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Well... it's Trump... again. #47, here we go.

Trump just said he will sign an executive order to send migrants to Guantanamo.

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/nat...ay-detention-center-to-hold-migrants/6127064/

At the signing of the Laken Riley Act, President Donald Trump said Wednesday that he is directing the opening of a detention center at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, to hold up to 30,000 migrants who are living illegally in the United States and cannot be deported to their home countries.

Trump made the announcement just before he signed the immigrant detention measure, the first law of his new administration.

“We’re going to send them out to Guantanamo," the president said in the White House East Room. He did not elaborate.

The U.S. military base has been used to house detainees from the U.S. war on terrorism.
 
Trump just said he will sign an executive order to send migrants to Guantanamo.

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/nat...ay-detention-center-to-hold-migrants/6127064/

At the signing of the Laken Riley Act, President Donald Trump said Wednesday that he is directing the opening of a detention center at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, to hold up to 30,000 migrants who are living illegally in the United States and cannot be deported to their home countries.

Trump made the announcement just before he signed the immigrant detention measure, the first law of his new administration.

“We’re going to send them out to Guantanamo," the president said in the White House East Room. He did not elaborate.

The U.S. military base has been used to house detainees from the U.S. war on terrorism.
Yup the goal was never to get rid of immigrants, the goal is simply to inflict cruelty upon them. Now watch as conservatives gleefully support this as well as deny how terrible it will be.
 

In private industry I know that buyouts are extremely popular when the companies I have worked for want to reduce employee head count because the older people ready to retire anyway can get an extra bonus on the way out.
Do you know of any company that offered buyouts to all of its employees at once with the idea that that makes the company more efficient?

I think the closest example is Elon Musk with Twitter. And guess who this idea is coming from? They even used the same email subject line “fork in the road”.
This happens ALL THE TIME. At Chrysler they had a program to give you a free car if you decided to leave.

If a company is doing very poorly and they need less payroll this is done all the time. And our government is doing very very poorly from a financial standpoint at the moment.
Ok. I did find a reference to Chrysler's buyout program, as an example, but I contend there is a substantive difference between a single corporation that basically does a single thing (i.e., produce cars) offering this kind of buyout to restructure its product line and offering buyouts to the entire federal workforce simultaneously. They may be similar in kind but certainly not similar in degree.
 
Trump just said he will sign an executive order to send migrants to Guantanamo.

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/nat...ay-detention-center-to-hold-migrants/6127064/

At the signing of the Laken Riley Act, President Donald Trump said Wednesday that he is directing the opening of a detention center at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, to hold up to 30,000 migrants who are living illegally in the United States and cannot be deported to their home countries.

Trump made the announcement just before he signed the immigrant detention measure, the first law of his new administration.

“We’re going to send them out to Guantanamo," the president said in the White House East Room. He did not elaborate.

The U.S. military base has been used to house detainees from the U.S. war on terrorism.
Well, the first question always comes to mind with Trump is "Is that even legal?" Also, yes, it exists, but housing 30,000 people, food, water, etc... They aren't criminals. I would wonder if the UN steps in here. Not that they have authority, but this just feels very wrong.

Also, I'm just guessing, but I'm assuming that flying 30,000 people to Cuba isn't cheap and that it would cost more to fly one person twice, than once. Again, I'm just guessing here. Wouldn't people need to be flown via military off the island as we wouldn't have conventional travel options there.
 
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In private industry I know that buyouts are extremely popular when the companies I have worked for want to reduce employee head count because the older people ready to retire anyway can get an extra bonus on the way out.
Do you know of any company that offered buyouts to all of its employees at once with the idea that that makes the company more efficient?

I think the closest example is Elon Musk with Twitter. And guess who this idea is coming from? They even used the same email subject line “fork in the road”.
This happens ALL THE TIME. At Chrysler they had a program to give you a free car if you decided to leave.

If a company is doing very poorly and they need less payroll this is done all the time. And our government is doing very very poorly from a financial standpoint at the moment.
We've been through this - even getting rid of every federal employee would not save enough to eliminate the deficit.
 
Meanwhile in 9 days and it feels like a month already... President Trump rescinded his EO to pause "all" Federal assistance spending most likely because the Trump Administration has no idea what they are doing, and if headed to court, the Judge would have questions like "what specifically" are you pausing? "Uhhhhh..." wouldn't likely result in a finding in their favor.
article said:
"OMB memorandum M-25-13 is rescinded," the short memo from Matthew Vaeth, the acting director of the Office of Management and Budget, reads. "If you have questions about implementing the President's Executive Orders, please contact your agency General Counsel."
Yes, I have a question...
 
