Well... it's Trump... again. #47, here we go.

[Shadowy Man]

Trump is claiming that he sent the US military to California and had them turn on the water to Pacific Palisades.

He lied.

Trump says he sent the military into California to turn the water on. That didn’t happen

His press secretary has doubled down on the lie.

Sorry, but I clearly heard her say she wouldn't lie.

Especially with that big fucking cross hanging from her neck.

Maybe it’s just me but something seemed off about the dimensions of her cross. Anybody else notice that?

 

[Politesse]

The hurt from unfunded programs needs to directly hit the lower income and working class voters that gave us Trump -- that may be the only way to rein in this man's worst and dumbest instincts.

Sentiments like this treat entire demographics as monolithic blocks, when they aren't. Are you really so cruel as to subject millions of people to actions you know to be structurally criminal and morally unjust, just to punish them for the sins of their neighbors? Is that logic really better than the kind of tough love Trump's Silicon Valley croneys think they are employing, throwing a few million innocents under the bus in order to build their little promised utopia?

But your request is redundant, anyway. Whenever any program is cut, it's always the working class or almost-working class or formerly working class that suffers the most. Our entire economic system is designed to make that happen every single time. That's part of why they're all so fucking mad all the time. They don't have enough information to understand why they are always the ones to get shafted or who exactly is doing the shafting, but they know they are the ones who get burned every time. Even if you didn't hear the joke, when you get home from a 12 hr work day to take a quick nap under the blackout curtains before starting the shift at your other job, and find that your "earned income tax credit" has arrived in the mail to the tune of a few hundred dollars that won't do shit about the bills, you're know you're the goddamned punchline.

 

[Politesse]

Anyways, a lot of the grant distribution cancellations have been put on stay for legal review... all of minutes before they were set to be implemented. This, at least, reminds me a lot of Trump Administration Pt I. Well, that's what is was often like being a gov't employee under the first administration in any case. Hopefully the can will be kicked down the road for a couple of weeks while an airtight case is being built.

 

[ideologyhunter]

Are you really so cruel as to subject

Oh, pshaw. I can't subject anyone to anything. Our new emperor and his merry men are doing that.
Outside of hurt, refusal of benefits and services, and the shock of realizing that Trump never was for "the forgotten man", I don't see any other way that the mass psychosis he's cast on the land can be scaled back.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Anyways, a lot of the grant distribution cancellations have been put on stay for legal review... all of minutes before they were set to be implemented. This, at least, reminds me a lot of Trump Administration Pt I. Well, that's what is was often like being a gov't employee under the first administration in any case. Hopefully the can will be kicked down the road for a couple of weeks while an airtight case is being built.

“The government doesn’t know the full scope of the programs that are going to be subject to the pause,” AliKhan said after pressing an attorney for the Justice Department on what programs the freeze would apply to. AliKhan is expected to consider a longer-term pause on the policy early next week.

What a shit show! So, the Project 2025 plan had all of this stuff laid out and the plan was to stop *.*? And when it became apparent that was a disastrous idea, they had no fucking clue what was and wasn't intended to be paused. And when before a judge, the poor sap lawyer for the Justice Department was without a plan.

Shocked they didn't argue the plaintiffs had no standing because the Trump Admin didn't know what the fuck it was doing itself. People voted for this shit show... on purpose!

 

[crazyfingers]

So Trump has his goon Hegseth remove General Milley's security detail and starts an investigation into him. Trump is behaving more and more like a terrorist.

 

[ZiprHead]

 

[ideologyhunter]

The forgotten man was...Elon Musk?

 

[RVonse]

The prevailing viewpoint of many in the MAGA movement is that Democrats and establishment RINOs are bought off by big pharma, big agriculture, and bankers to rob us and poison us. They murder people at will when someone gets in their way. They plan 9/11, for example, to get us involved in wars and rob our money, not even batting an eye at the murder of Americans. They have open borders in order to destroy American culture, steal our jobs, lower our wages, and allow rampant crime. They also have access to sex with kids and frequently partake through their networks of celebrities and other elites.

