Whiteness of groups should deprioritise them for COVID vaccine

[Metaphor]

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/05/health/covid-vaccine-first.html

Harald Schmidt, an expert in ethics and health policy at the University of Pennsylvania, said that it is reasonable to put essential workers ahead of older adults, given their risks, and that they are disproportionately minorities. “Older populations are whiter, ” Dr. Schmidt said. “Society is structured in a way that enables them to live longer. Instead of giving additional health benefits to those who already had more of them, we can start to level the playing field a bit.”

Marc Lipsitch, an infectious-disease epidemiologist at Harvard’s T.H. Chan School of Public Health, argued that teachers should not be included as essential workers, if a central goal of the committee is to reduce health inequities.

“Teachers have middle-class salaries, are very often white, and they have college degrees,” he said. “Of course they should be treated better, but they are not among the most mistreated of workers.”

The whiteness of these groups is so vexing. But I don't think the BIPOC who happen to be among the elderly or teachers should suffer because they are even more a minority in these groups than they are in the general population. I think what America should do is simply exclude white people from COVID vaccination, until every BIPOC has been vaccinated.

 

[Derec]

These self-hating white illiberals are really disgusting, but I expect the usual suspects (you know who you are) to be defending them very soon.

 

[Trausti]

Hispanics and Asians live longer than Whites. Women of all races lives longer than men.

 

[Derec]

Hispanics and Asians live longer than Whites. Women of all races lives longer than men.

Hispanics and women are oppressed as an article of faith. If you challenge it, you are a heretic to the new ersatz religion of identity politics.

 

[laughing dog]

People say stupid shit all the time. Now, if these views are seriously debated for policy, then I'd be worried. Since they are not, this is really another nothing burger.

 

[Derec]

People say stupid shit all the time.

These are not some random weirdos. They are prominent academics.

And these are racist proposals in policy. Arizona is including "Adults from racial and ethnic minority groups" in a higher priority group than white adults.
COVID-19 VACCINATION PLAN

 

[Metaphor]

People say stupid shit all the time. Now, if these views are seriously debated for policy, then I'd be worried. Since they are not, this is really another nothing burger.

Yes.

If they'd been tumblr nobodies, no doubt you'd have said 'irrelevant people say stupid shit all the time'.

But they're not irrelevant - they are professors at American universities who have been consulted for expert comment.

So the bar for laughing dog's concern has to be raised to 'seriously debated for policy', as if professors solicited for comment were squibs who never influence policy.

And no doubt, when it is 'seriously' debated for policy, laughing dog will raise his concern level to 'if this actually becomes policy, then it's time to be concerned'.

And by then it'll be too late.

 

[Angry Floof]

Yes, prevent all white people from getting the vaccine until all people of color are vaccinated.

Why not? It's not like such policies and attitudes have never existed where white people's interests were prioritized, often to the point of genocide. That's pretty much the substrate of white people history for fuck's sake.

Even if such a policy were to be implemented (it won't be, snowflakes, calm your tits), it wouldn't be the end of the world. It wouldn't be good health policy, of course, but beyond that, the only harm would be to white people's delicate self esteem.

 

[Metaphor]

Yes, prevent all white people from getting the vaccine until all people of color are vaccinated.

Why not? It's not like such policies and attitudes have never existed where white people's interests were prioritized, often to the point of genocide. That's pretty much the substrate of white people history for fuck's sake.

Even if such a policy were to be implemented (it won't be, snowflakes, calm your tits), it wouldn't be the end of the world. It wouldn't be good health policy, of course, but beyond that, the only harm would be to white people's delicate self esteem.

You never disappoint, AF.

 

[Angry Floof]

Yes, prevent all white people from getting the vaccine until all people of color are vaccinated.

Why not? It's not like such policies and attitudes have never existed where white people's interests were prioritized, often to the point of genocide. That's pretty much the substrate of white people history for fuck's sake.

Even if such a policy were to be implemented (it won't be, snowflakes, calm your tits), it wouldn't be the end of the world. It wouldn't be good health policy, of course, but beyond that, the only harm would be to white people's delicate self esteem.

You never disappoint, AF.

Neither do you.

 

[Metaphor]

Even if such a policy were to be implemented (it won't be, snowflakes, calm your tits), it wouldn't be the end of the world. It wouldn't be good health policy, of course, but beyond that, the only harm would be to white people's delicate self esteem.

I suppose some people dying when they otherwise wouldn't have doesn't amount to harm to those people.

 

[ideologyhunter]

I'm sort of off-white (gardening, you know.) Also, I have some sun damage on the back of my hands, which increases the tan. I look a little like Tecumseh in my 5th grade social studies book. Can I move to the front of the line? (Also I listen to Howlin' Wolf and can prove it.)

 

[Metaphor]

I'm sort of off-white (gardening, you know.) Also, I have some sun damage on the back of my hands, which increases the tan. I look a little like Tecumseh in my 5th grade social studies book. Can I move to the front of the line? (Also I listen to Howlin' Wolf and can prove it.)

