English - The language where everything's made up and the meanings don't matter

But it's the only language understood by TEH STOOPIDS.

 

[ZiprHead]

 

[Cheerful Charlie]

https://www.alternet.org/2020/03/cr...from-expanding-medicaid-to-fight-coronavirus/
....
As states across the U.S. struggle to contain the novel coronavirus and treat those who have been infected, the Trump administration is blocking state governments from expanding Medicaid coverage to ensure that vulnerable populations are able to receive necessary healthcare in the face of the rapidly spreading pandemic.
The Los Angeles Times reported Friday that “despite mounting pleas from California and other states, the Trump administration isn’t allowing states to use Medicaid more freely to respond to the coronavirus crisis by expanding medical services.”

“It isn’t enough Trump and loyalists have catastrophically botched the response to this epidemic and lied about it. The admin is now blocking states from expanding medical services. Ghouls.”
—Rep. Bill Pascrell
....

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Stupid like this you can't buy. Trump and his administration are working overtime to own the coming fiasco.

 

[TSwizzle]

Odd. Just the other day CA governor Gavin Newsom was very appreciative of what President Trump provided for CA.

 

[Playball40]

But he sure is making sure to create a cash windfall for his and Rick Scott's companies. Fucker.

https://www.alternet.org/2020/03/cr...from-expanding-medicaid-to-fight-coronavirus/
....
As states across the U.S. struggle to contain the novel coronavirus and treat those who have been infected, the Trump administration is blocking state governments from expanding Medicaid coverage to ensure that vulnerable populations are able to receive necessary healthcare in the face of the rapidly spreading pandemic.
The Los Angeles Times reported Friday that “despite mounting pleas from California and other states, the Trump administration isn’t allowing states to use Medicaid more freely to respond to the coronavirus crisis by expanding medical services.”

“It isn’t enough Trump and loyalists have catastrophically botched the response to this epidemic and lied about it. The admin is now blocking states from expanding medical services. Ghouls.”
—Rep. Bill Pascrell
....

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Stupid like this you can't buy. Trump and his administration are working overtime to own the coming fiasco.

 

[lpetrich]

Trump declares a national emergency to combat coronavirus - CNNPolitics

President Donald Trump said Friday he was declaring a national emergency -- "two very big words" -- to free up $50 billion in federal resources to combat coronavirus even as he refused to take personal responsibility for administration failures early in the outbreak.

...
As he sought to project an air of competence, Trump denied there were missteps that some health experts say have aggravated the crisis.

"I don't take responsibility at all," he said, insisting problems that led to slow test-kit distribution were the fault of previous administrations. "We were given a set of circumstances and we were given rules, regulations and specifications from a different time."

He talked about being unified to fight the virus, though I suspect that his speechwriters deserve all the credit for that.

But Trump's own words at times belied a sense of political unity. He blamed Democrats for not bending enough in negotiations over a legislative package to combat coronavirus and he accused past administrations -- misleadingly -- of hampering his ability to confront the virus.

He also claimed to lack any knowledge that a pandemic control group within his own National Security Council was disbanded under his watch, calling a question on the topic "nasty."

"I don't know anything about it," he said. "When you say 'me,' I didn't do it."

Trump is a disgrace.

He has no sense of responsibility.

 

[lpetrich]

Opinion | Now Trump Really Needs to Talk About the 25th Amendment - POLITICO -- he is vulnerable to the COVID-19 coronavirus.

Trump himself never admits weakness. As a businessman and a leader, he resists looking too far ahead, and is known for simply dodging and weaving to keep bad news at bay—a quality that has already served him badly in handling the biggest crisis of his presidency. As for the people around him: He hand-picks his staff for personal loyalty over any particular principles, and replaces them when they fail to exhibit the blind allegiance he desires.

