Zimmerman in the news, part infinity

[Derec]

https://nypost.com/2018/08/29/man-claims-he-had-affair-with-dad-accused-of-killing-wife-kids/

What's the point of this article? The murderer got five life sentences, not 60 days like Mary Winkler, or an acquittal, like Nikki Redmond.

However, remember in that Women's Translator thread, how I keep saying women dig bad boys?
Women are sending love letters to this Colorado man. He’s serving a life sentence for killing his pregnant wife and their two young daughters.

https://www.cnn.com/2014/04/02/justice/delaware-du-pont-rape-case/index.html

I see more of a point in you posting this. But as horrible as it is, it is not murder. And he has to register as sex offender, which places harsh conditions on people.
Mary Winkler and Nikki Redmond have no such conditions. They can live their lives without a care in the world, even though they each murdered a man.

 

[blastula]

He’s well on his way tot the inside of a gator as well, 10-4?”

Zimmerman reportedly continued to send threatening texts and emails and making unrequested phone calls. In that nine-day time period in December, Warren received 55 phone calls, 67 texts, 36 voicemails and 27 emails from accounts associated with Zimmerman.

Florida. Sounds like Cesar Sayoc, the mail bomber.

 

[Toni]

https://nypost.com/2018/08/29/man-claims-he-had-affair-with-dad-accused-of-killing-wife-kids/

What's the point of this article? The murderer got five life sentences, not 60 days like Mary Winkler, or an acquittal, like Nikki Redmond.

However, remember in that Women's Translator thread, how I keep saying women dig bad boys?
Women are sending love letters to this Colorado man. He’s serving a life sentence for killing his pregnant wife and their two young daughters.

https://www.cnn.com/2014/04/02/justice/delaware-du-pont-rape-case/index.html

I see more of a point in you posting this. But as horrible as it is, it is not murder. And he has to register as sex offender, which places harsh conditions on people.
Mary Winkler and Nikki Redmond have no such conditions. They can live their lives without a care in the world, even though they each murdered a man.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...ife-without-parole-loud-music-killing-n228191

https://kfor.com/2018/08/09/man-who...ted-14-year-old-girl-will-serve-no-jail-time/

 

[Arctish]

Unless you date or marry them.
And all other Z's brushes with the law are minor things. He never murdered his wife while she slept or shot a girlfriend in the back in a jealous rage.
Why do you guys keep defending these female killers?

I'm not actually defending the female killers, I'm just not allowing you to equate them with the much more dangerous killer George Zimmerman.

Zimmerman has an extensive history of violence, killed someone he didn't know and had no reason to fear (someone who had in fact tried to avoid him and was talking on a phone when Zimmerman accosted him), and has threatened to kill again. Neither Redmond nor Winkler has shown such a persistent propensity for violence and neither one has threatened anyone else.

All three are killers but only one of them is a violent thug who continues to be a threat to the general public.

Well, 'girl' is a bit generous. Are there female Hutts or do they procreate by budding?

But seriously, Trayvon was the aggressor because he attacked Z. Z is allowed to ask Trayvon a question.

Martin did not attack Zimmerman. He ran away from the confrontation as the physical evidence shows and witness testimony indicates, including Zimmerman's own recorded comments. Martin was on his phone talking to a girl when Zimmerman accosted him, remember?

Martin had a right to defend himself, something you either don't want to acknowledge or don't believe, apparently because he was black. If Martin had been white teenager and the man with a gun chasing after him was black, you'd fully support Martin's right to defend himself and we all know it.

No, it's not because he was black. Also, from that megathread from 2012, remember that there were inconsistencies in the timeline. For one, it took Trayvon much longer than it should have to walk back to the house. It was raining, and the basketball game was about to resume, so why take extra while, instead of doing the opposite and actually hurrying up?
Z said that Trayvon looked like he was casing houses. What if he was taking that long because that's exactly what he was doing? That would fit with the whole burglary tools/mystery jewelry thing from Miami.

There are many possible reasons why he took his time, the most obvious of which is that he was enjoying his conversation with his friend.

Anyway, it doesn't matter. What matters is that a man with a criminal record and history of violence got out of his car with a gun to pursue him, he ran away, but the man caught up to him near his home and killed him. That man, a violent thug named George Zimmerman, continues to commit acts of violence and has threatened to kill again. Some people see that as a problem.

 

[marc]

There are many possible reasons why he took his time, the most obvious of which is that he was enjoying his conversation with his friend.

Another possibility is that he was trying to evade a stalker and not lead him back home. When he got out of Z’s line of sight he might have tried to hide in hope that Z would keep going, loosing him. When he thought he was safe he got back to his phone conversation, but Z had come back and found him.

