Why is the Afterworld or Heaven(H), as described my most religions, so different from the Real World(RW)?

[Ramaraksha]

1 - RW-Here Life is not easy. No one gives us anything, nothing is Free.
H-Heaven is Given to the Favored, like in Corrupt, Dictator-led countries. Life is easy, everything is free!

2 - RW-Here we WORK for a living - to put food on the table, a roof over our heads, we PAY for what we eat, where we live. Once we become Adults, we are expected to stand on our own two feet, face the world on our own. And this law is not just for us but for ALL creatures on earth. In fact, we humans have it better than all other creatures on earth. Most animals get but a few months, maybe a year before the parents push them out of the nest, never to see them again

H-No one mentions any work being done in Heaven, no one even asks!
Everyone, it seems, expects God to be some sort of a Sugar Daddy & keep them in cozy comfort for eternity! They just get to sit and enjoy the good life shamelessly sponging off God!
Every time I have asked - "What does one DO in Heaven? DETAILS, please" - theists run away!
It is the asking for Details that gets them, they have no clue, but that IS how Fantasies, Ponzi-Schemes work.

3 - RW-Here we EARN what we desire, obtain - at least are expected to. We see videos of people, for example sports stars, proudly pointing to their trophies, their medals and saying, "Nothing was given to us, we Earned it!"
In the free world that we are fortunate to live in, it is a case of What-you-know, not Whom-you-know that is important.

H-But Heaven cannot be Earned, the only way in is to kiss the right butt, polish the right shoes.
Heaven as we know is GIVEN to the Favored! Atheists, Hindus, Buddhists are threatened with dire consequences, eternal torture in Hell because well, we are not kissing the right butt! Not polishing the right shoes
Heaven is the opposite of real life - Whom-you-know is more important than What-you-know.
I lied, it is not the opposite of real life, but the opposite of a morality based, ethical society that we all aspire to live in - in Corrupt, Dictator-led countries, Whom-you-know is the way to go, get ahead.

4 - RW-Here saying, "You got that Job or promotion not because of your qualifications, but because of your Relationship with the boss, the boss took a "liking" to you" - is an insult, fists will fly

H-But getting to Heaven is a matter of having the "right" Relationship - Works don't matter.
What we perceive as an insult, the wrong way to do things is the NORM in Religion

5 - RW-ALL of us, esp Minorities(I am one myself), want to live in INCLUSIVE societies. We want to be judged based on who we are as human beings and not for our skin color, gender, age, ethnicity or religion

H-But Heaven is EXCLUSIVE, SEGREGATED by Religion! People judged, not for the human beings they are, but for their beliefs, religion, or their lack of them.

The answer is clear - the lack of Details and all the above points make it clear - Heaven is a Fantasy, it is not Real
Only this world is Real
What is frightening to me is to understand that even the best of minds drool over the cheap promises of Religions, fully knowing, that they have zero evidence!
"Journalists" ask softball questions - questions they KNOW that Religious heads will love to answer
1 - Will we be happy in Heaven?
2 - How Wonderful will Heaven be? What it is like?
3 - Will we see all our loved ones again in Heaven?
Cheap questions that have been asked a million times over and yet every time a "Journalist" interviews a Religious head, they stick to these 3 or 4 questions never venturing into dangerous territory like - Do you have any evidence? What does one DO in Heaven? Can you describe a DAY? ONE DAY in Detail?
Why is God so hung up on belief, religion? Does he not care for us as human beings?
Makes sense if he is a King, Dictator like Putin!
He created this huge universe, with so many life forms - we work hard here, struggle to make a living, the joys, the celebrations, the pain, the suffering and once we die, the few, the favored will get to sit and enjoy the easy good life forever?
Billions of people in an idle, lazy, useless and pointless existence for eternity?
How does that make any sense?
I have a lot more questions but I can't get ANY of the above published anywhere!
If anyone has any ideas or suggestions of any media that would welcome my views, please let me know

