"White Supremacist" charged with Portland arson

[Derec]

I am being told (including, inexplicably by Loren Pechtel) that all the violence during #BLM protests must be by white supremacist types and is not done by #BLM/Antifa and similar leftist groups.

Well, they charged one of those "white supremacists", a young man named Desmond David-Pitts, with arson against East Precinct police station in Seattle.

Alaska native suspect in SPD East Precinct arson case to be charged with federal crimes

A 19-year-old Anchorage, Alaska man is expected to face federal arson charges for allegedly setting a fire outside the walls of the Seattle police East Precinct building Monday night.
King Co. prosecutors were planning to file charges on Desmond David-Pitts on Wednesday, but federal authorities informed the court they would charge David-Pitts in U.S District Court Thursday
David-Pitts has been a well-known outspoken protester in Alaska for months, after an Anchorage police officer shot and killed his younger brother, 16-year-old Daelyn Polu, in February.

And here I thought that protesters and rioters/looters/arsonists were two separate and distinct groups with no overlaps. I guess not ...

By the way, this is him.

From this article:
Anchorage man whose brother was killed in a police shooting faces federal arson charges linked to fire at Seattle police building

A 19-year-old Anchorage resident whose younger brother died in a shooting by police in February now faces a federal arson charge for setting a fire outside a Seattle police station with officers inside.

Desmond David-Pitts was arrested early Tuesday morning in Seattle during protests over Sunday’s police shooting that paralyzed Wisconsin resident Jacob Blake. Police broke up a crowd of protesters in the Capitol Hill area, the Seattle Times reported. Some climbed over a chain-link fence and set a fire next to the building, the Seattle Police Department said in an online post. “Individuals also placed quick-drying cement in exterior precinct door locks.”
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David-Pitts admitted he started the fire after he told police he arrived in Seattle three days earlier to participate in the ongoing protests, according to the complaint. Surveillance video showed him piling trash against a door at the precinct, then lighting it on fire and adding more trash. He was also seen communicating with two other groups of protesters, one that tried to barricade a door and the other that broke through a chain-link fence and started another fire.
“He stated that as the protest went on, ’My stupid ass got angry. So that’s exactly why I was acting the way I did. I’m accountable,’” Collier wrote.

His brother tried to shoot a police officer while riding in a stolen car and was shot and killed instead.

David-Pitts participated in Black Lives Matter protests over the summer in Anchorage and Palmer. At an Anchorage event in June, he told the story of his brother, 16-year-old Lufilufilimalelei “Daelyn” Polu, who was shot and killed during a traffic stop near Merrill Field early the morning of Feb. 16. The officers said Polu fired on them before they used their weapons, and one of the officers was hit and injured.

He was also involved in a bizarre assault back in Alaska.

That [misdemeanor assault] plea deal stemmed from an incident in April 2019 near East Ninth Avenue and Karluk Street, according to a probable cause statement municipal prosecutors filed with charging documents. A male driver saw a van stopped at an intersection and honked as he passed, according to the statement. A woman started kicking his vehicle and David-Pitts jumped onto the hood and pulled on the wiper blades. The woman opened the passenger door, the male driver told police, and he drove off with David-Pitts on the hood, though he fell off. David-Pitts was described as combative during his arrest.

 

[Trausti]

The White Supremacists also support Diversity, Inclusion, and Equity. Or, DIE.

 

[Elixir]

I am being told (including, inexplicably by Loren Pechtel) that all the violence during #BLM protests must be by white supremacist types

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I don't believe that is true. If it is, and you can show where Loren or anyone else said that, I apologize. But meanwhile it sure looks like an "I'm not a Trumpsucker" reading what he wishes was written.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

I am being told (including, inexplicably by Loren Pechtel) that all the violence during #BLM protests must be by white supremacist types

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I don't believe that is true. If it is, and you can show where Loren or anyone else said that, I apologize. But meanwhile it sure looks like an "I'm not a Trumpsucker" reading what he wishes was written.

Seconded. What I've said is that most of the "BLM" violence is white supremacists trying to discredit BLM.

This case, however, is neither--this is a person with a personal beef with the police, race doesn't enter into it.

 

[ZiprHead]

I am being told (including, inexplicably by Loren Pechtel) that all the violence during #BLM protests must be by white supremacist types and is not done by #BLM/Antifa and similar leftist groups.

Well, they charged one of those "white supremacists", a young man named Desmond David-Pitts, with arson against East Precinct police station in Seattle.

Alaska native suspect in SPD East Precinct arson case to be charged with federal crimes



And here I thought that protesters and rioters/looters/arsonists were two separate and distinct groups with no overlaps. I guess not ...

By the way, this is him.
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From this article:
Anchorage man whose brother was killed in a police shooting faces federal arson charges linked to fire at Seattle police building



His brother tried to shoot a police officer while riding in a stolen car and was shot and killed instead.

