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I think the reviews that Vance won are based on the fact he did not appear as fucking loony and deranged as he does in public.
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Same here. I didn't see a Vance win. It wasn't only the several lies, but also he skipped answering most of the questions. Speaking in response to a question, and ANSWERING the question, are two different things.
What's underneath Vance's "polished" lying is still loony BS. The inability to admit "yeah the Republican ticket lost in 2020" is a whopper of a lie. Then that ridiculous crap about "but there WAS a peaceful transfer of power on January 20". Yeah, so after losing his bid to hold onto power, 2 weeks later Trump had to leave the building... and so he gets credit for that?? Imagine if a Nazi said "Well, we DID surrender in the end so I don't know what you people are complaining about".
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On Australian TV news last night the Australian ABC, whom right-wingers say is left-wing (it isn't), in its "coverage" of the VP debate only mentioned one specific item -Tim Walz saying that he was a "friend to school shooters". They might as well be SkyNews.
Obviously, Walz got his words mixed up, but everyone should realize it is simply a verbal gaffe if they are being honest.
Obviously, Walz got his words mixed up, but everyone should realize it is simply a verbal gaffe if they are being honest.
Watch Insiders for a bit and count the amount of guests who are Murdoch cronies. The ABC has very much become the "We have Sky News at home" of networks.
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"Kitty, did you throw up on the couch?"
"Tim, I'm focused on the future."
"Tim, I'm focused on the future."
Shadowy Man
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“What’s your birthdate?”
“I’m focused on the future.”
“Do you know how fast you were driving?”
“I’m focused on the future.”
“I’m focused on the future.”
“Do you know how fast you were driving?”
“I’m focused on the future.”
barbos
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Regardless of who was a bigger liar, who won?
I'm more focused on the future.
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Vance was the bigger liar; indeed, Walz is not a liar. The general consensus of analysts is that Walz won.
barbos
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Politician who is not a liar?!
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Everybody lies, so yes politicians also tell lies. But there is a huge difference between a habitual liar (Trump, Vance, most Republican and conservative politicians), and an occasional or accidental liar.
Shadowy Man
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One thing right wingers always fail on is the recognition of the importance of nuance and degree.
Elixir
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Heh! That’s what Vance sez about election interference.
Shadowy Man
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Yes. Vance is more concerned about interfering with the next election.
barbos
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Yes, democrats lie 10% less than Trump
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That is mathematically implausible. Trump all by himself has told more lies than every other US president and former president combined.
A more accurate figure would be 99%.
barbos
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I remember MSM counting lies Clinton and Trump said during debates. Clinton was 40% and Trump I don't remember.
So even if we assume 100% it's still not 1% .
Shadowy Man
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Are you sure? Barbos’ number seems very well thought out.
Elixir
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FIFY.
(Parts in all-caps added for clarity & accuracy)
It’s rare that I agree with babs, but this is one of those times.