The 25th Amendment has been invoked only a few times, always voluntarily by presidents themselves when they’ve undergone surgery. If it’s hard to imagine Trump himself ceding power for any reason, it’s even harder to imagine the amendment’s powerful Section 4 being invoked, transferring power from the president without his consent. It requires consensus of the people close to him—specifically, “the vice president and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide.”

What a jerk. He deserves to have had the 25th Amendment used on him long ago.


Brian Stelter on Twitter: "Anonymous Fox producer: As the virus spreads, "the attempt to deflect and blame the media and Democrats from Trish Regan, Sean Hannity, Laura Ingraham, Lou Dobbs, Jesse Watters, and Greg Gutfeld... is really irresponsible and hazardous to our viewers" https://t.co/Cl1QPoMc2s" / Twitter

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "I’ve been discussing policy responses for Coronavirus, but there is plenty we can also do to care for each other, NYC!
- Check on your neighbors (can be through the door)
- Offer to run errands for the elderly
- Tip (a lot) extra if you can
- Donate to food pantries,shelters,etc" / Twitter
All of you, have you done anything like this? I'm not in much of a position to do any of that, except maybe with my housemates.

 

[lpetrich]

Will Congress offer coronavirus paid sick leave tax credit? | Modesto Bee

Businesses that give their employees paid sick leave during the coronavirus may get tax credits for doing so under a package of bills in the House of Representatives to help people and businesses during the COVID-19 pandemic.

The House is likely to vote on a bill Thursday to help people during the pandemic, which is expected to include paid sick leave, widespread free testing, food aid and more.

California freshman Rep. Josh Harder, D-Turlock, introduced a bill Thursday to make sure businesses who grant that sick leave are not fronting the entire cost. Instead, the bill would allow affected employers to claim a 90 percent tax credit of the qualified sick leave wages paid to employees who miss work because of the coronavirus.

Josh Harder on Twitter: "If you’re sick you shouldn’t be forced to go to work. I’m working to make sure we’re helping employers provide paid sick leave without putting more burden on small businesses. https://t.co/7yqa46N0aN" / Twitter

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "Rep. [MENTION=2]Jo[/MENTION]shHarder is also working hard to help small businesses offering paid sick leave during this time, with a proposal to offer a 90% tax credit on sick leave wages paid out by small businesses due to coronavirus.
[url]https://t.co/FEBOhBaPXs https://t.co/93DGhSC2AM" / Twitter[/url]

 

[lpetrich]

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "On the election end, @repblumenauer & @RepDonBeyer are pressing state governments to come up with plans for election continuity to account for coronavirus.
(In 2018, 58% (!) of poll workers were over 60. We have to protect them too.) [url]https://t.co/8F2wzSRc38 https://t.co/PVQlrWzttj" / Twitter[/url]
noting
Earl Blumenauer on Twitter: "@AOC While taking care of people comes first, we must also protect our democracy. @RepRaskin, @RepDelBene, and I are working to ensure our elections continue and allow everyone to vote at home if needed. https://t.co/zoC3oAuhh0" / Twitter

Proposing voting by mail. Something already done in a few states: CO, OR, WA, and starting this year, HI - All-Mail Elections (aka Vote-By-Mail)

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "There is a lot going wrong with the admin’s current response, but I also want to make to highlight some of the progress my House colleagues & I are making on Coronavirus response despite challenges.
(If you’re a House member & want your effort added just @ me!)
Thread " / Twitter

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "First up: as many of you saw yesterday, Katie Porter did a masterful job in Oversight to get the (hesitant) CDC to commit to FREE testing on Coronavirus https://t.co/4iuv9T3wcZ" / Twitter

Rep. Katie Porter on Twitter: "I did the math: a full battery of coronavirus testing costs at minimum $1,331.
I also did the legal research: the Administration has the authority to make testing free for every American TODAY.
I secured a commitment from a high-level Trump official that they’d actually do it. https://t.co/RmolCtmNbG" / Twitter
After he repeatedly tried to weasel out of doing so.

 

[Elixir]