 

[ZiprHead]

 Whataboutism

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Oh gawd... the Zimmerman - Martin subject feels just like 9/11 CT threads now. The same damn BS... over and over.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

There are many possible reasons why he took his time, the most obvious of which is that he was enjoying his conversation with his friend.

Another possibility is that he was trying to evade a stalker and not lead him back home. When he got out of Z’s line of sight he might have tried to hide in hope that Z would keep going, loosing him. When he thought he was safe he got back to his phone conversation, but Z had come back and found him.

I think since Z was chasing him with a vehicle and was on the phone with unknown persons, Martin didn't know if he could get away or was cornered. Therefore, he hid at his earliest convenience. While hiding it became clear that Zimmerman was trying to find him but no one else was around as he was still on the phone with these unknown persons not there yet. So, at that point Martin felt safer to verbally challenge him.

I will add that I think Zimmerman showed him the gun either as a threat or by accident which added to the factors of why they ended up in a scuffle turned worse. I say that because it explains some things but also in the video of Z's reenactment he claims he reached into the wrong pocket looking for his phone while his body language and maybe a gulp or something similar makes this part suspicious.

Anyway, I guess there are lots of possibilities. The only living person who knows the truth is a liar, violent thug, and racist.

 

[lpetrich]

Local turd is broke as hell

A Seminole County judge is allowing George Zimmerman to use a public defender in his latest legal skirmish.
According to court documents, Zimmerman – who’s facing a misdemeanor stalking charge that was filed by the Seminole County State Attorney’s Office earlier this month – told the judge that he’s unemployed, $2.5 million in debt and has no income.

How did he get that much in debt??? How could a lower-middle-class person get such a big line of credit???

He could have had a great career as a right-wing activist, but he seems to have a tendency to get violent. Does he show any awareness of that? Does he recognize that he will have to keep himself from getting violent? So what made him a celebrity among right-wingers is what's doing him in.

 

[laughing dog]

Some folks don't rest easy when a killer is on the loose, especially when he's threatening to kill people.

So are Mary Winkler and Nikki Redmond, but I do not start threads about them every few months.

No, you just bring them up every couple of months regardless of their relevance.

BTW, this thread is not new.

So? Z killed Trayvon in self defense.

That is Zimmerman's claim. Zimmerman has a history of violence. Neither Winkler or Redmond do.

And all other Z's brushes with the law are minor things.

If he were an undocumented alien, ICE would have deported his ass long ago. And you would have cheered.

 

[Gun Nut]

I'm not actually defending the female killers, I'm just not allowing you to equate them with the much more dangerous killer George Zimmerman.

Zimmerman has an extensive history of violence, killed someone he didn't know and had no reason to fear (someone who had in fact tried to avoid him and was talking on a phone when Zimmerman accosted him), and has threatened to kill again. Neither Redmond nor Winkler has shown such a persistent propensity for violence and neither one has threatened anyone else.

All three are killers but only one of them is a violent thug who continues to be a threat to the general public.



Martin did not attack Zimmerman. He ran away from the confrontation as the physical evidence shows and witness testimony indicates, including Zimmerman's own recorded comments. Martin was on his phone talking to a girl when Zimmerman accosted him, remember?

Martin had a right to defend himself, something you either don't want to acknowledge or don't believe, apparently because he was black. If Martin had been white teenager and the man with a gun chasing after him was black, you'd fully support Martin's right to defend himself and we all know it.

No, it's not because he was black. Also, from that megathread from 2012, remember that there were inconsistencies in the timeline. For one, it took Trayvon much longer than it should have to walk back to the house. It was raining, and the basketball game was about to resume, so why take extra while, instead of doing the opposite and actually hurrying up?
Z said that Trayvon looked like he was casing houses. What if he was taking that long because that's exactly what he was doing? That would fit with the whole burglary tools/mystery jewelry thing from Miami.

There are many possible reasons why he took his time, the most obvious of which is that he was enjoying his conversation with his friend.

Anyway, it doesn't matter. What matters is that a man with a criminal record and history of violence got out of his car with a gun to pursue him, he ran away, but the man caught up to him near his home and killed him. That man, a violent thug named George Zimmerman, continues to commit acts of violence and has threatened to kill again. Some people see that as a problem.

I recently watched an Active Defense video that (for the first time for me) pointed out a criminal tactic... the robber (of a barber shop) held his gun up to the side of his own head like it was a cell phone he was talking on, presumably to prevent people outside the establishment from noticing the robbery. During that analysis in the video they talked about using cell phones as "cover" for the ramp up of a crime... they showed various examples of would-be-burglers using their cell phone to cover their loitering activities around establishments they were casing. This particular thing was more about how they used concealed a gun by holding it like a cell phone.