 

[ideologyhunter]

Some stand up comic has a jihadist terrorist getting to Muslim heaven and finding out that the selling specs were wrong -- it isn't 72 virgins per guy, it's one 72-year-old virgin.
Just look at the Christians who have a self-crafted afterlife, where their cherished pets are admitted. Also, if you've lost a child, you expect to greet them in heaven and find that they are still young. So why wouldn't your parents, who may have died in the final stages of dementia and organ failure, be resurrected as gasping, cratered-out invalids?
I am willing to bet that if there is this big celestial theme park waiting for our Beloved Community, that there are going to have to be strict zoning laws and security forces to avoid the problems of crowds (not to mention Karens -- have you ever talked with a food server who has to deal with the Christian crowd that eats together after church? Worst of the worst.)
Reasons you want to reconsider booking with Heavenly Rentals, Inc.:
> Really bad iphone reception. You think it's bad here? Try anchoring phone towers to cloud banks.
> Sewage overload in general. Some Christians think there's food in heaven, because it's a place of endless delights, and because Jesus sat and ate a meal after his resurrection. Fine, so -- doesn't that mean toilets, septic tanks, plumbing for every believer who made it in the gates, in all history since the First Century?
> I was going to leave sexuality out of this, since I think there's a Bible verse about no one marrying in heaven, but realistically, hookups aren't marriage. George Burns: "It's not premarital sex if you have no intention of getting married."
> Fleas. Don't tell me that all those ascetics and the vow-of-poverty types aren't crawling with fleas, chiggers, and bedbugs. Unless you're going to assure me that there are angel attendants who do full body searches and flea dips, I'm assuming the place is, in Newman's phrase (the mailman, not the theologian), "rife with fleas."
> The music. Most of my favorite musicians wouldn't, to put it mildly, have their validated pass to get in. An eternity of Anita Bryant and Jimmy Swaggart singing hymns, anyone?
> The possibility that Trump will con his way in, and the strong likelihood that Oprah will get in.
> Endless family reunion, of the true believers, anyway. Does this mean that if I accept Christian doctrine, I'd have to be with my Aunt Jessie again, for eternity? I couldn't stand her fat ass at a once-a-year Christmas dinner.
> Endless adoration of Jesus and his dad. I mean, come on. Do even the Christians do that, in increments longer than 45 seconds, down here?

 

[Ramaraksha]

Some stand up comic has a jihadist terrorist getting to Muslim heaven and finding out that the selling specs were wrong -- it isn't 72 virgins per guy, it's one 72-year-old virgin.
Just look at the Christians who have a self-crafted afterlife, where their cherished pets are admitted. Also, if you've lost a child, you expect to greet them in heaven and find that they are still young. So why wouldn't your parents, who may have died in the final stages of dementia and organ failure, be resurrected as gasping, cratered-out invalids?
I am willing to bet that if there is this big celestial theme park waiting for our Beloved Community, that there are going to have to be strict zoning laws and security forces to avoid the problems of crowds (not to mention Karens -- have you ever talked with a food server who has to deal with the Christian crowd that eats together after church? Worst of the worst.)
Reasons you want to reconsider booking with Heavenly Rentals, Inc.:
> Really bad iphone reception. You think it's bad here? Try anchoring phone towers to cloud banks.
> Sewage overload in general. Some Christians think there's food in heaven, because it's a place of endless delights, and because Jesus sat and ate a meal after his resurrection. Fine, so -- doesn't that mean toilets, septic tanks, plumbing for every believer who made it in the gates, in all history since the First Century?
> I was going to leave sexuality out of this, since I think there's a Bible verse about no one marrying in heaven, but realistically, hookups aren't marriage. George Burns: "It's not premarital sex if you have no intention of getting married."
> Fleas. Don't tell me that all those ascetics and the vow-of-poverty types aren't crawling with fleas, chiggers, and bedbugs. Unless you're going to assure me that there are angel attendants who do full body searches and flea dips, I'm assuming the place is, in Newman's phrase (the mailman, not the theologian), "rife with fleas."
> The music. Most of my favorite musicians wouldn't, to put it mildly, have their validated pass to get in. An eternity of Anita Bryant and Jimmy Swaggart singing hymns, anyone?
> The possibility that Trump will con his way in, and the strong likelihood that Oprah will get in.
> Endless family reunion, of the true believers, anyway. Does this mean that if I accept Christian doctrine, I'd have to be with my Aunt Jessie again, for eternity? I couldn't stand her fat ass at a once-a-year Christmas dinner.
> Endless adoration of Jesus and his dad. I mean, come on. Do even the Christians do that, in increments longer than 45 seconds, down here?

