Monkeypox

[Toni]

Aside from every fiber of my being screaming in outrage and horror at the anti-gay bias shown by some in this thread, I'm a bit curious if those of us old enough to have been vaccinated against smallpox would be immune.

I also know that there is sufficient smallpox vaccine that troops being deployed to certain regions were routinely vaccinated against it within the last 10 years.

 

[Toni]

Monkeypox appears to affect a certain demographic engaged in certain behavior. Most people will be alright.

And some of us will never be alright.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

The US has enough smallpox vaccine in reserve for everyone. It is in case it is used as a bioweapon. No reason not to get one if you can.

If everyone gets the smallpox vaccine you're looking at a few hundred dead.

And, the best part about using the vaccine now? Bioweapon use becomes ineffective for at least long enough to refresh the supply.

And they can't engineer a variant that evades the vaccine??

So, think about that with respect to our vaccine supply...

I think you misunderstood.

I'm questioning how useful the vaccine would be against a bioweapon because I would expect the bioweapon to be engineered to get past the vaccine.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Aside from every fiber of my being screaming in outrage and horror at the anti-gay bias shown by some in this thread, I'm a bit curious if those of us old enough to have been vaccinated against smallpox would be immune.

I also know that there is sufficient smallpox vaccine that troops being deployed to certain regions were routinely vaccinated against it within the last 10 years.

Some protection, I don't think we have any data on how good it is. My wife got the Cowpox version and I find even less information about it.

 

[Jarhyn]

The US has enough smallpox vaccine in reserve for everyone. It is in case it is used as a bioweapon. No reason not to get one if you can.

If everyone gets the smallpox vaccine you're looking at a few hundred dead.

And, the best part about using the vaccine now? Bioweapon use becomes ineffective for at least long enough to refresh the supply.

And they can't engineer a variant that evades the vaccine??

So, think about that with respect to our vaccine supply...

I think you misunderstood.

I'm questioning how useful the vaccine would be against a bioweapon because I would expect the bioweapon to be engineered to get past the vaccine.

Ah, my bad. So all the more reason we should just USE IT!

 

[Jarhyn]

Aside from every fiber of my being screaming in outrage and horror at the anti-gay bias shown by some in this thread, I'm a bit curious if those of us old enough to have been vaccinated against smallpox would be immune.

I also know that there is sufficient smallpox vaccine that troops being deployed to certain regions were routinely vaccinated against it within the last 10 years.

Some protection, I don't think we have any data on how good it is. My wife got the Cowpox version and I find even less information about it.

85%. Smallpox vaccine is 85% effective against Monkeypox

 

[Toni]

Aside from every fiber of my being screaming in outrage and horror at the anti-gay bias shown by some in this thread, I'm a bit curious if those of us old enough to have been vaccinated against smallpox would be immune.

I also know that there is sufficient smallpox vaccine that troops being deployed to certain regions were routinely vaccinated against it within the last 10 years.

Some protection, I don't think we have any data on how good it is. My wife got the Cowpox version and I find even less information about it.

85%. Smallpox vaccine is 85% effective against Monkeypox

Do you have links? Like most people of my generation, I was vaccinated….as a child. Long enough ago that I have no idea when, but I have the scar. I’m curious about whether I still have immunity, give that smallpox has been effectively irradiated in the US. Vaccines wane in effectiveness over time of there is no exposure to the infectious agent.

 

[Jarhyn]

Aside from every fiber of my being screaming in outrage and horror at the anti-gay bias shown by some in this thread, I'm a bit curious if those of us old enough to have been vaccinated against smallpox would be immune.

I also know that there is sufficient smallpox vaccine that troops being deployed to certain regions were routinely vaccinated against it within the last 10 years.

Some protection, I don't think we have any data on how good it is. My wife got the Cowpox version and I find even less information about it.

85%. Smallpox vaccine is 85% effective against Monkeypox

Do you have links? Like most people of my generation, I was vaccinated….as a child. Long enough ago that I have no idea when, but I have the scar. I’m curious about whether I still have immunity, give that smallpox has been effectively irradiated in the US. Vaccines wane in effectiveness over time of there is no exposure to the infectious agent.

I'm not sure how effective past inoculation is. You would have to research long term effectiveness of the smallpox vaccine, initial effectiveness, and then do a comparison between the smallpox effectiveness and the cowpox effectiveness.

My expectation is that you have a little protection but not a lot.