I constantly hear people remark how all the establishment politicians are very corrupt and belong in jail. That they are destroying the country.

Given all that, what's a couple thousand pardoned felons (who were politically persecuted) in comparison? You don't have to be a sociopath to prefer Trump to that if your brain rot has spread this deep, which it most definitely has for millions of Americans.

I don't always agree with you Axulus but I greatly admire your ability to comprehend what the other side is thinking here. If only more of us could do what you are able to do. Perhaps all of us could collectively fix problems while treating our fellow citizens with decency.

But for most everyone else on this thread knowing how dumb and corrupt Trump and MAGA are, could I hear your response on Biden's pre-emptive pardons for INNOCENT people prior to leaving office? Because in the final analysis, there can only be 2 possibilities for what just happened in full daylight:

1) Bidens pardons were for people who really were (and are) criminals. People who were family members and friends of his.
or
2) Our justice system is hopelessly incapable of providing non political and unbiased justice, and that Biden (who was our previous president) knows this first hand

NEITHER of these choices speaks well for our government. On Bidens recent actions alone, you can see outstanding evidence our government is truely as corrupt as MAGA accuses it of being.

It aint what you know that can get you into trouble. Its what you know for sure that just ain't so. Mark Twian.

 

[GenesisNemesis]

Free Luigi.

 

[bilby]

2) Our justice system under a Trump administration is hopelessly incapable of providing non political and unbiased justice, and that Biden (who was our previous president) knows this first hand

FTFY.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

The prevailing viewpoint of many in the MAGA movement is that Democrats and establishment RINOs are bought off by big pharma, big agriculture, and bankers to rob us and poison us. They murder people at will when someone gets in their way. They plan 9/11, for example, to get us involved in wars and rob our money, not even batting an eye at the murder of Americans. They have open borders in order to destroy American culture, steal our jobs, lower our wages, and allow rampant crime. They also have access to sex with kids and frequently partake through their networks of celebrities and other elites.

I constantly hear people remark how all the establishment politicians are very corrupt and belong in jail. That they are destroying the country.

Given all that, what's a couple thousand pardoned felons (who were politically persecuted) in comparison? You don't have to be a sociopath to prefer Trump to that if your brain rot has spread this deep, which it most definitely has for millions of Americans.

I don't always agree with you Axulus but I greatly admire your ability to comprehend what the other side is thinking here. If only more of us could do what you are able to do. Perhaps all of us could collectively fix problems while treating our fellow citizens with decency.

But for most everyone else on this thread knowing how dumb and corrupt Trump and MAGA are, could I hear your response on Biden's pre-emptive pardons for INNOCENT people prior to leaving office? Because in the final analysis, there can only be 2 possibilities for what just happened in full daylight:

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has decided to remove retired Gen. Mark A. Milley’s security detail, revoke his security clearance, and order an inspector general inquiry into his behavior as the Pentagon’s top officer, a senior defense official said Tuesday, taking extraordinary action against a frequent target of President Donald Trump.

The move comes after years of Trump criticizing Milley for perceived disloyalty and Milley acknowledging in congressional testimony that he had served as a source for several unflattering books about the first Trump administration. Milley, 66, retired in 2023 following four tumultuous years as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff under both Trump and President Joe Biden.

Hegseth’s plan, first reported by Fox News, is part of the new defense secretary’s effort to reestablish “warfighter culture” in the Pentagon, the senior defense official said, speaking on the condition of anonymity to avoid backlash. The official portrayed Milley as a political operator while in the chairman role and said there is desire to “take a star” from him, meaning administration officials want to see Milley demoted in retirement.

link

It escapes me how you can't possibly see any of this.

2) Our justice system is hopelessly incapable of providing non political and unbiased justice, and that Biden (who was our previous president) knows this first hand

NEITHER of these choices speaks well for our government. On Bidens recent actions alone, you can see outstanding evidence our government is truely as corrupt as MAGA accuses it of being.

MAGA is the problem. Fuck! I'd have better luck communicating with a dead horse.