I agree with you but not in favor of the general tone of your post - you are mocking theists and I don't think we will get far with this line of attack. I agree the whole concept of Heaven and the afterlife is ridiculous and frankly frightening to think even the best of minds, most moral of minds subscribe to a Segregated, exclusive Heaven where billions sit around for eternity singing praises of their "Dear Loving Master"
But I think we are better served by simply asking questions - as I have done
The devastating question is - What does one DO in Heaven? Can you describe a DAY? ONE DAY?
And of course I get cheap answers - "There will be lots to do in Heaven", "You won't be bored, don't worry"(boredom was not the question) & my personal favorite - "The work you will be doing will be far more fulfilling than what you ever do on earth"
I go - "ok sounds great. Can you give me DETAILS? Walk me thru a day?"
And that's when theists disappear
We see the problem here right? This is an al-mighty God - who created this huge universe, galaxies, planets, all these life forms - what WORK would he need to get done? And too need our help?
And so we end up with billions of shameless people in an idle, lazy, useless, pointless freeloader existence for eternity!
God sees them coming and mutters, "Oh great, here comes another parasite, thinking he can just sit and mooch off me for eternity"
Ok that was nasty
But we see the above scenario is not a good look
And so the Religious heads do not mention it, the followers do not ask and even if someone does, they are threatened with "questioning God's word" or their favorite - "God moves in mysterious ways"
What is frightening to me is the silence of the educated, the intellectuals
and of course the media
I have sent the above views to hundreds of newspapers - ZERO publications!
it truly frightens me how far this brainwashing goes

 

[Ramaraksha]

"the strong likelihood that Oprah will get in"
To be fair, I did catch a segment on Oprah where she questioned how good people, just because they didn't believe, end up in hell
The frightening thing was to see the audience, grinning and nodding, "yeah they will end up in hell"
these are their coworkers, neighbors, friends, even family, with children, babies - and the willingness of religious people to throw them into hell is reminiscent of Nazis dumping Jews into gas chambers

 

[ideologyhunter]

As for tone, I'm not mocking many theists, as this site is mostly atheist. I don't sit around in coffee shops telling people their religion sucks. That would be pointless, besides being dickish. But, on a site like this, where the tonic chord is sarcasm, I see no reason to parse the weird and frankly ridiculous fictions of religion. The believers who do show up here seem to have a sensible understanding that most of us don't share their beliefs -- and the ones who stay long term don't let it bother them.

 

[Ramaraksha]

As for tone, I'm not mocking many theists, as this site is mostly atheist. I don't sit around in coffee shops telling people their religion sucks. That would be pointless, besides being dickish. But, on a site like this, where the tonic chord is sarcasm, I see no reason to parse the weird and frankly ridiculous fictions of religion. The believers who do show up here seem to have a sensible understanding that most of us don't share their beliefs -- and the ones who stay long term don't let it bother them.