Meanwhile in 9 days and it feels like a month already... President Trump rescinded his EO to pause "all" Federal assistance spending most likely because the Trump Administration has no idea what they are doing, and if headed to court, the Judge would have questions like "what specifically" are you pausing? "Uhhhhh..." wouldn't likely result in a finding in their favor.
article said:
"OMB memorandum M-25-13 is rescinded," the short memo from Matthew Vaeth, the acting director of the Office of Management and Budget, reads. "If you have questions about implementing the President's Executive Orders, please contact your agency General Counsel."
Yes, I have a question...

Trump's and his goons may be Fascists but they sure are incompetent!
 
Trump just said he will sign an executive order to send migrants to Guantanamo.

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/nat...ay-detention-center-to-hold-migrants/6127064/

At the signing of the Laken Riley Act, President Donald Trump said Wednesday that he is directing the opening of a detention center at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, to hold up to 30,000 migrants who are living illegally in the United States and cannot be deported to their home countries.

Trump made the announcement just before he signed the immigrant detention measure, the first law of his new administration.

“We’re going to send them out to Guantanamo," the president said in the White House East Room. He did not elaborate.

The U.S. military base has been used to house detainees from the U.S. war on terrorism.
Well, the first question always comes to mind with Trump is "Is that even legal?" Also, yes, it exists, but housing 30,000 people, food, water, etc... They aren't criminals. I would wonder if the UN steps in here. Not that they have authority, but this just feels very wrong.

Also, I'm just guessing, but I'm assuming that flying 30,000 people to Cuba isn't cheap and that it would cost more to fly one person twice, than once. Again, I'm just guessing here. Wouldn't people need to be flown via military off the island as we wouldn't have conventional travel options there.
There are bound to be both logistical and capacity issues with Guantanamo; Hence the obvious next step, which is to build camps across the continental US to handle the overflow and to increase efficiency. Illegals can be moved to such camps by train, eliminating the expense of air travel. They could even save more money by using cattle trucks to move them.

Taking illegals to Guantanamo is just a preliminary solution. You can bet that the DOGE has plans for a solution to the illegals problem that is more final.

And please, these are "illegals" we are discussing. The use of emotive language like "people" just makes it sound as though concentrating them in camps is somehow wrong or evil.

And such emotive language foolishly implies that the administration should feel obliged to inefficiently check the actual lawful status of each and every one of them, rather than just rounding up everyone who looks too swarthy.

It's almost as though you don't approve of efficiency at all.
 
More stupid

"Kristi Noem halts funding for migrant nonprofits after learning they're not 'about Jesus'"

For who knows what reason, this idiot was under the impression that all NGOs were "about Jesus"

Now that she has found out that being an NGO doesn't necessarily have anything to do with spreading "Jesus" she's against them.

I think that their stupidity is all that can save us.

 
For who knows what reason, this idiot was under the impression that all NGOs were "about Jesus"
“All” is a mischaracterization of what was in that article. She listed that among multiple things that NGOs might do.

Not that I care for her but there’s enough reason to despise her and her ilk without making stuff up.
 
For who knows what reason, this idiot was under the impression that all NGOs were "about Jesus"
“All” is a mischaracterization of what was in that article. She listed that among multiple things that NGOs might do.

Not that I care for her but there’s enough reason to despise her and her ilk without making stuff up.
`You beat me to it. The headline doesn't match the article. Rawstory is not a good source for news.
 
Yes, I have a question...
Is it "What the actual fuck?"? I am guessing most of the questions people have will be variations on that one.
Just to be clear, how much of this was apathetic incompetence or are you actively trolling the United States?
I have always enjoyed actively trolling the United States, but in the last few weeks it has become impossible - nothing I can say could possibly be as enraging as the shit now emanating from the Oval Orifice.
 
For who knows what reason, this idiot was under the impression that all NGOs were "about Jesus"
“All” is a mischaracterization of what was in that article. She listed that among multiple things that NGOs might do.

Not that I care for her but there’s enough reason to despise her and her ilk without making stuff up.
To be fair, she seems to be making shit up herself.
Today we are announcing that we have stopped all grant funding that's being abused by NGOs to facilitate illegal immigration into this country," she told host Will Cain.
What the heck is she on about with this accusation?
 
Whether it's sending brown people to Gitmo or firing federal employees, the message is the point. The results are not. Just as long as Dickhead can say he is making other people's lives miserable, it'll make his faithful followers feel good. Doge isn't going to be able to do anything significant without congress and when the corporate farms need asses out in the onion fields, they will be there.
 
Most of the crazy stuff Trump does is infuriating, but some is just funny, just a remnider of how fundamentally stupid and corrupt this psychopathic grifter is.

