Elixir
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Yup. Just goes to show how irrational Murka’s gun fetish types have become.
I blame it on the Crooks dad; we’d be rid of the scourge had he made a more sensible choice.
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I blame it on the Crooks dad; we’d be rid of the scourge had he made a more sensible choice.
Derec
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That was my point. He used it because it was convenient, not because AR15s are some superweapons that are too dangerous to be allowed to be in civilian hands.
Derec
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It was obviously tongue in cheek in the way I phrased it, but the fact remains that more people get punched and kicked to death than get killed with a rifle of any kind.
Contrary to the claims made by some (e.g. Elixir).
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Doubling down on the stupid does not make it smarter.It was obviously tongue in cheek in the way I phrased it, but the fact remains that more people get punched and kicked to death than get killed with a rifle of any kind.
Contrary to the claims made by some (e.g. Elixir).
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HFF?
I'm fairly certain that if rifles were as freely available as hands without many obstacles to obtaining them, like background checks and $$$, those statistics would be different. I'm convinced that more regulations on firearms in general could lead to a decrease in homicides involving guns in general. Thanks for sharing.
Edit: And also everyone being free to roam around with rifles like we are with hands.
Edit: And also everyone being free to roam around with rifles like we are with hands.
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The obvious point is that fact is irrelevant. It doesn’t matter that it is s fact. It gas as much relevance to any discussion about gun control as the fact that shooters with functional eyesight are more numerous than blind shooters.
Criminals use handguns because they can be concealed. It's pretty hard to bring a rifle to a robbery.I'm fairly certain that if rifles were as freely available as hands without many obstacles to obtaining them, like background checks and $$$, those statistics would be different. I'm convinced that more regulations on firearms in general could lead to a decrease in homicides involving guns in general. Thanks for sharing.
Edit: And also everyone being free to roam around with rifles like we are with hands.
Other than cost rifles are no harder to obtain than handguns. They can even be easier.
And the problem with the idea that regulations will reduce crime is that the vast majority of crime is committed with guns that were not obtained legally in the first place. How are regulations supposed to change the behavior of people who are already breaking the rules?
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Are you suggesting taking hands out of criminals? So medieval of you.I'm fairly certain that if rifles were as freely available as hands without many obstacles to obtaining them, like background checks and $$$, those statistics would be different. I'm convinced that more regulations on firearms in general could lead to a decrease in homicides involving guns in general. Thanks for sharing.
Edit: And also everyone being free to roam around with rifles like we are with hands.
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By changing the environment in which rule breakers must operate.
The problem with the idea that regulations will not reduce crime is that the vast majority of countries observably have reduced gun crime by regulating firearms.
When observation and hypothesis are in conflict, observation always wins.
If you cannot understand the causal mechanism, that only speaks to your lack of understanding, not to the lack of a mechanism.
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Yes, why bother enforcing the laws when criminals will just break them anyway?Criminals use handguns because they can be concealed. It's pretty hard to bring a rifle to a robbery.I'm fairly certain that if rifles were as freely available as hands without many obstacles to obtaining them, like background checks and $$$, those statistics would be different. I'm convinced that more regulations on firearms in general could lead to a decrease in homicides involving guns in general. Thanks for sharing.
Edit: And also everyone being free to roam around with rifles like we are with hands.
Other than cost rifles are no harder to obtain than handguns. They can even be easier.
And the problem with the idea that regulations will reduce crime is that the vast majority of crime is committed with guns that were not obtained legally in the first place. How are regulations supposed to change the behavior of people who are already breaking the rules?
Yes, why bother enforcing the laws when criminals will just break them anyway?Criminals use handguns because they can be concealed. It's pretty hard to bring a rifle to a robbery.I'm fairly certain that if rifles were as freely available as hands without many obstacles to obtaining them, like background checks and $$$, those statistics would be different. I'm convinced that more regulations on firearms in general could lead to a decrease in homicides involving guns in general. Thanks for sharing.
Edit: And also everyone being free to roam around with rifles like we are with hands.
Other than cost rifles are no harder to obtain than handguns. They can even be easier.
And the problem with the idea that regulations will reduce crime is that the vast majority of crime is committed with guns that were not obtained legally in the first place. How are regulations supposed to change the behavior of people who are already breaking the rules?
Even back in the "good ole" Wild West days of the US, between the 1860s and 1890s, there were gun laws in place. You couldn't even stroll into town without checking your firearm! Imagine that—folks back then had stricter gun laws, and here we are today with people crying about our candy ass gun laws.