George S
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Tell me how an arrow can reach its target. It goes halfway there, halfway there again, and again and again forever, never quite reaching it. Each halfway point is a unique moment. The infinite sum is the distance.
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Tell me how an arrow can reach its target. It goes halfway there, halfway there again, and again and again forever, never quite reaching it. Each halfway point is a unique moment. The infinite sum is the distance.
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Obviously after a while you are not making meaningful divisions.
If some moment is divided and it results in two "moments" exactly like the first moment then you are not really dividing anymore.
That moment is indivisible.
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If they have 0 dimension in width, then the rate that they pass could be at an infinitely fast rate.
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I asked for no nonsense about anything with no dimensions.
When you use imaginary entities you can have different kinds of infinities and you can have infinities that appear to be realized (they never really are, their total elements can never be expressed).
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So you have developed your own unique mathematics, that bears only a passing resemblance to actual mathematics; and using this unique mathematics, you can now prove things that are observably untrue.
Why you bothered to do this, and why you expect anyone else to join you in your folly, I suspect will require an infinite amount of time to determine.
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How can it not have? It's had an infinite amount of time to do so; so it cannot be finite, or it would have run out before it got here.
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At any moment the past is static and unchanging. It is not increasing or growing. It's boundaries are fixed.
An infinite pile of bricks has no fixed boundary. An infinite amount of anything real has no boundary.
Infinite time can have no boundary. It cannot be static and unchanging.
As the past at any moment always is.
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You really believe this crap, don't you?
You actually imagine that this is 'logic'.
It's like watching Ralph Wiggum explain how to do brain surgery.
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Yes you have your little emojis.
No ideas.
You think that infinite time is an amount of time that only needs infinite time and it can pass.
Very stupid.
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Yes you have your little emojis.
No ideas.
You think that infinite time is an amount of time that only needs infinite time and it can pass.
Very stupid.
Why, how much time does infinite time need to pass, if not an infinite amount?
If the amount of time that passes in infinite time is not infinite, then how much is it?
You should seek professional help - either from a mathematician or a psychiatrist. Maybe both.
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You have no answer to any of this. Too stupid to know you are long done.
At any moment the past is static and unchanging.
It could not have been infinite.
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It is time that can NEVER pass. It is time that goes on and on. It is one day then another day then another, forever.
It cannot be like the past is at any moment, static and unchanging.
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So do you imagine that the natural numbers are somehow dynamic; or that they are finite?
Or does your "logic" simply declare that the rules are different for time because you need them to be?
Or have you just not thought it through at all, and hoped that it wasn't obvious to anyone else that you are deeply, deeply wrong?
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If there is dimension between two points separated, is there a dimension between the two closest possible points?
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No, it's not; that's why we call it 'the past'
Yes. And it's always been that many days, at any given point.
Why not? How is 'always been infinite' anything other than static and unchanging?
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Do you think somebody could count ALL the natural numbers before some moment in time?
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No - infinite means 'uncountable'.
Do you think that numbers don't exist unless someone counts up to them?
Who do you think was the unsung hero who counted up to a hundred and fifty billion? He must have counted very fast; most people don't live more than about three billion seconds.
Or do you think that 150,000,000,000 doesn't exist because nobody has counted up to it?
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Infinite integers means integers without a final integer.
You cannot complete the count before any moment in time. You cannot complete the count EVER.
If you can't see how this means infinite moments in time could not have passed before any moment you are beyond hope.