I get you but I am not sure if we are accomplishing anything - remember these are brainwashed people - with centuries of practice in spewing hate and venom at Unbelievers - in the past they just killed people, today at least here in the west, they limit themselves to OPEN threats of Hell and discreet or open discrimination. I didn't progress much in my line of work and today I wonder if it was because of my views on God
I think we are better served by asking questions - since this is a fantasy, they won't be able to answer even simple questions
But that is common to all Fantasies, Ponzi-schemes
But then I don't know if my way is working either, lol
Can't get past the media censors - can't ask any questions on religion that cast doubts on their cheap & easy promises

 

[TomC]

Some stand up comic has a jihadist terrorist getting to Muslim heaven and finding out that the selling specs were wrong -- it isn't 72 virgins per guy, it's one 72-year-old virgin.

I saw a funny comic once.
A jihadist martyr got to Heaven. Then he discovered that his 72 virgins were male, incel, computer nerds.
Tom

 

[pood]

I think you guys should put more spaces between your paragraphs.

I agree with most of the OP but disagree with the bit on journalists. Good journalists always ask hard-hitting questions, and religion is not exempt from that.

 

[Ramaraksha]

I think you guys should put more spaces between your paragraphs.

I agree with most of the OP but disagree with the bit on journalists. Good journalists always ask hard-hitting questions, and religion is not exempt from that.

1- Do they ask what happens to Unbelievers? Basically we are talking entire families, women, children, even babies? If children and babies are exempt we have the Native American situation that we heard of recently in Canada - where the parents were killed & the children "brought up" in Christian boarding schools. Several churches were burned recently
If "Heaven only if you are with Jesus/Allah" means that morals, values, who we are as people does not matter - all that matters is religion
We have a Nazi Germany situation where people are set apart based on religion, belief and condemned to gas chambers in hell
Do they ask about that?
2 - They ask about meeting all our DEAD loved ones again - NOT ONE asks about the welfare of our LIVING loved ones - A George Bailey dies, his wife will struggle to put food on the table - some women have resorted to prostitution to make ends meet. The children go to bed hungry, their futures destroyed, the family may become homeless! And what if there is a war raging on? Mothers, wives, daughters facing the threat of rape, torture & the father is enjoying Heaven?
We see so many athletes pointing to the sky when they win or good things happen and say "my loved ones are looking down from above, smiling" - Are they still looking down when bad things happen?
3 - and a lot more questions - all the questions I noted in starting this thread - when did you see any "Journalist" ask such questions? If you are saying they do, give me answers - what were the replies?

 

[Ramaraksha]

Some stand up comic has a jihadist terrorist getting to Muslim heaven and finding out that the selling specs were wrong -- it isn't 72 virgins per guy, it's one 72-year-old virgin.

I saw a funny comic once.
A jihadist martyr got to Heaven. Then he discovered that his 72 virgins were male, incel, computer nerds.
Tom

According to Hinduism - one gets what one wishes for - basically a Twilight Zone episode way
They want Sex - lots of naked ladies - well, reborn as Bulls - Cow, Elephant, Seal, Deer - and lots more - since all animals are naked - they will get their naked lust satisfied and since Bulls get to maintain a Harem, they will get their 72 virgins
Basically Occam's Razor in operation - there is a simpler way to get things done - no need to create a magic land where God is running brothels for these sex-crazed people

 

[pood]

I think you guys should put more spaces between your paragraphs.

I agree with most of the OP but disagree with the bit on journalists. Good journalists always ask hard-hitting questions, and religion is not exempt from that.

