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Trump VS COVID-19 Threat

barbos said:
Looks like doctor Trump was right, anti-malaria drug works against corona-virus tremendously well.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0924857920300996

Conclusion
Despite its small sample size our survey shows that hydroxychloroquine treatment is significantly associated with viral load reduction/disappearance in COVID-19 patients and its effect is reinforced by azithromycin.
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You posted the same thing in another thread, so it is worth pointing out that this study proves nothing because of its design--full knowledge by doctors and patients of who was getting the drug. A double-blind study that mixes placebos and actual medicine is needed to prove that the drug actually works as well as this study suggests, if at all.
 
“Ideas That Are Lying Around” on Twitter: ""[Coronavirus] has taken all of these slow-moving crises...and pressed fast forward on every single one.
So my constituents are talking to me about how am I going to afford rent? Will I be evicted? If I get sick, how much, is this going to cost me $10k?" -@AOC with @mehdirhasan https://t.co/hY4b2Gj9cw" / Twitter

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "Govs: Extended stay-at-home orders cannot be successful without issuing mortgage, rent, + debt moratoriums to go with them.
Many people are going out bc they are panicked about paying bills due next wk on the 1st.
Payment suspensions keep ppl indoors. Bills bring them outside." / Twitter

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "Eviction, foreclosure, & shut-off suspensions are good but they are nowhere near enough.
People don’t want to be in the position where the moment the orders are lifted there will be a marshal at their door. They still feel like rent is due unless a payment moratorium is called." / Twitter

AOC has been trying to convince some politicians to enact a rent freeze for the duration of the stay-at-home order.

32BJ SEIU on Twitter: "Airport workers on the front lines of #coronavirus exposure need:
✅ Comprehensive health care coverage
✅Paid sick & paid family medical leave
✅ Layoff protection via backpay/wage replacement for airport workers
Sign & support ➡️ [url]https://t.co/2WWFFu0SoU #protectallworkers" / Twitter[/url]
then
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "In NY & NJ *alone* over 2,500 airport workers are being laid off.
Meanwhile, Mitch McConnell & the GOP are pushing a crony capitalist slush fund bill for friends & donors, and slapped the word “Coronavirus” on it.
Hell no. We must put people FIRST: UBI, paid leave, health $,etc https://t.co/SrEzsRg64l" / Twitter

Stimulus package latest: Democrats continue to block Senate action as tensions run high in Congress - CNNPolitics
One key holdup appears to still be roughly $500 billion in funds for loans and loan guarantees for distressed companies, states and localities without enough guidelines or oversight to satisfy Democrats. They are seeking to ensure that any bailout for large companies will primarily benefit workers. But pushback from Democrats has centered on not only the substance of the legislation, but on the process that Republicans used to come up with it as well, arguing that they were locked out of negotiations at the start.
The failed vote Monday, however, is sure to incense Republicans even further, who have already angrily accused Democrats holding up efforts to move the package forward.
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Italian nurse: We're not even counting the dead anymore - YouTube

Michigan becomes latest state to issue stay-at-home order to curb coronavirus spread | Fox News

New York City Now Has More Confirmed Cases of Coronavirus Than All of South Korea
New York City now has more confirmed coronavirus cases than all of South Korea, a country with more than 51 million people, compared with a city of roughly over 8 million.

According to a Johns Hopkins University tracker, New York City has over 10,700 confirmed cases of the novel coronavirus, while South Korea has at least 8,961.
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About Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME):

Sheryl Gay Stolberg on Twitter: "Passions are high on the Senate floor. ..." / Twitter
Passions are high on the Senate floor. The ordinarily calm @SenatorCollins is railing against Dems for delaying consideration of coronavirus package: "This is disgraceful."

“We don’t have another day! We don’t have another hour. We don’t have another minute to delay acting.”

Across the aisle, @DickDurbin tells everyone to "take a deep breath" & calls for remote voting. Five senators in quarantine; one, Rand Paul is infected.

“We should not be physically on this floor at this moment. We know better….Lets think of this in human terms"

Now Ds and Rs are fighting past battles over who is working harder. @SherrodBrown complains that McConnell and Rs made Senate leave town after House passed its bill.