 

[jonatha]

It aint what you know that can get you into trouble. Its what you know for sure that just ain't so. Mark Twian.

The irony....

 

[Spacetime Inhabitant]

Its amazing how a small quantity of individuals who have no control of the groups that actually control education (such as school boards and state education departments) somehow have all this power, when the actual individuals in charge are usually conservatives.

Not hardly. The US university system has fully embraced the woke bs and churns out clones and little brown shirts that try to quash dissenting opinions, particularly when it comes to gender or Israel.

Also, anti-semites are usually right-wingers. {snip}

lol. The left has always hated the Jews.

Also education was generally fine for decades before Republicans ramped up their interference in it, bringing their ideological biases into play. For instance Texas has control of what's in many school texts, and Florida is on an anti-intellectual rampage, banning books, specifying weird things that must be taught and stopping traditionally taught facts and concepts, and so on. Both of these are Republican states.

I am not familiar with these states but I expect you are disappointed that porn books have been purged from the kindergartner's library or something.

Are you OK? What's with this obsession with porn; I certainly didn't mention it. You aren't familiar with Texas and Florida?! What does that mean, and how couldn't you be? If you aren't why did you claim porn books have been purged from kindergartens as if you had intimate knowledge of what is happening there? Could it be, shock, horror, that you made that up?

The prevailing viewpoint of many in the MAGA movement is that Democrats and establishment RINOs are bought off by big pharma, big agriculture, and bankers to rob us and poison us. They murder people at will when someone gets in their way. They plan 9/11, for example, to get us involved in wars and rob our money, not even batting an eye at the murder of Americans. They have open borders in order to destroy American culture, steal our jobs, lower our wages, and allow rampant crime. They also have access to sex with kids and frequently partake through their networks of celebrities and other elites.

I constantly hear people remark how all the establishment politicians are very corrupt and belong in jail. That they are destroying the country.

Given all that, what's a couple thousand pardoned felons (who were politically persecuted) in comparison? You don't have to be a sociopath to prefer Trump to that if your brain rot has spread this deep, which it most definitely has for millions of Americans.

I don't always agree with you Axulus but I greatly admire your ability to comprehend what the other side is thinking here. If only more of us could do what you are able to do. Perhaps all of us could collectively fix problems while treating our fellow citizens with decency.

But for most everyone else on this thread knowing how dumb and corrupt Trump and MAGA are, could I hear your response on Biden's pre-emptive pardons for INNOCENT people prior to leaving office? Because in the final analysis, there can only be 2 possibilities for what just happened in full daylight:

1) Bidens pardons were for people who really were (and are) criminals. People who were family members and friends of his.
or
2) Our justice system is hopelessly incapable of providing non political and unbiased justice, and that Biden (who was our previous president) knows this first hand

NEITHER of these choices speaks well for our government. On Bidens recent actions alone, you can see outstanding evidence our government is truely as corrupt as MAGA accuses it of being.

It aint what you know that can get you into trouble. Its what you know for sure that just ain't so. Mark Twian.

RE: BOLDED SECTION - what you really should be saying is that under MAGA and Trump the US government is as truly corrupt as everyone accuses it of being. Those specific actions of Biden's occurred immediately before Trump and the GOP gained total power, so if government is corrupt it is the GOP government. I also have to repeat what I have said a couple of times before in other threads - even before this month the GOP was the government as they had control of the House since 2022.

 

[TSwizzle]

Are you OK? What's with this obsession with porn; I certainly didn't mention it.

I’m not obsessed with porn fella but I am sure it’s a fixation for the progressives. And no you didn’t mention porn but since you didn’t actually say what books were being banned I took a wild stab in the dark it would be something to do with porn.

You aren't familiar with Texas and Florida?! What does that mean, and how couldn't you be?

I don’t know the details of what goes on in those states is what I mean. I’m simply not up on their affairs to the extent you are.

If you aren't why did you claim porn books have been purged from kindergartens as if you had intimate knowledge of what is happening there? Could it be, shock, horror, that you made that up?

I didn’t make it up, I took a guess. Somewhat tongue in cheek. Lighten up fella.