Rachel Maddow gives some examples. There is no Trump family crest, so Trump just gave himself a crest (for the Davies family) that happened to be hanging on a wall at Mar-a-Lago when Trump purchased his palace. One change he made to the crest was to change the motto "Integritas" to "Trump." A few days ago Trump announced some sort of White House souvenir grift featuring this "Trump" crest.

Another stupidity is his rant against Spain for being one of the founding members of BRICS. But Spain has no interest in even joining BRICS. Trump was just guessing what the S in BRICS stands for and guessed wrong: It's South Africa.

Et cetera.

All in all, Trump is a fitting tribute to the stupidization of present-day America. Instead of a Hitler or Mussolini we get a moronic buffoon.
 
Musk’s comments that Germany should ‘move beyond’ Nazi guilt are dangerous, says Holocaust memorial chair

The chairman of the World Holocaust Remembrance Center has accused Elon Musk of insulting victims of Nazism after the billionaire told a German far-right political party that the country needed to “move beyond” the “guilt” of the past.

Musk made the comments in a surprise video address at an election campaign launch for the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) on Saturday.

“Children should not be guilty of the sins of their parents, let alone their great grandparents,” he said.

“There is too much focus on past guilt, and we need to move beyond that,” he added.

Musk’s remarks mirrored the AfD’s long-held position that Germany should stop atoning for crimes committed by the Nazis in the past.
Says the not-a-Nazi.
 
Tell that to all the private corporations who do this all the time
You understand private corporations aren't expected to provide basic services that working families desperately depend upon day in and day out right? What's with your hatred of the middle class?

Also, weren't you complaining a few days ago that that the government wasn't adequately prepared for the once in a lifetime fires in LA? So which is it - you either want "efficiency in government" (which everybody knows is code for the extreme bare minimum to get the job done and pray all the moving parts work 100% all the time), or you want government so flush with resources they can handle anything.

Stop talking out of both sides of your fucking mouth.
I've never worked for government but I have worked from some really big corporations over long periods of time. Generally what happens is that sales are really good so they hire a bunch of people for production who then hire a bunch of more administrators. And then over time those administrators get even more lazy and try to prove how hard they are working so they can get their headcount numbers increased even more. Everything works out well but all the administrators start slacking (because of all the headcount) but still making a lot of money. It should be noted that production headcount is more tied to the actual production but administration is not. Anyway for one reason or another sales will inevitably tank and the CEO starts closing plants and laying off people. When he starts closing the plants and laying off all the excess headcount I guarantee he is not thinking about quality or anything else except survival. Maybe he should be but he isn't. They just keep laying off until the line can't run any longer and then and only then will they start hiring back only what it takes to run again.

That is where our government is today. Too many administrators hired over the years, some of them just looking busy. Bloated salaries and defined pensions no longer competitive in private industry. Those are the dead weight Musk will be looking for. It isn't possible to get rid of government employees so the only practical approach Musk can do is to lay them all off en mass and then re-hire what it takes to run afterwords. It sounds stupid but that is exactly how the super huge corporations do it because it works and they can't get down to nitty gritty with such a huge personnel to do it more efficiently. First they bring in the buyouts and incentive's for the old people that want to retire anyway. Then they bring in the ax to get down to their goal.
 
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Tell that to all the private corporations who do this all the time
You understand private corporations aren't expected to provide basic services that working families desperately depend upon day in and day out right? What's with your hatred of the middle class?

Also, weren't you complaining a few days ago that that the government wasn't adequately prepared for the once in a lifetime fires in LA? So which is it - you either want "efficiency in government" (which everybody knows is code for the extreme bare minimum to get the job done and pray all the moving parts work 100% all the time), or you want government so flush with resources they can handle anything.

Stop talking out of both sides of your fucking mouth.
I've never worked for government but I have worked from some really big corporations over long periods of time. Generally what happens is that sales are really good so they hire a bunch of people for production who then hire a bunch of more administrators. And then over time those administrators get even more lazy and try to prove how hard they are working so they can get their headcount numbers increased even more. Everything works out well but all the administrators start slacking (because of all the headcount) but still making a lot of money. It should be noted that production headcount is more tied to the actual production but administration is not. Anyway for one reason or another sales will inevitably tank and the CEO starts closing plants and laying off people. When he starts closing the plants and laying off all the excess headcount I guarantee he is not thinking about quality or anything else except survival. Maybe he should be but he isn't. They just keep laying off until the line can't run any longer and then and only then will they start hiring back only what it takes to run again.

That is where our government is today.
Claim uncited. Are you suggesting that 900,000 Federal Bureaucrats are all upper management?
 
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