 

[Toni]

I'm not actually defending the female killers, I'm just not allowing you to equate them with the much more dangerous killer George Zimmerman.

Zimmerman has an extensive history of violence, killed someone he didn't know and had no reason to fear (someone who had in fact tried to avoid him and was talking on a phone when Zimmerman accosted him), and has threatened to kill again. Neither Redmond nor Winkler has shown such a persistent propensity for violence and neither one has threatened anyone else.

All three are killers but only one of them is a violent thug who continues to be a threat to the general public.



Martin did not attack Zimmerman. He ran away from the confrontation as the physical evidence shows and witness testimony indicates, including Zimmerman's own recorded comments. Martin was on his phone talking to a girl when Zimmerman accosted him, remember?



There are many possible reasons why he took his time, the most obvious of which is that he was enjoying his conversation with his friend.

Anyway, it doesn't matter. What matters is that a man with a criminal record and history of violence got out of his car with a gun to pursue him, he ran away, but the man caught up to him near his home and killed him. That man, a violent thug named George Zimmerman, continues to commit acts of violence and has threatened to kill again. Some people see that as a problem.

I recently watched an Active Defense video that (for the first time for me) pointed out a criminal tactic... the robber (of a barber shop) held his gun up to the side of his own head like it was a cell phone he was talking on, presumably to prevent people outside the establishment from noticing the robbery. During that analysis in the video they talked about using cell phones as "cover" for the ramp up of a crime... they showed various examples of would-be-burglers using their cell phone to cover their loitering activities around establishments they were casing. This particular thing was more about how they used concealed a gun by holding it like a cell phone.

Was there a part about how white people use the color of their skin to portray themselves as the good guys? Or the color of dark skinned people to portray them as bad guys?

Because that's something I've definitely noticed.

Also: what kind of merch did you purchase?

 

[lpetrich]

I've thought of a possible source for George Zimmerman's debts: that he might have tried to start a business, a business that then failed and left him with a lot of debts.

 George Zimmerman mentions some things that support that possibility.

In December 2013, Zimmerman began selling paintings he had made. His first painting, of an American flag, sold for $100,099.99 on eBay in late December.[80] On the auction page for the painting, Zimmerman wrote:

Everyone has been asking what I have been doing with myself. I found a creative way to express myself, my emotions, and the symbols that represent my experiences. My art work allows me to reflect, providing a therapeutic outlet, and allows me to remain indoors I hope you enjoy owning this piece as much as I enjoyed creating it. Your friend, George Zimmerman.[80]

It was later reported that the American flag painting was copied without attribution from a stock image taken from Shutterstock.[81]

Some of his other paintings have provoked similar controversies.

Andrew Russeth of the New York Observer appraised Zimmerman's work as likened to paint by number.[80] Jason Edward, a contributing editor at Art+Auction, referred to the paintings as "very primitive, the sort of thing an art critic wouldn't look at twice."[80] Christian Viveros-Fauné, an art critic for the Village Voice, has referred to Zimmerman's artistic endeavors as constituting "murderabilia".[80]

So he made Adolf Hitler seem like a great artist:  Paintings by Adolf Hitler

A section, "Gun sale", contains:

n May 11, 2016, Zimmerman posted what was planned to be the auction of the firearm he used to shoot Martin. The post, in which Zimmerman wrote that the gun was "an American Firearm icon", attracted controversy. Zimmerman subsequently explained that the Justice Department had recently returned the weapon to him. He said that he had the right as owner to sell it.[92] Zimmerman said the proceeds of the weapon would go to combating the violence against police officers by members of the Black Lives Matter movement as well as "ensure the demise of Angela Corey's persecution career and Hillary Clinton's anti-firearm rhetoric".[93] After selling the weapon, Zimmerman said that he had chosen to sell it directly as a result of Clinton "stumping around for a false campaign for the Trayvon Martin Foundation" and accused her of lying about the events of the shooting.[94][95]

What happened next is rather confused, with some gun sites cancelling auctions of his gun, but with him apparently succeeding in auctioning it off.


Those purported large debts ought to be troubling for the Right, because many right-wingers portray themselves as the adults in the room about finances.

 

[RavenSky]

Some folks don't rest easy when a killer is on the loose, especially when he's threatening to kill people.

So are Mary Winkler and Nikki Redmond, but I do not start threads about them every few months.

You bring them up every chance you get

 

[RavenSky]

I recently watched an Active Defense video that (for the first time for me) pointed out a criminal tactic... the robber (of a barber shop) held his gun up to the side of his own head like it was a cell phone he was talking on, presumably to prevent people outside the establishment from noticing the robbery. During that analysis in the video they talked about using cell phones as "cover" for the ramp up of a crime... they showed various examples of would-be-burglers using their cell phone to cover their loitering activities around establishments they were casing. This particular thing was more about how they used concealed a gun by holding it like a cell phone.

