What is a Social Justice Warrior?

[GenesisNemesis]

to the point that they are in panic over him having won the party nomination.

If he won the nomination, doesn't that mean he was supported by enough people to win the nomination? I.e., a lot of people?

 

[Angry Floof]

No, I wasn't talking about this one, but I knew you wouldn't sit through that. I should have put money on it.

I did watch it the first time I came across it. You are not the first to post it here. I stand by what I wrote above about it. It is an attempt to dismiss all allegations of "PC" as mere excuses for bigotry, which is a blanket refusal to listen to people and a branding of them as bigots.... which isn't very liberal (in the classic sense).

Triumph the insult comic dog is pretty funny yes. And yes, Trump supporters are crazy full of hate. This isn't news. Your claim that it represents the norm on the right is a big claim... and I think it is refuted by the throngs of conservatives who reject Trump, including many of the leaders of his own party, to the point that they are in panic over him having won the party nomination.

And son long as we're looking at this dog's vids, here's one on the PC ridiculouslness and regressive left, etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j556MWGVVqI

They've making fun of both extremes.

I'm aware of what is called the regressive left. But no one you can put into that category is seeking to eliminate any other group. They're naive - no, 'stupid' is more like it - to not understand that the right wing authoritarian ideological disease is as inherent to Islam as it is Christianity, but you won't find them supporting inhumane or degrading treatment of those of us (like me, or like Sam Harris) that they call bigots.

RWAs don't just call people names. They suck up to whoever they believe will protect them from the Mexican, black, Muslim, and liberal monster cartoon characters in their heads, and they will go along with all manner of horrific punishments of their fellow human beings without batting an eye.

This is covered in the research literature and the comic dog video just happens to be an excellent real life demonstration.

Instead of tap dancing around the RWA phenomenon and trying to pretend it's not a serious problem, how about encouraging your fellow conservatives to take responsibility for handing their conscience over to a morally bereft clown before the worst of history repeats itself yet again?

They are not stupid people or bad people by any means. They are just good humans who have been easily manipulated in the critical thinking vacuum created by inhumane, stunted ideology within an apathetic culture. Those otherwise good people are, as a group, very dangerous people, and they have no tools or support or information to help them to see the world with better eyes.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

I'd like to think that I'm against authoriatarism and groupthink, but now that Jon Stewart has retired, there's really no one to tell me what my position is.

 

[Jolly_Penguin]

I'm aware of what is called the regressive left. But no one you can put into that category is seeking to eliminate any other group. They're naive - no, 'stupid' is more like it

True. They are not looking to execute anyone or deport anyone (yet). They simply seek to shut down conversation and fire university professors, and to rage against anyone who disagrees with them. It is less of a danger, yes, but it isn't so different.

Instead of tap dancing around the RWA phenomenon and trying to pretend it's not a serious problem, how about encouraging your fellow conservatives to take responsibility for handing their conscience over to a morally bereft clown before the worst of history repeats itself yet again?

First, I'm not conservative. I voted Green in the last Canadian election and would have voted Sanders had I been able. I'm indeed more liberal than you are most likely. I'm an actual liberal, for free speech, universal healthcare (single payer) and universal basic income, etc. But you presume I'm what I am not because I can see issues on both sides.

Second, what you quoted of me wasn't about RWA... you seem to want to turn this thread into that topic in a derail. This was about Social Justice Warriors (usually seen as left wing).

Third, I haven't tap danced around anything about RWA. I have acknowledged that it is an issue, and even mentioned that I read a research paper about it. Please don't turn into another laughing dog. Please actually read what people write and address them on their actual points, and try not to assume that people are something they are not.

 

[Jolly_Penguin]

Watched your video Floof. Its hilarious. And funnier still that you actually think these people are representative of like half of your country? Americans are THIS stupid? No. Conservative American's aren't either. This is an extreme subset and clips selected from them, and it isn't even clear they are taking this seriously. Funny stuff though.

 

[Angry Floof]

Jolly, why don't you go back and read? Our exchange started when you responded to my post with my response to some of the comments here about "SWJ," and if I am off topic then so are you. And you argued with the idea of RWAs, and you tried to equate the "regressive left" with RWAs, both of which reflect either stupidity or your own unwillingness to read. But don't let that stop you from trying to change the subject.

Don't bother to reply. I'm done entertaining you.

 

[Jolly_Penguin]

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[thebeave]

Welp, the social justice warriors are at it again. This time, its Ellen DeGeneres who's the Racist-of-the-Day:

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/08/ellen-degeneres-usain-bolt-racism-tweet-meme-picture



Maybe it would be best if we just didn't mix the races in photos or videos. You know, separate but equal. Mixing races causes too much butthurt.

 

[Trausti]

This is a social justice warrior:

 

[laughing dog]

Are conservatives really this irony-impaired?

 

[AthenaAwakened]

Are conservatives really this irony-impaired?

Yes

 

[thebeave]

And just when you thought SJW insanity couldn't get any worse, I present to you, Annaliese Nielson. This is fucking priceless:

http://www.dailywire.com/news/8719/watch-sjw-woman-berate-lyft-driver-over-his-chase-stephens

Rebel Media commentator Lauren Southern uploaded a video she was anonymously sent showing an insane Social Justice Warrior (redundant) laying into her driver for having a classic dashboard hoola girl displayed in his car.

The "vocal-fried" SJW in question is a woman named Annaliese Nielsen, the founder of "Girls Night In," a secretive and selective women's community which she described to ABC News as an exclusive online sorority. Apparently these women enjoy going out, having a few cocktails, and then hunting for males who will undoubtedly offend them in some SJW rage-inducing way.