CDC: Past data from Africa suggests that the smallpox vaccine is at least 85% effective in preventing monkeypox

 

[bilby]

I’m curious about whether I still have immunity, give that smallpox has been effectively irradiated in the US.

Radioactive smallpox!!!

Run for the hills!!!!

Oh, wait, probably an autocorrect of "eradicated".

Shame, I was hoping to hear about people developing superpowers. No police force could catch The Scarlet Pimple! (Though I suspect Baroness Orczy has dibs on that story...)

 

[skepticalbip]

Aside from every fiber of my being screaming in outrage and horror at the anti-gay bias shown by some in this thread, I'm a bit curious if those of us old enough to have been vaccinated against smallpox would be immune.

I also know that there is sufficient smallpox vaccine that troops being deployed to certain regions were routinely vaccinated against it within the last 10 years.

Some protection, I don't think we have any data on how good it is. My wife got the Cowpox version and I find even less information about it.

85%. Smallpox vaccine is 85% effective against Monkeypox

Do you have links? Like most people of my generation, I was vaccinated….as a child. Long enough ago that I have no idea when, but I have the scar. I’m curious about whether I still have immunity, give that smallpox has been effectively irradiated in the US. Vaccines wane in effectiveness over time of there is no exposure to the infectious agent.

I have the scar too so I'm not that worried. But, just to be safe, I decided to quit having sex with infected monkeys.

 

[repoman]

 

[TV and credit cards]

I’m curious about whether I still have immunity, give that smallpox has been effectively irradiated in the US.

Radioactive smallpox!!!

Run for the hills!!!!

Oh, wait, probably an autocorrect of "eradicated".

Shame, I was hoping to hear about people developing superpowers. No police force could catch The Scarlet Pimple! (Though I suspect Baroness Orczy has dibs on that story...)

Sink me, you can be tedious at times.

 

[Toni]

I’m curious about whether I still have immunity, give that smallpox has been effectively irradiated in the US.

Radioactive smallpox!!!

Run for the hills!!!!

Oh, wait, probably an autocorrect of "eradicated".

Shame, I was hoping to hear about people developing superpowers. No police force could catch The Scarlet Pimple! (Though I suspect Baroness Orczy has dibs on that story...)

Sink me, you can be tedious at times.

Yeah, I was typing from my phone which has an odd sense of humor. If I don't carefully go back and re-check every single word, sometimes there are some very interesting substitutions. My PC is less...problematic.

 

[Toni]

I’m curious about whether I still have immunity, give that smallpox has been effectively irradiated in the US.

Radioactive smallpox!!!

Run for the hills!!!!

Oh, wait, probably an autocorrect of "eradicated".

Shame, I was hoping to hear about people developing superpowers. No police force could catch The Scarlet Pimple! (Though I suspect Baroness Orczy has dibs on that story...)

You know I’m a terrible typist especially on my phone which has interesting and creative ways of ‘correcting’ my typos.

I actually do know the difference between eradicated and irradiated even if my phone dies not.

 

[Politesse]

I’m curious about whether I still have immunity, give that smallpox has been effectively irradiated in the US.

Radioactive smallpox!!!

Run for the hills!!!!

Oh, wait, probably an autocorrect of "eradicated".

Shame, I was hoping to hear about people developing superpowers. No police force could catch The Scarlet Pimple! (Though I suspect Baroness Orczy has dibs on that story...)

You know I’m a terrible typist especially on my phone which has interesting and creative ways of ‘correcting’ my typos.

I actually do know the difference between eradicated and irradiated even if my phone dies not.

You have my sympathy, Toni! I passed my GWE with flying colors, but when I'm trying to make forum posts from my phone, I rotuinely produce typos, elisions, and accidentally greenlit auto-corrections that would make a primary school teacher blanch.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

I’m curious about whether I still have immunity, give that smallpox has been effectively irradiated in the US.

Radioactive smallpox!!!

Run for the hills!!!!

Oh, wait, probably an autocorrect of "eradicated".

Shame, I was hoping to hear about people developing superpowers. No police force could catch The Scarlet Pimple! (Though I suspect Baroness Orczy has dibs on that story...)

You know I’m a terrible typist especially on my phone which has interesting and creative ways of ‘correcting’ my typos.

I actually do know the difference between eradicated and irradiated even if my phone dies not.

Uh oh! Better change that before bilby sees it!

 

[Loren Pechtel]

I think you misunderstood.

I'm questioning how useful the vaccine would be against a bioweapon because I would expect the bioweapon to be engineered to get past the vaccine.

