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Trump VS COVID-19 Threat

When Trump issued his travel ban order, he was the only one in the room who agreed with it. Everyone else was telling him not to do it and Trump decided to do it. How many deaths were in the U.S. as a result of corona when Trump enacted the travel ban? I will wait for you guys to look up the answer.

Fauci even said if Trump hadn't done that, more lives would've been lost. Remember, this is the same Fauci who told us on March 9 that we can all go party on cruise ships if we want.
 
When Trump issued his travel ban order, he was the only one in the room who agreed with it. Everyone else was telling him not to do it and Trump decided to do it. How many deaths were in the U.S. as a result of corona when Trump enacted the travel ban? I will wait for you guys to look up the answer.

Fauci even said if Trump hadn't done that, more lives would've been lost. Remember, this is the same Fauci who told us on March 9 that we can all go party on cruise ships if we want.

Everyone said it was a stupid fucking idea, as Trump's "Travel ban" wasn't actually a ban, Banning Chinese people entering the country whilst letting Americans who have been exposed whilst in China back into the country without any measure is completely ineffective. Do you need an explanation as to why? And given your propensity to absolutely butcher quotes to further your own narrative, I'm inclined to believe Fauci said nothing of the sort.
 
When Trump issued his travel ban order, he was the only one in the room who agreed with it. Everyone else was telling him not to do it and Trump decided to do it. How many deaths were in the U.S. as a result of corona when Trump enacted the travel ban? I will wait for you guys to look up the answer.

Fauci even said if Trump hadn't done that, more lives would've been lost. Remember, this is the same Fauci who told us on March 9 that we can all go party on cruise ships if we want.

Everyone said it was a stupid fucking idea, as Trump's "Travel ban" wasn't actually a ban, Banning Chinese people entering the country whilst letting Americans who have been exposed whilst in China back into the country without any measure is completely ineffective. Do you need an explanation as to why? And given your propensity to absolutely butcher quotes to further your own narrative, I'm inclined to believe Fauci said nothing of the sort.

Wait a second, if Trump left those Americans in China and told them, "You can't come home!" you guys would be saying, "Dictator! Dictator! He won't let Americans return home! What an evil narcissist!"

He faced a damned if he does, damned if he doesn't decision, like he does every single day with the TDS crowd.
 
And given your propensity to absolutely butcher quotes to further your own narrative, I'm inclined to believe Fauci said nothing of the sort.
Good call. He did NOT say we could all go on a cruise, as a matter of fact.

COVID-19 Travel Update: Fauci Says Cruising Is OK If You Are Healthy (March 9)

“If you are a healthy young person, there is no reason if you want to go on a cruise ship, go on a cruise ship.”

https://www.forbes.com/sites/douggo...ising-is-ok-if-you-are-healthy/#4e132d3d2d4dB

That's the "genius doctor" telling us to go party on March 9 while you guys were screaming your heads off that Trump should've done something in January. The travel ban was January 31, by the way. So a month and a half later, Fauci was still downplaying it while Trump took it seriously.

C'mon guys. Use your brains!!
 
Wait a second, if Trump left those Americans in China and told them, "You can't come home!" you guys would be saying, "Dictator! Dictator! He won't let Americans return home! What an evil narcissist!"

Nope, and once again you aren't comprehending what I said. I said Trumps travel ban was/is ineffective. And I'm right. Everything else is supposition on your part.

He faced a damned if he does, damned if he doesn't decision, like he does every single day with the TDS crowd.

Not quite. He's faced with a listen to the experts, or do whatever the fuck he wants choice. And every time the dumb cunt has selected the latter. Putting someone's decisions under scrutiny is the very definition of accountability. I'm not surprised you're against it, but I prefer governments to have some oversight. I guess it's a lefty thing.
 
And given your propensity to absolutely butcher quotes to further your own narrative, I'm inclined to believe Fauci said nothing of the sort.
Good call. He did NOT say we could all go on a cruise, as a matter of fact.

COVID-19 Travel Update: Fauci Says Cruising Is OK If You Are Healthy (March 9)

“If you are a healthy young person, there is no reason if you want to go on a cruise ship, go on a cruise ship.”

https://www.forbes.com/sites/douggo...ising-is-ok-if-you-are-healthy/#4e132d3d2d4dB

That's the "genius doctor" telling us to go party on March 9 while you guys were screaming your heads off that Trump should've done something in January. The travel ban was January 31, by the way. So a month and a half later, Fauci was still downplaying it while Trump took it seriously.

