Metaphor: I did not declare that she was an academic, or imply it, as you prove below by quoting me.
I'm not sure why you decided to bring AOC et al into this discussion, then?
Because I was talking about the left. I can't understand how you perceive difficulty in the connection.
You:
See, where I say 'American academics...advocate for it, and the left in the Democrat party' very pointedly separates the academics and the politicians.
Sure. I am honestly not certain when you think university professors are indoctrinating students or even advocating for any political philosophy other than education is good (something the right wing in the US increasingly disagrees with).
I am gobsmacked that you
once again make the misleading statement that I accused professors of 'indoctrinating' when what I said was the left heavily outweighs the right in American academia. Stop making claims I said something that I did not say.
I took exactly ONE sociology class and nope, no political indoctrination. Basic sociology discusses basic concepts, terms, etc. Not politics.
I took a class in English called 'Text and Gender'. This was in the late 1990s. I feel if
you took the class, you'd say 'no, the professor didn't reveal her leanings at all'. But I can assure you, the professor's leftist feminist ideology was
extremely obvious.
In my Shakespearean classes and Greek Drama, we mostly discussed the themes contained in the texts, Politics? Well, I suppose if you want to count discussing the politics in Richard III or Henry IV or Henry V or King Lear or A Midsummer Night's Dream? Ancient politics, or at least as conveyed by Shakespeare, who most historians would pick quite a few bones with. Personally, I loved the language, especially in The Tempest, and parts of King Lear. And who doesn't fall in love with Shakespeare when they read the opening of Macbeth????
Greek Drama? Really? Sadly, my classes were just rudimentary and we never really got into the politics of Agamemnon sacrificing his daughter to make the winds favor the Greeks or whether his wife was justified in murdering him in revenge. There certainly are scholars and authors who discuss Greek Drama from a feminist perspective and from other political perspectives, but in my classes, it was much more rudimentary than that: most of the class was struggling to keep the names straight and to grasp the ancient notion of the Erinyes or Bacchanals, etc. and how the plays both reflected and formed the ancient Greek world view and society. The plays were morality plays. It was generally thought to be very bad to murder family members or guests.
Those were classes I took for fun and out of interest. Most of my time was spent on cell and molecular biology and biochemistry. Which I enjoyed but it was a different part of the brain, so to speak.
Medical schools are now incorporating gender ideology into their lessons.
But there's no leftist leaning in academia, no.
If no one is attempting to indoctrinate students, then who the fuck cares what any professor's political leanings might be?
Oy gevalt.
First, you make claims that I said things I did not say. You haven't apologised for making those false claims more than once, but I can see you've dropped the claims, which I suppose is as close to an apology as I'll ever get from you.
Second, the fact that you resist the notion and claim epistemological privilege and argue with me that the left does not heavily outweigh the right in US academia more than proves my point that some leftists-
-like yourself--simply have no idea how far left they really are compared to the rest of America and the rest of the world. Leftists like you call the Democratic party 'centre right'. When you think the Democrats are 'centre right' - the party that, at local or state or national level has supported police defunding and slavery reparations - you simply cannot be taken credibly on your political barometer, or your spatial awareness, frankly.
Third, even though I did not make the claim that professors must necessarily indoctrinate their leanings into students, there is no doubt that some do, and that students who do not agree will suffer academically. Further, US academia is more than just professors. It's also administration and students.
But I see you've moved on to stage 2 of the leftist playbook. Stage 1 was
denying the obvious is happening (the left heavily outweighs the right in US academia). When that denial becomes untenable, we have arrived at Stage 2: it's happening but it doesn't matter (yes the left outweighs the right in US academia but who cares).
I look forward to Stage 3 and Stage 4.