David-Pitts participated in Black Lives Matter protests over the summer in Anchorage and Palmer. At an Anchorage event in June, he told the story of his brother, 16-year-old Lufilufilimalelei “Daelyn” Polu, who was shot and killed during a traffic stop near Merrill Field early the morning of Feb. 16. The officers said Polu fired on them before they used their weapons, and one of the officers was hit and injured.

He was also involved in a bizarre assault back in Alaska.

That [misdemeanor assault] plea deal stemmed from an incident in April 2019 near East Ninth Avenue and Karluk Street, according to a probable cause statement municipal prosecutors filed with charging documents. A male driver saw a van stopped at an intersection and honked as he passed, according to the statement. A woman started kicking his vehicle and David-Pitts jumped onto the hood and pulled on the wiper blades. The woman opened the passenger door, the male driver told police, and he drove off with David-Pitts on the hood, though he fell off. David-Pitts was described as combative during his arrest.

Sounds like a real bad hombre. Not like those nice boogaloo boys who killed the federal guard and a cop.

 

[Derec]

I don't believe that is true. If it is, and you can show where Loren or anyone else said that, I apologize.

Hmm, it seems his actual claim is that a large majority are false flag. Not that much difference though, since in both cases the aim is to exonerate #BLM and left wingers for rioting, looting etc.

 

[Derec]

Seconded. What I've said is that most of the "BLM" violence is white supremacists trying to discredit BLM.

But that is a ridiculous statement. I have seen only sporadic cases of white supremacists or right wingers engaging in rioting/looting etc. The umbrella man from Minneapolis is one. Which others?

Note that the perps being white does not mean they are "white supremacists trying to discredit BLM". There are plenty #BLMers, Antifas etc. who are white. And in a place like Portland for example, most of the perps will be white simply because of the demographics. So you need to know their ideology, not just their skin color. Take Natalie Wood. She torched that Wendy's, and she is white, but she did it to avenge her boyfriend, and not to discredit #BLM.

Or take the group that torched 3rd precinct in Minneapolis. Two white guys (Robinson and Wolfe), two black guys (Turner and Williams). Why do you believe the two white guys are not true believers and are just trying to make #BLM look bad?

This case, however, is neither--this is a person with a personal beef with the police,

I disagree that it is neither. Sure, he had a personal beef with police, but he also had a history of genuinely participating in #BLM protests before engaging in arson. So he is a case of a real #BLM protester setting a building on fire. His personal reason for joining #BLM does not change his sincerity.

race doesn't enter into it.

I agree. Race doesn't enter into none of these cases. Plenty of #BLMers are white. Just because somebody white is rioting or looting or setting shit on fire does not mean they are not genuine #BLM or Antifa supporters.

 

[Derec]

Sounds like a real bad hombre. Not like those nice boogaloo boys who killed the federal guard and a cop.

Got a link for that? In any case, I am not a Boogaloo Boy supporter, I am just saying they should not be used as a boogeyman to excuse #BLMers and Antifas rioting and looting. Especially when #BLM leadership endorses looting.

 

[ZiprHead]

Sounds like a real bad hombre. Not like those nice boogaloo boys who killed the federal guard and a cop.

Got a link for that? In any case, I am not a Boogaloo Boy supporter, I am just saying they should not be used as a boogeyman to excuse #BLMers and Antifas rioting and looting. Especially when #BLM leadership endorses looting.

Alleged 'Boogaloo' extremist charged in killing of federal officer during George Floyd protest

An Air Force sergeant who was arrested in the fatal ambush of a Santa Cruz County deputy was charged Tuesday in connection with the killing of a federal security officer during George Floyd protests in Oakland last month, authorities said.

Staff Sgt. Steven Carrillo, 32, was charged with murder and attempted murder in the killing of federal officer Dave Patrick Underwood, 53.

Underwood was one of two officers who were shot May 29 while guarding the Ronald V. Dellums Federal Building. The other officer was critically wounded in the drive-by attack. Both were members of Homeland Security's Federal Protective Service.

Authorities said Carrillo and a second man traveled to Oakland with the intent to kill police and believed the large demonstrations spurred by the death of Floyd in Minneapolis — which they were not a part of — would help them get away it.

Carrillo ambushed the officers, killing Santa Cruz County Sgt. Damon Gutzwiller and critically injuring another deputy, according to authorities.

Unsurprising you didn't know anything about it since you primarily look for black criminals to berate.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

But that is a ridiculous statement. I have seen only sporadic cases of white supremacists or right wingers engaging in rioting/looting etc. The umbrella man from Minneapolis is one. Which others?

Note that the perps being white does not mean they are "white supremacists trying to discredit BLM". There are plenty #BLMers, Antifas etc. who are white. And in a place like Portland for example, most of the perps will be white simply because of the demographics. So you need to know their ideology, not just their skin color. Take Natalie Wood. She torched that Wendy's, and she is white, but she did it to avenge her boyfriend, and not to discredit #BLM.

We have a lot of reports from the protesters that it's outsiders committing the violence.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Sounds like a real bad hombre. Not like those nice boogaloo boys who killed the federal guard and a cop.