C'mon guys. Use your brains!!

You first
When Trump issued his travel ban order, he was the only one in the room who agreed with it. Everyone else was telling him not to do it and Trump decided to do it. How many deaths were in the U.S. as a result of corona when Trump enacted the travel ban? I will wait for you guys to look up the answer.

Fauci even said if Trump hadn't done that, more lives would've been lost. Remember, this is the same Fauci who told us on March 9 that we can all go party on cruise ships if we want.

But this is typically how you argue isn't it? Take one thing that is easily verifiable and use it to piggyback some other bullshit you're trying to peddle.
 
Everyone said it was a stupid fucking idea, as Trump's "Travel ban" wasn't actually a ban, Banning Chinese people entering the country whilst letting Americans who have been exposed whilst in China back into the country without any measure is completely ineffective. Do you need an explanation as to why? And given your propensity to absolutely butcher quotes to further your own narrative, I'm inclined to believe Fauci said nothing of the sort.

Wait a second, if Trump left those Americans in China and told them, "You can't come home!" you guys would be saying, "Dictator! Dictator! He won't let Americans return home! What an evil narcissist!"

He faced a damned if he does, damned if he doesn't decision, like he does every single day with the TDS crowd.
Here's a fun little exercise. Can you reconcile the first bolded quote with your bizarro paraphrase of Patooka in the second bolded quote?

Honestly, I don't even know why any of us bother writing back to you. You don't read what we write, you just imagine the most ridiculous thing a person could write and assume that that is what we wrote.

We simply aren't having discussions with eachother. You are having private discussions with your own imaginary straw man. And you insist it's US who are deranged????
 
Everyone said it was a stupid fucking idea, as Trump's "Travel ban" wasn't actually a ban, Banning Chinese people entering the country whilst letting Americans who have been exposed whilst in China back into the country without any measure is completely ineffective. Do you need an explanation as to why? And given your propensity to absolutely butcher quotes to further your own narrative, I'm inclined to believe Fauci said nothing of the sort.

Wait a second, if Trump left those Americans in China and told them, "You can't come home!" you guys would be saying, "Dictator! Dictator! He won't let Americans return home! What an evil narcissist!"

He faced a damned if he does, damned if he doesn't decision, like he does every single day with the TDS crowd.
Here's a fun little exercise. Can you reconcile the first bolded quote with your bizarro paraphrase of Patooka in the second bolded quote?

Honestly, I don't even know why any of us bother writing back to you. You don't read what we write, you just imagine the most ridiculous thing a person could write and assume that that is what we wrote.

We simply aren't having discussions with eachother. You are having private discussions with your own imaginary straw man. And you insist it's US who are deranged????

Suppose Trump enacted no travel ban. Millions more would've shoveled into America. That is why Italy got hit so hard. Trump put the ban to America so they all ended up going to Italy and Italy became a hotbed. THAT would've been us on a much larger scale if Trump did not enact the travel ban. Perhaps Italy's President shuld've imposed a lockdown sooner and they wouldn't have such a big infestation.

That's how it works with you guys. Blame Trump for the U.S.'s infections but Italy's infections? Can't blame the Prime Miinster! They just had a bit of of bad luck. Aww golly shucks!
 
But this is typically how you argue isn't it? Take one thing that is easily verifiable and use it to piggyback some other bullshit you're trying to peddle.
but he's not even piggybacking. Fauci certainly did not tell us ALL to go on a cruise. I have a few medical conditions that even back then they were advising caution with resoect yo travel. So that quailifier, 'if you are young and healthy' is kinda the opposite of saying we could 'all' go party. He clearly wasn't telling ME to downplay the virus.
Halfie is mis-stating the message, to blame someone, ANYONE, other than Tweedle Dee Dotard.
 
Here's a fun little exercise. Can you reconcile the first bolded quote with your bizarro paraphrase of Patooka in the second bolded quote?

Honestly, I don't even know why any of us bother writing back to you. You don't read what we write, you just imagine the most ridiculous thing a person could write and assume that that is what we wrote.