@SenAlexander responds that the House bill hadn't been written.

Is this what it has come down to?

And, as usual, the ever folksy @SenJohnKennedy hits the nail on the head:

“You know what the American people are thinking right now?” They're thinking that this country was founded by geniuses but it’s being run by a bunch of idiots.”
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The others: Dick Durbin (D-IL), Sherrod Brown (D-OH), Lamar Alexander (R-TN), John Kennedy (R-LA)
 
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: ".@SenatorCollins can keep her crocodile tears. ..." / Twitter
.@SenatorCollins can keep her crocodile tears.

She voted & fought HARD to strip pandemic prep funding. She helped drive the lack of preparation that we had leading up to this.

What’s actually disgraceful is her “I’m a Moderate Lady” dance to cover up brutal policies and votes.

Collins voted for the GOP tax scam.
She voted to appoint Kavanaugh.
She’s defending an utterly corrupt bill to shower public money on friends and donors.

Susan Collins is not a moderate. She just plays one on TV.

Info on the pandemic funding:
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Susan Collins’ Obama-Era Vote Against Pandemic Funding Comes Back to Haunt Her
For Maine Sen. Susan Collins, a lifelong Republican who believes in limited government, funding for pandemic flu preparations didn’t belong in the Obama administration’s economic stimulus plan. She lobbied hard to kill the money, and as one of only three Senate Republicans supporting the package, she had a lot of leverage with an administration desperate to show bipartisan support in a global economic crisis.

... Democrat David Obey, who chaired the House Appropriations committee at the time, took Collins to task:

“Whether or not this influenza strain turns out to have pandemic potential, sooner or later some strain will. We are not prepared today. Let’s hope we don’t need to be.”
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Michael Grunwald on Twitter: "I had forgotten my own reporting that @SenatorCollins stripped $870M for pandemic preparations out of the 2009 stimulus. https://t.co/VTriR6ZsCS" / Twitter
 
WINNING!

MAGA MAGA MAGA

We are going to be #1 in Active Cases - and in "a very short period of time".
Yeah, Italy has us by some 8 grand right now and they are more than fourfold over us in total deaths, but we have more than double their new cases, so our potential hasn't even begun to be realized. Just look at that far right column! A paltry 131 cases per million (but at least we're beating China and the UK!) - we can do way better than that. NYC is setting the example that we will follow, with about 1000 cases per million and increasing. Despite being so late to they party, we're gaining on everyone - even passed Iran in new deaths!
So much fun to keep track - the World O Meter here can be sorted by any of the columns, and has way more rows than the snip below. It is updated constantly, so you can make bets with your friends and provide hours of entertainment for the kids. I wonder if Half-Life would like to put something down on his prediction(s)? I'd love to be laughing in April.

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crazyfingers said:
And Trump is now listening to his son in law who wants to send sick people back to work?

Where is Dr Fauci?
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I think that Dr. Fauci may be in disfavor for not showing enough respect to the medical opinion of his highly regarded genius of a colleague. Apparently, he has told reporters that Trump is wrong too many times. Fauci probably won't be fired for now, but he may not be put in the limelight quite as often, after he told a report that he "couldn't jump in front of the microphone and push him down." Usually, Fauci is good at avoiding that kind of rhetoric, but the man is clearly exhausted from having to deal with a narcissistic idiot of a boss and this crisis at the same time.

Trump is looking at states like Idaho and Kansas, where it is very difficult to get tested. He is impressed by the low numbers of reported infections and thinks that he knows better how to handle the pandemic.
 
Blaine Bershad 🌈🌊🎵🐝🆘 on Twitter: "#BailOutPeopleNotCorporations
No taxpayer-funded stock buybacks
No #slushfund for Trump & Munchkin
All funds to corporations must be public, agreed to by Congress
Corporations must be registered in America Now, let's help Americans like Canada:" / Twitter
noting
Blaine Bershad 🌈🌊🎵🐝🆘 on Twitter: "All schools in Canada are closed for the rest of the school year, each family will receive $950 every two weeks for the next 15 weeks, banks were notified to suspend mortgage payments for at least 6 months, and student loans deferred. https://t.co/QiagSIpHzB" / Twitter
noting
Canada’s COVID-19 Economic Response Plan - Canada.ca