Got a link for that? In any case, I am not a Boogaloo Boy supporter, I am just saying they should not be used as a boogeyman to excuse #BLMers and Antifas rioting and looting. Especially when #BLM leadership endorses looting.

Why are you so determined it's BLM behind the violence? Just because Faux says so doesn't make it so.

 

[Derec]

Why are you so determined it's BLM behind the violence?

Why are you so determined to give #BLM and the Antifas a pass?
#BLM has this underserved halo because of their name and because of political correctness that leads many people, including you, to view them through rose-colored glasses.

Just because Faux says so doesn't make it so.

I don't even watch Fox, but just because they say something does not make the opposite so either.

 

[Derec]

We have a lot of reports from the protesters that it's outsiders committing the violence.

Yes, I have seen a lot of reports that it's outsiders too. But that does not mean they are right-wingers or that they are trying to make #BLM look bad. It just means from outside that city. Leftists can travel too. Remember the thousands of people (including AOC) who traveled thousands of miles just to protest a pipeline? They were outsiders too.

 

[Derec]

Unsurprising you didn't know anything about it since you primarily look for black criminals to berate.

Bullshit. I cannot know every single case that you obliquely reference.
In any case, Steven Carillo should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law for his crime. Unlike some people on here, I do not try to give a pass to certain criminals because of their race and/or politics.

I also read up on Carillo. It seems that he suffered some mental health issues since his wife's suicide.

 

[Derec]

Loren, do you think these people are "white supremacists" too?

Jacob Blake protests: Rocks, bottles thrown at Oakland police officers causing injuries

Why is it so hard for you to admit that many #BLMers and other leftists (such as Antifas) are violent?

 

[Trausti]

So Antifa/BLM surrounded a guy with a Patriot Prayer hat in Portland and shot him in cold blood last night. Then the mob cheered his death. Yet, as I understand from this forum the Left is humane, or something. No way I’m voting Democrat this November.

 

[Toni]

So Antifa/BLM surrounded a guy with a Patriot Prayer hat in Portland and shot him in cold blood last night. Then the mob cheered his death. Yet, as I understand from this forum the Left is humane, or something. No way I’m voting Democrat this November.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/30/us/portland-trump-rally-shooting.html

So a group of vet fine Trump supporters formed a caravan of pick ups and began driving down the streets of Porand, firing paintballs and other objects into crowds of peaceful protestors. One of the Trump supporters (who certainly could not have been a white supremacist! Of course not!) was shot. I haven’t yet found an article giving details of the shooting.

No one expected that you would vote Democrat this fall. No way anyone would believe that you’d consider that such deliberate provocations as these truck caravans Firing paintballs into crowds was designed to provoke such a reaction from fence sitters such as yourself. Even if you don’t vote for Trump, any vote for someone other than Biden is a vote for Trump.

 

[Trausti]

So Antifa/BLM surrounded a guy with a Patriot Prayer hat in Portland and shot him in cold blood last night. Then the mob cheered his death. Yet, as I understand from this forum the Left is humane, or something. No way I’m voting Democrat this November.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/30/us/portland-trump-rally-shooting.html

So a group of vet fine Trump supporters formed a caravan of pick ups and began driving down the streets of Porand, firing paintballs and other objects into crowds of peaceful protestors. One of the Trump supporters (who certainly could not have been a white supremacist! Of course not!) was shot. I haven’t yet found an article giving details of the shooting.

No one expected that you would vote Democrat this fall. No way anyone would believe that you’d consider that such deliberate provocations as these truck caravans Firing paintballs into crowds was designed to provoke such a reaction from fence sitters such as yourself. Even if you don’t vote for Trump, any vote for someone other than Biden is a vote for Trump.

So you’re making apologies for the mob cheering the cold blooded killing of a man? Not really a surprise from you.

https://mobile.twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1299956667287703553

 

[Trausti]

Antifa/BLM went out hunting for someone to kill. Like the fascists they are. Toni approved.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=QcwcOA_ED8w

 

[Toni]

So Antifa/BLM surrounded a guy with a Patriot Prayer hat in Portland and shot him in cold blood last night. Then the mob cheered his death. Yet, as I understand from this forum the Left is humane, or something. No way I’m voting Democrat this November.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/30/us/portland-trump-rally-shooting.html

So a group of vet fine Trump supporters formed a caravan of pick ups and began driving down the streets of Porand, firing paintballs and other objects into crowds of peaceful protestors. One of the Trump supporters (who certainly could not have been a white supremacist! Of course not!) was shot. I haven’t yet found an article giving details of the shooting.

No one expected that you would vote Democrat this fall. No way anyone would believe that you’d consider that such deliberate provocations as these truck caravans Firing paintballs into crowds was designed to provoke such a reaction from fence sitters such as yourself. Even if you don’t vote for Trump, any vote for someone other than Biden is a vote for Trump.

So you’re making apologies for the mob cheering the cold blooded killing of a man? Not really a surprise from you.

https://mobile.twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1299956667287703553

How unsurprising that you are inventing my position.