We simply aren't having discussions with eachother. You are having private discussions with your own imaginary straw man. And you insist it's US who are deranged????

Suppose Trump enacted no travel ban. Millions more would've shoveled into America. That is why Italy got hit so hard. Trump put the ban to America so they all ended up going to Italy and Italy became a hotbed. THAT would've been us on a much larger scale if Trump did not enact the travel ban. Perhaps Italy's President shuld've imposed a lockdown sooner and they wouldn't have such a big infestation.

That's how it works with you guys. Blame Trump for the U.S.'s infections but Italy's infections? Can't blame the Prime Miinster! They just had a bit of of bad luck. Aww golly shucks!

Trump's ban came after the airlines suspended flights. Plus there were eleven categories of exceptions. Some 40k came to the US from China after the ban.
 
Here's a fun little exercise. Can you reconcile the first bolded quote with your bizarro paraphrase of Patooka in the second bolded quote?

Honestly, I don't even know why any of us bother writing back to you. You don't read what we write, you just imagine the most ridiculous thing a person could write and assume that that is what we wrote.

We simply aren't having discussions with eachother. You are having private discussions with your own imaginary straw man. And you insist it's US who are deranged????

Suppose Trump enacted no travel ban. Millions more would've shoveled into America. That is why Italy got hit so hard. Trump put the ban to America so they all ended up going to Italy and Italy became a hotbed. THAT would've been us on a much larger scale if Trump did not enact the travel ban. Perhaps Italy's President shuld've imposed a lockdown sooner and they wouldn't have such a big infestation.

That's how it works with you guys. Blame Trump for the U.S.'s infections but Italy's infections? Can't blame the Prime Miinster! They just had a bit of of bad luck. Aww golly shucks!
You didn't respond to a single thing I wrote. Why? I mean at least this post was on topic for the thread. I'll give you credit for that. But nothing I wrote was addressed here.

Maybe this was just your way of totally agreeing with me that you don't actually have discussions with us. It's all an imaginary discussion you are having with yourself. Okay. Just don't expect anyone who is paying attention to take you seriously.
 
Suppose Trump enacted no travel ban. Millions more would've shoveled into America. That is why Italy got hit so hard. Trump put the ban to America so they all ended up going to Italy and Italy became a hotbed.

So that's how international travel works, huh? Maybe I'm just a clueless fucking moron who is mentally flailing throwing out random bullshit scenarios that have no relevance to the discussion at hand, but if I were travelling to the US and a ban was implemented, I would divert to Canada,Mexico, Cuba or even Haiti. Italy wouldn't even be in the top 30 alternate sites. I guess I am a clueless fucktard with no idea how internatinal flights work, I'm just grateful I have you to educate me.

That's how it works with you guys. Blame Trump for the U.S.'s infections

Yes! That's exactly how it works! Finally we are in agreement! This is fantastic! Progress is being made!

but Italy's infections? Can't blame the Prime Miinster! They just had a bit of of bad luck. Aww golly shucks!

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For. Fucks. Sake.

The thread is called, "Trump VS COVID-19 Threat". The reason Giuseppe Conte isn't mentioned a lot in this thread is the same reason Michael Caton isn't mentioned; they're completely irrelevant to the conversation at hand. But at least you now know Italy's head of state is called the Prime Minister. You're welcome, by the way. That link also has the reason why people are more critical of Trump's reaction compared to the Italian government, if you ever actually learn comprehension.
 
Here's a fun little exercise. Can you reconcile the first bolded quote with your bizarro paraphrase of Patooka in the second bolded quote?

Honestly, I don't even know why any of us bother writing back to you. You don't read what we write, you just imagine the most ridiculous thing a person could write and assume that that is what we wrote.

We simply aren't having discussions with eachother. You are having private discussions with your own imaginary straw man. And you insist it's US who are deranged????

Suppose Trump enacted no travel ban. Millions more would've shoveled into America. That is why Italy got hit so hard. Trump put the ban to America so they all ended up going to Italy and Italy became a hotbed. THAT would've been us on a much larger scale if Trump did not enact the travel ban. Perhaps Italy's President shuld've imposed a lockdown sooner and they wouldn't have such a big infestation.