It depends. Do you belong to some non-race group (e.g. a teacher, the elderly) that is more white than the American average? In that case, no.

 

[Angry Floof]

Even if such a policy were to be implemented (it won't be, snowflakes, calm your tits), it wouldn't be the end of the world. It wouldn't be good health policy, of course, but beyond that, the only harm would be to white people's delicate self esteem.

I suppose some people dying when they otherwise wouldn't have doesn't amount to harm to those people.

I suppose generation after generation, and still to this day, ignoring people of color dying (being killed, purposely made sick, having their cultures, traditions, and communities destroyed, stealing their children, etc.) when they otherwise wouldn't have doesn't amount to harm to those people.

It's astounding how much humanity and suffering right wing authoritarian followers can ignore in favor of their own narrow little self absorbed delusions.

Also, I did say it wouldn't be good health policy right there in the part you quoted. I guess I didn't spice it up with enough faux outrage for you to notice it.

 

[Metaphor]

I suppose generation after generation, and still to this day, ignoring people of color dying (being killed, purposely made sick, having their cultures, traditions, and communities destroyed, stealing their children, etc.) when they otherwise wouldn't have doesn't amount to harm to those people.

What a nasty piece of work you are to think such a thing.

Also, I did say it wouldn't be good health policy right there in the part you quoted. I guess I didn't spice it up with enough faux outrage for you to notice it.

I noticed it. I don't think it would be good policy either. But I happen to think it harms people to die when they otherwise wouldn't have. But you do you, boo.

 

[Angry Floof]

I suppose generation after generation, and still to this day, ignoring people of color dying (being killed, purposely made sick, having their cultures, traditions, and communities destroyed, stealing their children, etc.) when they otherwise wouldn't have doesn't amount to harm to those people.

What a nasty piece of work you are to think such a thing.

Really? *I'm* the nasty piece of work for pointing out white people's history of slaughter and abuse of people of color around the world for centuries while you whine that people are so unfair to white people? Really? I'm so terrible for making you feel bad for having to think about such things? I'm so sorry, white snowflake! So sorry I forgot that your oblivious white people's feelings are so precious that reminding you of atrocity is so much worse than genocide.

Also, I did say it wouldn't be good health policy right there in the part you quoted. I guess I didn't spice it up with enough faux outrage for you to notice it.

I noticed it. I don't think it would be good policy either. But I happen to think it harms people to die when they otherwise wouldn't have. But you do you, boo.

Now THAT is a hilarious piece of irony right there! It's like you're broadcasting a confession that you really don't give a flying shit about anyone dying except for white people. We see you, you nasty piece of [removed] work!

OK, so you're just gonna go off on making stuff up from here on out. Thanks for making that clear.

 

[Metaphor]

Really? *I'm* the nasty piece of work for pointing out white people's history of slaughter and abuse of people of color around the world for centuries while you whine that people are so unfair to white people? Really? I'm so terrible for making you feel bad for having to think about such things? I'm so sorry, white snowflake! So sorry I forgot that your oblivious white people's feelings are so precious that reminding you of atrocity is so much worse than genocide.

No. You are a nasty piece of work for pretending I think that doesn't harm people.

Now THAT is a hilarious piece of irony right there! It's like you're broadcasting a confession that you really don't give a flying shit about anyone dying except for white people. We see you, you nasty piece of [removed] work!

OK, so you're just gonna go off on making stuff up from here on out. Thanks for making that clear.

[removed]. Okay luv.

 

[Angry Floof]

Really? *I'm* the nasty piece of work for pointing out white people's history of slaughter and abuse of people of color around the world for centuries while you whine that people are so unfair to white people? Really? I'm so terrible for making you feel bad for having to think about such things? I'm so sorry, white snowflake! So sorry I forgot that your oblivious white people's feelings are so precious that reminding you of atrocity is so much worse than genocide.

No. You are a nasty piece of work for pretending I think that doesn't harm people.

Now THAT is a hilarious piece of irony right there! It's like you're broadcasting a confession that you really don't give a flying shit about anyone dying except for white people. We see you, you nasty piece of [removed] work!

OK, so you're just gonna go off on making stuff up from here on out. Thanks for making that clear.

[removed]. Okay luv.

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[ideologyhunter]

I'm sort of off-white (gardening, you know.) Also, I have some sun damage on the back of my hands, which increases the tan. I look a little like Tecumseh in my 5th grade social studies book. Can I move to the front of the line? (Also I listen to Howlin' Wolf and can prove it.)

It depends. Do you belong to some non-race group (e.g. a teacher, the elderly) that is more white than the American average? In that case, no.

Retired teacher, but again, Howlin' Wolf.

 

[Elixir]

The people who should be de-prioritized for vaccination are Republicans and Libberpublicans who voted for Trump.
It is a pity that they are intermingled with those who knew from the start that the Trump Junta would kill hundreds of thousands of us with their negligence.