Wgat did Jesus look like?

[steve_bank]

ok. My error. One can be an atheist and believe in magic and levitation....

That's correct. One can be an atheist and believe in psychics, UFOs, ghosts, and other paranormal activity--none of those things entail theism.

Many atheists are naturalists (in the metaphysical sense) but not all of them are.

I know, it was a mistake on my prt. Being atheist does not preclude the supernatural, as a British poll showed. Being atheist does not mean rational or objective.

 

[Tigers!]

Well it does, actually. Is says that Yeshua's looks and skin color get in the way of his message - he can't overcome prejudice. Christians can "love Jesus" while simultaneous hating him, and loving the gospels doesn't correct that.

(I assume you mean It rather than Is at the start of the 2nd sentence?)What is this "it" of which you speak?
Jesus offered a way to overcome prejudice but it must be applied by us. It is not a magical formula. If someone wishes to be prejudiced then they will be. You are right that some "love Jesus" of their own creation and ignore what he taught.

Looks irrelevant to task? The white European image of Jesus is central to western Christianity. It wasn't until I took college philosophy of religion I learned St Augustine was North African. Christianity advanced in Africa before Europe.

St Augustine being north african merely reinforces that Christianity is not bound by colours, looks, geography etc. It's founder's description was never noted for the very reason that there could be no supposed superiority based upon skin colour, height, looks etc.

No, it doesn't really, since the Christians successfully hide it. Did you know?

If you mean that Christians allegedly hid that Augustine was Nth African i will need a citation for that please.

Looks like you edited while I was replying? ... (either that or I was thinking one thing and typing another)

Can't work out if you are referring to steve or myself.

At any rate, no the fact that they hid it was not to show equality. They hid books written by women, too.

Which books? Why did th0se books say?

 

[Tigers!]

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I do not care what his skin colour was.
Jesus' skin colour or looks are irrelevant to his task.

Do you care that various peoples create a Jesus image that does things other than his own look? I mean, I guess not, they even created a new name for him because his own name didn't allow them to OTHER the Jews and Semites so successfully.

I do care that they are creating an image other than his own. Something about the 2nd commandment comes to mind. What is this name of which you speak?

It's so interesting that this is accepted. Don't like the Jesus you were given and everything he stands for? Meh, create your own, plus idols and images to worship.

S'all good.

 

[steve_bank]

Two things you will never see. A black or American pope.

I grew up in the RCC. The only images were whites. Paintings, statues, and JC on the cross. I saw Michelangelo's Pieta on display at the NYC World's Fair. My grandmother a devout Catholic dragged me through the exhibit.

 

[steve_bank]

I grew up in the RCC. All images, paintings, statues, and crucifixes were white European.

I saw Michelangelo's Pieta on display at the 60s NYC World's Fair. My grandmother a devout Catholic dragged me through the exhibit.

American protestants are white Eurocentric even knowing where the religion came from.

 

[Opoponax]

I do care that they are creating an image other than his own. Something about the 2nd commandment comes to mind.

Then what is God's rightful image? My guess is that there isn't one, as has been shown by the myriad different depictions of the Abrahamic gods. And it's not like the 2nd commandment is so narrowly interpreted that one can say with any precision what it means. To Muslims, it's strict language. To others, it means different things.

Whatever the case, ambiguity in a legal writing is construed against the drafter. Therefore, since the 10 Commandments are legalistic in nature, and since the writing is clearly ambiguous, it doesn't hold any weight. And to think that the Muslims could've had an entire history of their own artwork depicting their god(s) this whole time.

Sad!

 

[Politesse]

Two things you will never see. A black or American pope.

Boy are you behind on the news!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Francis

 

[steve_bank]

Two things you will never see. A black or American pope.

Boy are you behind on the news!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Francis

I meant as in from USA.