That's how it works with you guys. Blame Trump for the U.S.'s infections but Italy's infections? Can't blame the Prime Miinster! They just had a bit of of bad luck. Aww golly shucks!
You didn't respond to a single thing I wrote. Why? I mean at least this post was on topic for the thread. I'll give you credit for that. But nothing I wrote was addressed here.

Maybe this was just your way of totally agreeing with me that you don't actually have discussions with us. It's all an imaginary discussion you are having with yourself. Okay. Just don't expect anyone who is paying attention to take you seriously.

He makes up his own conversations because he likes to pleasure himself. He is not interested in what other people actually think, he gets off on only what he imagines they think.

Wait a second, if Trump left those Americans in China and told them, "You can't come home!" you guys would be saying, "Dictator! Dictator! He won't let Americans return home! What an evil narcissist!"

There you go again. Making up your own conversation and imagining we said it.
Halfie, you are just talking to yourself, not to anyone here. You are just pleasuring yourself in front of everyone. Why do you have to do that in public?
 
Halfie, you are just talking to yourself, not to anyone here. You are just pleasuring yourself in front of everyone. Why do you have to do that in public?

Misplaced confidence? I wish I had the level of self esteem required to pull it off (pun most definitely intended).
 
When Trump issued his travel ban order, he was the only one in the room who agreed with it. Everyone else was telling him not to do it and Trump decided to do it. How many deaths were in the U.S. as a result of corona when Trump enacted the travel ban? I will wait for you guys to look up the answer.

Fauci even said if Trump hadn't done that, more lives would've been lost. Remember, this is the same Fauci who told us on March 9 that we can all go party on cruise ships if we want.

Once again you show your ignorance of things.

His Flatulence's travel bans were closing the barn doors when the horses were long gone. They came way too late to do any good. The only countries that should have travel bans are places that are serious about stamping it out--and that's not the US. Even then a 14 day quarantine is better than an outright ban, but I can understand bans while they're getting the quarantine system set up. (Or what China has done--suspended all existing visas but they are permitting some new ones--keeping down the number of people they have to quarantine.)
 
Wait a second, if Trump left those Americans in China and told them, "You can't come home!" you guys would be saying, "Dictator! Dictator! He won't let Americans return home! What an evil narcissist!"

He faced a damned if he does, damned if he doesn't decision, like he does every single day with the TDS crowd.

They could be quarantined. As it is they only quarantined people from Wuhan, anyone else they sent on through even with obvious symptoms.
 
Suppose Trump enacted no travel ban. Millions more would've shoveled into America. That is why Italy got hit so hard. Trump put the ban to America so they all ended up going to Italy and Italy became a hotbed. THAT would've been us on a much larger scale if Trump did not enact the travel ban. Perhaps Italy's President shuld've imposed a lockdown sooner and they wouldn't have such a big infestation.

That's how it works with you guys. Blame Trump for the U.S.'s infections but Italy's infections? Can't blame the Prime Miinster! They just had a bit of of bad luck. Aww golly shucks!

Millions more? When there weren't even any flights? The airlines had cancelled almost all flights by then anyway. And Italy was already infected by the time His Flatulence acted, he didn't drive anyone to Italy.
 
Suppose Trump enacted no travel ban. Millions more would've shoveled into America. That is why Italy got hit so hard. Trump put the ban to America so they all ended up going to Italy and Italy became a hotbed. THAT would've been us on a much larger scale if Trump did not enact the travel ban. Perhaps Italy's President shuld've imposed a lockdown sooner and they wouldn't have such a big infestation.

That's how it works with you guys. Blame Trump for the U.S.'s infections but Italy's infections? Can't blame the Prime Miinster! They just had a bit of of bad luck. Aww golly shucks!

Millions more? When there weren't even any flights? The airlines had cancelled almost all flights by then anyway. And Italy was already infected by the time His Flatulence acted, he didn't drive anyone to Italy.

You didn't hear? Millions of infected Chinese residents of Wuhan province had their tickets and were ready to be "shoveled" into America, but when Dear Leader's travel ban went into effect, they all said "fuck it, let's vacation in Italy instead."

I'm pretty sure I saw a news story with the headline "Millions of Chinese Flood Into Italy" somewhere. It's just taking me a long time to find it for some reason...

:rolleyes:
 
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