Which has exactly fuck all to do with the violent thug murderer George Zimmerman crying broke after threatening to kill another person.

 

[RavenSky]

I've thought of a possible source for George Zimmerman's debts: that he might have tried to start a business, a business that then failed and left him with a lot of debts.

 George Zimmerman mentions some things that support that possibility.

Some of his other paintings have provoked similar controversies.


So he made Adolf Hitler seem like a great artist:  Paintings by Adolf Hitler

A section, "Gun sale", contains:

n May 11, 2016, Zimmerman posted what was planned to be the auction of the firearm he used to shoot Martin. The post, in which Zimmerman wrote that the gun was "an American Firearm icon", attracted controversy. Zimmerman subsequently explained that the Justice Department had recently returned the weapon to him. He said that he had the right as owner to sell it.[92] Zimmerman said the proceeds of the weapon would go to combating the violence against police officers by members of the Black Lives Matter movement as well as "ensure the demise of Angela Corey's persecution career and Hillary Clinton's anti-firearm rhetoric".[93] After selling the weapon, Zimmerman said that he had chosen to sell it directly as a result of Clinton "stumping around for a false campaign for the Trayvon Martin Foundation" and accused her of lying about the events of the shooting.[94][95]

What happened next is rather confused, with some gun sites cancelling auctions of his gun, but with him apparently succeeding in auctioning it off.


Those purported large debts ought to be troubling for the Right, because many right-wingers portray themselves as the adults in the room about finances.

I suspect the "debt" is actually what he 'owes on paper' to his various attorneys, a debt none of them actually expect to ever collect but conveniently allows the thug murderer to have his own pity party and raise money from some of the jackasses still defending him in spite of all these years of his violence.

 

[blastula]

I recently watched an Active Defense video that (for the first time for me) pointed out a criminal tactic... the robber (of a barber shop) held his gun up to the side of his own head like it was a cell phone he was talking on, presumably to prevent people outside the establishment from noticing the robbery. During that analysis in the video they talked about using cell phones as "cover" for the ramp up of a crime... they showed various examples of would-be-burglers using their cell phone to cover their loitering activities around establishments they were casing. This particular thing was more about how they used concealed a gun by holding it like a cell phone.

Martin was actually on the phone though.

 

[Arctish]

I recently watched an Active Defense video that (for the first time for me) pointed out a criminal tactic... the robber (of a barber shop) held his gun up to the side of his own head like it was a cell phone he was talking on, presumably to prevent people outside the establishment from noticing the robbery. During that analysis in the video they talked about using cell phones as "cover" for the ramp up of a crime... they showed various examples of would-be-burglers using their cell phone to cover their loitering activities around establishments they were casing. This particular thing was more about how they used concealed a gun by holding it like a cell phone.

Martin was actually on the phone though.

Perhaps Gun Nut was referring to Zimmerman's 'reaching for his cell phone' act to hide the fact he was reaching for his Glock.

Because that makes more sense than saying Zimmerman had reason to suspect Martin was armed because Zimmerman saw him walking around and talking like he was using a cell phone.

 

[Toni]

I recently watched an Active Defense video that (for the first time for me) pointed out a criminal tactic... the robber (of a barber shop) held his gun up to the side of his own head like it was a cell phone he was talking on, presumably to prevent people outside the establishment from noticing the robbery. During that analysis in the video they talked about using cell phones as "cover" for the ramp up of a crime... they showed various examples of would-be-burglers using their cell phone to cover their loitering activities around establishments they were casing. This particular thing was more about how they used concealed a gun by holding it like a cell phone.

Martin was actually on the phone though.

Perhaps Gun Nut was referring to Zimmerman's 'reaching for his cell phone' act to hide the fact he was reaching for his Glock.

Because that makes more sense than saying Zimmerman had reason to suspect Martin was armed because Zimmerman saw him walking around and talking like he was using a cell phone.

Since if you are black, you are not allowed to enter your own home, call your mom on your own phone, sell lemonade or have a barbecue in the park or play music white people don’t like, read a book in public, or even sit in your own living room minding your own damn business without the cops being called or killing you in your own damn living room, why should black peoples be allowed to have or use cell phones?

 

[Trausti]

Every argument about what happened, could of happened, and who is or isn't a White Hispanic, has already been made ad nauseam in the other Big Z threads. It's so nostalgic to see them played out again. Hopefully in a few months the Z man will kick a puppy or call a girl fat and we'll have yet another thread to reminisce.

Damn. Over two years old. And here we are.