1- Do they ask what happens to Unbelievers? Basically we are talking entire families, women, children, even babies? If children and babies are exempt we have the Native American situation that we heard of recently in Canada - where the parents were killed & the children "brought up" in Christian boarding schools. Several churches were burned recently
If "Heaven only if you are with Jesus/Allah" means that morals, values, who we are as people does not matter - all that matters is religion
We have a Nazi Germany situation where people are set apart based on religion, belief and condemned to gas chambers in hell
Do they ask about that?
2 - They ask about meeting all our DEAD loved ones again - NOT ONE asks about the welfare of our LIVING loved ones - A George Bailey dies, his wife will struggle to put food on the table - some women have resorted to prostitution to make ends meet. The children go to bed hungry, their futures destroyed, the family may become homeless! And what if there is a war raging on? Mothers, wives, daughters facing the threat of rape, torture & the father is enjoying Heaven?
We see so many athletes pointing to the sky when they win or good things happen and say "my loved ones are looking down from above, smiling" - Are they still looking down when bad things happen?
3 - and a lot more questions - all the questions I noted in starting this thread - when did you see any "Journalist" ask such questions? If you are saying they do, give me answers - what were the replies?

Dude, I don’t know why you are getting so excited. I almost completely agree with you.

Please, PLEASE put spaces between your graphs, for ease of reading.

I don’t know what you think “journalists” are, in the Western/American sense. Dumb asses like Oprah having religious guests and pitching them softball questions are not journalists. Professional journalists interrogate the hell out of any religious claims and any other claims.

 

[Ramaraksha]

"Professional journalists interrogate the hell out of any religious claims and any other claims" please give me some examples of where these "Journalists" asked such questions & what were the responses? Can you find any video of them asking what I have asked in my OP?
Not just asking where is the evidence? Sure, it is belief - so that is easily countered
Why does God act like a Dictator? Why is belief so important to him? Does he fear a coup? Surrounds himself with cronies, sycophants who support him blindly?
We live in INCLUSIVE societies and yet Heaven is EXCLUSIVE, SEGREGATED by religion!
So many questions that i ask but I don't see journalists asking them

 

[pood]

"Professional journalists interrogate the hell out of any religious claims and any other claims" please give me some examples of where these "Journalists" asked such questions & what were the responses? Can you find any video of them asking what I have asked in my OP?
Not just asking where is the evidence? Sure, it is belief - so that is easily countered
Why does God act like a Dictator? Why is belief so important to him? Does he fear a coup? Surrounds himself with cronies, sycophants who support him blindly?
We live in INCLUSIVE societies and yet Heaven is EXCLUSIVE, SEGREGATED by religion!
So many questions that i ask but I don't see journalists asking them

Also, again, for the last time: Will you PLEASE put spaces between your graphs to facilitate ease of reading?

 

[Ramaraksha]

I think you guys should put more spaces between your paragraphs.

I agree with most of the OP but disagree with the bit on journalists. Good journalists always ask hard-hitting questions, and religion is not exempt from that.

1- Do they ask what happens to Unbelievers? Basically we are talking entire families, women, children, even babies? If children and babies are exempt we have the Native American situation that we heard of recently in Canada - where the parents were killed & the children "brought up" in Christian boarding schools. Several churches were burned recently
If "Heaven only if you are with Jesus/Allah" means that morals, values, who we are as people does not matter - all that matters is religion
We have a Nazi Germany situation where people are set apart based on religion, belief and condemned to gas chambers in hell
Do they ask about that?
2 - They ask about meeting all our DEAD loved ones again - NOT ONE asks about the welfare of our LIVING loved ones - A George Bailey dies, his wife will struggle to put food on the table - some women have resorted to prostitution to make ends meet. The children go to bed hungry, their futures destroyed, the family may become homeless! And what if there is a war raging on? Mothers, wives, daughters facing the threat of rape, torture & the father is enjoying Heaven?
We see so many athletes pointing to the sky when they win or good things happen and say "my loved ones are looking down from above, smiling" - Are they still looking down when bad things happen?
3 - and a lot more questions - all the questions I noted in starting this thread - when did you see any "Journalist" ask such questions? If you are saying they do, give me answers - what were the replies?

Dude, I don’t know why you are getting so excited. I almost completely agree with you.

Please, PLEASE put spaces between your graphs, for ease of reading.