In the video (below), which she recorded herself, Nielson begins her self-righteous rant on the evils of hoola girl knickknacks by telling the driver, "You thought that was adorable? You didn't think about the pillaging of the like, continent of Hawaii?"

It only get's more idiotic from there:

 

[bigfield]

The 'continent of Hawaii' was pillaged so brutally that the pillagers only left a few little islands behind.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

The 'continent of Hawaii' was pillaged so brutally that the pillagers only left a few little islands behind.

Not only that, but they made off with some of their alphabet!

 

[dismal]

And just when you thought SJW insanity couldn't get any worse, I present to you, Annaliese Nielson. This is fucking priceless:

http://www.dailywire.com/news/8719/watch-sjw-woman-berate-lyft-driver-over-his-chase-stephens

Rebel Media commentator Lauren Southern uploaded a video she was anonymously sent showing an insane Social Justice Warrior (redundant) laying into her driver for having a classic dashboard hoola girl displayed in his car.

The "vocal-fried" SJW in question is a woman named Annaliese Nielsen, the founder of "Girls Night In," a secretive and selective women's community which she described to ABC News as an exclusive online sorority. Apparently these women enjoy going out, having a few cocktails, and then hunting for males who will undoubtedly offend them in some SJW rage-inducing way.

In the video (below), which she recorded herself, Nielson begins her self-righteous rant on the evils of hoola girl knickknacks by telling the driver, "You thought that was adorable? You didn't think about the pillaging of the like, continent of Hawaii?"

It only get's more idiotic from there:

This needed a trigger warning.

Incredibly annoying person inside.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMT3vuSQk3g

 

[Malintent]

The term is intended as mockery, not to equate them with people who are trying to address actual injustices.

I also thought this an obviously ironic term.

Both SJW and "Political Correct" have real legit meanings with real legit cases. Both are taken too far by some conservatives, and so both are dismissed by some liberals as masks for conservative hate speech, etc. Perhaps Americans are too blinded by extreme political polarization to see this?

Yes, perhaps.. polarization is definitely an insidious thing that I have been seeing quite a bit more of lately... and speaks greatly to the SJW "problem".
I have been noticing it a lot here on this board more than ever.. people are far quicker to take a comment out of context (or just ignore context) and cast it in a polarized light. Like if you say, "I think this guy was wrong in this case", you more often than before get a response, "how can you say everyone is always wrong about these things, you just [hate, prejudice about, don't understand] X people".

 

[Jolly_Penguin]

I also thought this an obviously ironic term.

Both SJW and "Political Correct" have real legit meanings with real legit cases. Both are taken too far by some conservatives, and so both are dismissed by some liberals as masks for conservative hate speech, etc. Perhaps Americans are too blinded by extreme political polarization to see this?

Yes, perhaps.. polarization is definitely an insidious thing that I have been seeing quite a bit more of lately... and speaks greatly to the SJW "problem".
I have been noticing it a lot here on this board more than ever.. people are far quicker to take a comment out of context (or just ignore context) and cast it in a polarized light. Like if you say, "I think this guy was wrong in this case", you more often than before get a response, "how can you say everyone is always wrong about these things, you just [hate, prejudice about, don't understand] X people".

Indeed. I find that no matter what you write to some folks here, you get some polarized response back, and sometimes they will even tell you what they insist you are thinking or saying, instead of asking for clarification. And often it is hard to believe that they are doing this out of mistake or confusion. It often looks deliberate. Not unique to here by any means, but far more prevalent here than it was years ago.

 

[Elixir]

I find that no matter what you write to some folks here, you get some polarized response back, and sometimes they will even tell you what they insist you are thinking or saying, instead of asking for clarification. And often it is hard to believe that they are doing this out of mistake or confusion. It often looks deliberate. Not unique to here by any means, but far more prevalent here than it was years ago.

Too many antisocial justice warriors.

 

[Toni]

No Anita Sarkeesian has been invited to speak before the UN. And she was hired by Twitter to censor people.

And of course, as long as someone wants to consider any argument they want to belittle (such as how women are portrayed in the media) as "ridiculous", the label SJW goes a long way.

Leftists have no problem tossing out labels of those they want to belittle. And since you think how people are portrayed in media is so important would you like to discuss how men are belittled?

You have a point--plus there are just so many more men represented in the media that naturally, they are represented more unfairly. It's not fair! It's time to put more women in movies and in TV, in prominent roles. At least 50/50 so that women can endure the same number of negative stereotypes. Start casting them as something other than mothers, prostitutes and/or rape victims: let them be ridiculed as doctors, lawyers, CEOs, superheroes an all the rest.

 

[arkirk]

There are no Social Justice Warriors who are political conservatives who in reality are enemies of social justice. The reason this is so is because they perceive their well being as dependent on suppression of the wills of "lesser persons." Their arguments always revolve around the laziness, the lack of skill, the lack of intellect of these undeserving lesser persons. Their arguments define a set of conditions that must be met by a person before he can be granted human rights. They frequently concern themselves with defining the lesser people as somewhat less than human and unworthy of humane consideration. We call this dehumanization. It need not be on account of race, though it very often is. I personally think political conservatives are actually not in any way conservative when it comes to conserving the ecosystem. They generally are wastrels who waste environment and society in just about equal measure. I don't have a problem with calling these people out.

I don't find anything wrong with trying to help the least among us. Conservatives hate these people when usually it is only a matter of circumstances, frequently beyond their control. Social Justice Warriors are people who have decided they know their enemies and attack them. It is only natural that political conservatives (their actual enemies) will do anything to dehumanize, demonize and disenfranchise them. SJW is just a bullshit idea period.