 

[Swammerdami]

The hurt from unfunded programs needs to directly hit the lower income and working class voters that gave us Trump -- that may be the only way to rein in this man's worst and dumbest instincts.

This analysis of exit polls shows that the 2024 Harris-Trump split had almost ZERO correlation with income level. (And it was Harris who edged out Trump 50-46 among the under $30,000 group.)

Especially bizarre, or REVEALING, is the large number of CEOs, business owners and high-paid professionals among the J6 insurrectionists.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Meanwhile in far right - hyper antiseptic corporate governance... Trump is offering 8 month buy-out to two million people. Part of me likes the idea, in comical theory, of all two million people taking the deal.

"If you choose not to continue in your current role in the federal workforce, we thank you for your service to your country and you will be provided with a dignified, fair departure from the federal deferred resignation program," the memo reads.

Yeah, I'd want something clearly in writing before taking this Admin's 'word for it'.

Employees who accept the buyout should "promptly have their duties re-assigned or eliminated and be placed on paid administrative leave until the end of the deferred resignation period," Charles Ezell, acting director of the U.S. Office of Personnel Management, wrote in a memo to heads of departments and agencies.

Yes, once the person leaves, we don't need to worry about what they did. The task and necessity of that task to be completed will disappear.

The hurt from unfunded programs needs to directly hit the lower income and working class voters that gave us Trump -- that may be the only way to rein in this man's worst and dumbest instincts.

This analysis of exit polls shows that the 2024 Harris-Trump split had almost ZERO correlation with income level. (And it was Harris who edged out Trump 50-46 among the under $30,000 group.)

Especially bizarre, or REVEALING, is the large number of CEOs, business owners and high-paid professionals among the J6 insurrectionists.

The thing about J6 was the misconception it was a bunch of local yokels. It was a lot of white collar management types. Oddly, enough many who actually probably have worked hard and would be the first type of people Trump would screw over in a business deal. Kind of like, "I'm going to tariff Colombia 35% if they keep asking questions" or "I'm not paying this invoice. Maybe I'll give you 40% of it."

 

[ZiprHead]

Opinion | Republicans insist that Trump is hugely popular. His approval ratings say otherwise.

Trump was a historically unpopular president in his first term, and pre-inauguration polls show he’ll face the same widespread opposition in his second term.

www.yahoo.com

Republicans are more desperate than ever to convince the public that Trump is hugely popular — and that opposing him and his policies will be politically disastrous for Democrats. Nothing could be further from the truth. Trump was a historically unpopular president the first time around, and so far it looks as though he’ll face the same widespread public opposition in his second term.

Exaggerating the size of a president’s victory is not new. After George W. Bush won re-election in 2004, for instance, he bragged about spending his new “political capital.” But this time, the scale of the hyperbole is classically Trumpian. As much as Republicans want to throw around words such as “landslide” and “mandate,” 2024 was one of the closest elections in American history. Trump beat Vice President Kamala Harris in the popular vote by less than 1.5%; only one election in the last half-century (in 2000) was closer. And the razor-thin margins by which Republicans control both the House and the Senate testify to how closely the electorate is divided.

 

[Shadowy Man]

Meanwhile in far right - hyper antiseptic corporate governance... Trump is offering 8 month buy-out to two million people. Part of me likes the idea, in comical theory, of all two million people taking the deal.

so, another (after using military jets instead of chartered planes for the deportations) example of wasteful government spending; paying people to not work for eight months.

Is that what we should expect for “government efficiency”?

 

[Shadowy Man]

Meanwhile in far right - hyper antiseptic corporate governance... Trump is offering 8 month buy-out to two million people. Part of me likes the idea, in comical theory, of all two million people taking the deal.

"If you choose not to continue in your current role in the federal workforce, we thank you for your service to your country and you will be provided with a dignified, fair departure from the federal deferred resignation program," the memo reads.

Yeah, I'd want something clearly in writing before taking this Admin's 'word for it'.

I’m not sure I’d even trust anything “in writing” from this administration.