I don’t know what you think “journalists” are, in the Western/American sense. Dumb asses like Oprah having religious guests and pitching them softball questions are not journalists. Professional journalists interrogate the hell out of any religious claims and any other claims.

"I don’t know why you are getting so excited" not getting excited - just responding to you - asking you follow up questions
Curious to know where these Journalists are asking such questions - so far I have not come across any
Were you simply stating an opinion or did you actually see or read such questions being asked?

 

[Ramaraksha]

"Professional journalists interrogate the hell out of any religious claims and any other claims" please give me some examples of where these "Journalists" asked such questions & what were the responses? Can you find any video of them asking what I have asked in my OP?
Not just asking where is the evidence? Sure, it is belief - so that is easily countered
Why does God act like a Dictator? Why is belief so important to him? Does he fear a coup? Surrounds himself with cronies, sycophants who support him blindly?
We live in INCLUSIVE societies and yet Heaven is EXCLUSIVE, SEGREGATED by religion!
So many questions that i ask but I don't see journalists asking them

Also, again, for the last time: Will you PLEASE put spaces between your graphs to facilitate ease of reading?

Now I AM irritated - buddy, deal with it - not everyone is going to cater to you
it is just a few short sentences - I am not writing pages after pages - deal with it

 

[steve_bank]

Why? Why do people flock to movies and listen to music 24/7?

Why do people immerse themselves in Star Trek, Lord Of The Rings, and Star Wars?

 

[pood]

"Professional journalists interrogate the hell out of any religious claims and any other claims" please give me some examples of where these "Journalists" asked such questions & what were the responses? Can you find any video of them asking what I have asked in my OP?
Not just asking where is the evidence? Sure, it is belief - so that is easily countered
Why does God act like a Dictator? Why is belief so important to him? Does he fear a coup? Surrounds himself with cronies, sycophants who support him blindly?
We live in INCLUSIVE societies and yet Heaven is EXCLUSIVE, SEGREGATED by religion!
So many questions that i ask but I don't see journalists asking them

Also, again, for the last time: Will you PLEASE put spaces between your graphs to facilitate ease of reading?

Now I AM irritated - buddy, deal with it - not everyone is going to cater to you
it is just a few short sentences - I am not writing pages after pages - deal with it

Dude, if you won’t want to put spaces between your graphs, then people will be less likely to read them. Deal with it.

 

[WAB]

"Professional journalists interrogate the hell out of any religious claims and any other claims" please give me some examples of where these "Journalists" asked such questions & what were the responses? Can you find any video of them asking what I have asked in my OP?
Not just asking where is the evidence? Sure, it is belief - so that is easily countered
Why does God act like a Dictator? Why is belief so important to him? Does he fear a coup? Surrounds himself with cronies, sycophants who support him blindly?
We live in INCLUSIVE societies and yet Heaven is EXCLUSIVE, SEGREGATED by religion!
So many questions that i ask but I don't see journalists asking them

Also, again, for the last time: Will you PLEASE put spaces between your graphs to facilitate ease of reading?

Now I AM irritated - buddy, deal with it - not everyone is going to cater to you
it is just a few short sentences - I am not writing pages after pages - deal with it

Dude, if you won’t want to put spaces between your graphs, then people will be less likely to read them. Deal with it.

I don't see the difficulty in formatting one's posts so that they are more readable...I tend to ignore posts that are all over the map.

 

[Learner]

1 - RW-Here Life is not easy. No one gives us anything, nothing is Free.
H-Heaven is Given to the Favored, like in Corrupt, Dictator-led countries. Life is easy, everything is free!

Ok, the bible does mention quite a bit about not being lazy in the world. Using one verse from many: Thessalonians 3:10-12:

10 For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: “The one who is unwilling to work shall not eat.”

2 - RW-Here we WORK for a living - to put food on the table, a roof over our heads, we PAY for what we eat, where we live. Once we become Adults, we are expected to stand on our own two feet, face the world on our own. And this law is not just for us but for ALL creatures on earth. In fact, we humans have it better than all other creatures on earth. Most animals get but a few months, maybe a year before the parents push them out of the nest, never to see them again

Like the previous section just above - the bible already addresses, and agrees with much of the "stating-the-obvious"in your post.