Release Aging People in Prison Campaign on Twitter: "Thank you ⁦@AOC⁩ for uplifting critical COVID-19 initiatives impacting people in U.S. prisons & jails:
✅ #FreeOurElders w/ elderly clemencies
✅ Curtail pre-trial detention
✅ Reduce arrests
We hope ⁦@NYGovCuomo⁩ & ⁦@NYCMayor⁩ are listening. #ClemencyNow https://t.co/9uDEN0vTBK" / Twitter
 
Copernicus said:
crazyfingers said:
And Trump is now listening to his son in law who wants to send sick people back to work?

Where is Dr Fauci?
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I think that Dr. Fauci may be in disfavor for not showing enough respect to the medical opinion of his highly regarded genius of a colleague. Apparently, he has told reporters that Trump is wrong too many times. Fauci probably won't be fired for now, but he may not be put in the limelight quite as often, after he told a report that he "couldn't jump in front of the microphone and push him down." Usually, Fauci is good at avoiding that kind of rhetoric, but the man is clearly exhausted from having to deal with a narcissistic idiot of a boss and this crisis at the same time.

Trump is looking at states like Idaho and Kansas, where it is very difficult to get tested. He is impressed by the low numbers of reported infections and thinks that he knows better how to handle the pandemic.
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Yeah, I saw that they trotted out the esteemed Doctor William Barr today, though I couldn't listen to him because I had to go change the cat box... is he their new epidemiologist, or is that Jared?
 
Copernicus said:
crazyfingers said:
And Trump is now listening to his son in law who wants to send sick people back to work?

Where is Dr Fauci?
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I think that Dr. Fauci may be in disfavor for not showing enough respect to the medical opinion of his highly regarded genius of a colleague. Apparently, he has told reporters that Trump is wrong too many times. Fauci probably won't be fired for now, but he may not be put in the limelight quite as often, after he told a report that he "couldn't jump in front of the microphone and push him down." Usually, Fauci is good at avoiding that kind of rhetoric, but the man is clearly exhausted from having to deal with a narcissistic idiot of a boss and this crisis at the same time.

Trump is looking at states like Idaho and Kansas, where it is very difficult to get tested. He is impressed by the low numbers of reported infections and thinks that he knows better how to handle the pandemic.
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What I have been fearing. I had hoped that attempts to sideline Fauci might finally start an effort to 25th Rump.
 
ZiprHead said:
‘I’ll be the oversight’: Trump vows he will personally oversee $500 billion coronavirus slush fund

At his daily coronavirus press briefing, President Donald Trump was asked to justify the provision in the Republican stimulus bill that would grant his administration an unrestricted $500 billion slush fund to be distributed to any corporation imaginable with zero oversight or transparency.

His response was that he would be the entire oversight of the program.
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Well that sounds like a solid plan. Give oversight of a half trillion dollars to a guy who bankrupted a casino.
 
ZiprHead said:
‘I’ll be the oversight’: Trump vows he will personally oversee $500 billion coronavirus slush fund
At his daily coronavirus press briefing, President Donald Trump was asked to justify the provision in the Republican stimulus bill that would grant his administration an unrestricted $500 billion slush fund to be distributed to any corporation imaginable with zero oversight or transparency.

His response was that he would be the entire oversight of the program.
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He considers himself that best at just about everything, no matter how incompetent he actually is.

He deserves the 25th Amendment used on him.
 
It is interesting that Donald Trump says that he is rethinking strategy on dealing with the pandemic, and he will "listen to" Dr. Fauci and others but make his own decision. Apparently, Trump thinks that the social distancing thing won't work for our country, so he may decide to cancel it. Apparently, Trump thinks that he started that trend, but he never issued any orders to close anything down. Not schools, not churches, not businesses. Those orders all came at state and local levels, not the federal level. So he can't actually rescind anything, just blabber on about how everyone should do what he says. Personally, I think he should go in a corner with a bottle of chloroquine pills and start munching on them while the rest of the country mobilizes and organizes itself. Federal leadership at this point is going to make things so much worse than they need to be, given who the leader is.
 
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