H-No one mentions any work being done in Heaven, no one even asks!
Everyone, it seems, expects God to be some sort of a Sugar Daddy & keep them in cozy comfort for eternity! They just get to sit and enjoy the good life shamelessly sponging off God!Every time I have asked - "What does one DO in Heaven? DETAILS, please" - theists run away!

It is the asking for Details that gets them, they have no clue, but that IS how Fantasies, Ponzi-Schemes work

No one asks? If it is the case that no one ever asks this question then, well done you!

I suppose regarding myself...I like building and making things, and so, I would believe that God wouldn't want to stop me or any other individual who wants to 'build and make things', or grow things, cultivate things by gladly putting their willing effort in to it, as they would with many other exciting projects still having achievements, and doing things together (that's just my little fantasy )

Sugar daddy? Hmmm ok,
that line, if we are to put in conjunction with the other lines you bring up about dictators or dictatorships...can confuse people but also sounds like a mind who has a grudge. I am wondering... did you have a bad experience that had some involvement of a Christian you knew?

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3 - RW-Here we EARN what we desire, obtain - at least are expected to. We see videos of people, for example sports stars, proudly pointing to their trophies, their medals and saying, "Nothing was given to us, we Earned it!"
In the free world that we are fortunate to live in, it is a case of What-you-know, not Whom-you-know that is important.

see previous above

H-But Heaven cannot be Earned, the only way in is to kiss the right butt, polish the right shoes.

Heaven cannot be earned? Sounds like we also have to do particular works at the same time in order to get in.

Heaven as we know is GIVEN to the Favored! Atheists, Hindus, Buddhists are threatened with dire consequences, eternal torture in Hell because well, we are not kissing the right butt! Not polishing the right shoes
Heaven is the opposite of real life - Whom-you-know is more important than What-you-know.

It is threatening, yes I see that, if of course you are opposed to the idea of Heaven and people going there.

Everyone is judged according to what is in their hearts. To sum up in context: If it is a heart of anti-christ who in the knowledge of hearing but hating Jesus, hating the idea of what Jesus represents and teaches, then yes, it will be quite threatening to those who oppose Christ.

(*EDIT: not all non-Christians, believers who are not yet convinced hate Christ, obviously and especially if they've never heard of him at all, they are judged according to the good and evil in their hearts... depending on a case-by-case basis of many variables to judge on with each person.. Christ is Judge but can forgive..)

(I'll finish here, long post on phone is tedious)

 

[pood]

"Professional journalists interrogate the hell out of any religious claims and any other claims" please give me some examples of where these "Journalists" asked such questions & what were the responses? Can you find any video of them asking what I have asked in my OP?
Not just asking where is the evidence? Sure, it is belief - so that is easily countered
Why does God act like a Dictator? Why is belief so important to him? Does he fear a coup? Surrounds himself with cronies, sycophants who support him blindly?
We live in INCLUSIVE societies and yet Heaven is EXCLUSIVE, SEGREGATED by religion!
So many questions that i ask but I don't see journalists asking them

Also, again, for the last time: Will you PLEASE put spaces between your graphs to facilitate ease of reading?

Now I AM irritated - buddy, deal with it - not everyone is going to cater to you
it is just a few short sentences - I am not writing pages after pages - deal with it

Dude, if you won’t want to put spaces between your graphs, then people will be less likely to read them. Deal with it.

Fine! Do not read it nor reply! Again the world does not cater to your likes or dislikes! Grow up!

It was just a suggestion. I’m sure others would agree. And so simple to do, while being a courtesy to your readers. Many people, especially older people, find it hard to read large blocks of text on a little screen.