Ah, my bad. So all the more reason we should just USE IT!

The problem is that it carries a 1-2 in a million death rate. At the present threat level it should be used for ring fencing, not general use.

(And note that while it's not likely to work against a state-sponsored bioweapon there's also the possibility of bioterrorism. I can picture some of the Islamists making themselves a copy (there are companies that could do this now--they're very careful to refuse stuff that matches the smallpox genome, but that doesn't mean a black hat couldn't set up an equivalent system) and using it for terrorist purposes. That wouldn't be engineered to defeat the vaccine and they would be much more likely to do stupid things. Look at the hotheads in Pakistan--keeping trying to egg on war with India even though "success" would almost certainly be nuclear. Fortunately, they're not in control there.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Aside from every fiber of my being screaming in outrage and horror at the anti-gay bias shown by some in this thread, I'm a bit curious if those of us old enough to have been vaccinated against smallpox would be immune.

I also know that there is sufficient smallpox vaccine that troops being deployed to certain regions were routinely vaccinated against it within the last 10 years.

Some protection, I don't think we have any data on how good it is. My wife got the Cowpox version and I find even less information about it.

85%. Smallpox vaccine is 85% effective against Monkeypox

The question is how effective it is after all these years. My last (probably only, but I do not know) smallpox shot was presumably 1974 but I don't have the records. (I know I had a current one in 1975 but given how early in the year our trip started the shot was probably in the previous year.) I've never asked my wife when she had hers, I would presume it was when she was young.

 

[Jarhyn]

Aside from every fiber of my being screaming in outrage and horror at the anti-gay bias shown by some in this thread, I'm a bit curious if those of us old enough to have been vaccinated against smallpox would be immune.

I also know that there is sufficient smallpox vaccine that troops being deployed to certain regions were routinely vaccinated against it within the last 10 years.

Some protection, I don't think we have any data on how good it is. My wife got the Cowpox version and I find even less information about it.

85%. Smallpox vaccine is 85% effective against Monkeypox

Do you have links? Like most people of my generation, I was vaccinated….as a child. Long enough ago that I have no idea when, but I have the scar. I’m curious about whether I still have immunity, give that smallpox has been effectively irradiated in the US. Vaccines wane in effectiveness over time of there is no exposure to the infectious agent.

I'm not sure how effective past inoculation is. You would have to research long term effectiveness of the smallpox vaccine, initial effectiveness, and then do a comparison between the smallpox effectiveness and the cowpox effectiveness.

My expectation is that you have a little protection but not a lot.

Aside from every fiber of my being screaming in outrage and horror at the anti-gay bias shown by some in this thread, I'm a bit curious if those of us old enough to have been vaccinated against smallpox would be immune.

I also know that there is sufficient smallpox vaccine that troops being deployed to certain regions were routinely vaccinated against it within the last 10 years.

Some protection, I don't think we have any data on how good it is. My wife got the Cowpox version and I find even less information about it.

85%. Smallpox vaccine is 85% effective against Monkeypox

The question is how effective it is after all these years. My last (probably only, but I do not know) smallpox shot was presumably 1974 but I don't have the records. (I know I had a current one in 1975 but given how early in the year our trip started the shot was probably in the previous year.) I've never asked my wife when she had hers, I would presume it was when she was young.

Oh. Probably not 85% in that case. I don't know how you would tell, you would have to look at whether there is a boundary on boomer age folks and there isn't a big enough population of those doing the things that apparently spread monkey pox to measure as of yet, I don't think.

 

[Toni]

Aside from every fiber of my being screaming in outrage and horror at the anti-gay bias shown by some in this thread, I'm a bit curious if those of us old enough to have been vaccinated against smallpox would be immune.

I also know that there is sufficient smallpox vaccine that troops being deployed to certain regions were routinely vaccinated against it within the last 10 years.

Some protection, I don't think we have any data on how good it is. My wife got the Cowpox version and I find even less information about it.

85%. Smallpox vaccine is 85% effective against Monkeypox

Do you have links? Like most people of my generation, I was vaccinated….as a child. Long enough ago that I have no idea when, but I have the scar. I’m curious about whether I still have immunity, give that smallpox has been effectively irradiated in the US. Vaccines wane in effectiveness over time of there is no exposure to the infectious agent.

I'm not sure how effective past inoculation is. You would have to research long term effectiveness of the smallpox vaccine, initial effectiveness, and then do a comparison between the smallpox effectiveness and the cowpox effectiveness.

My expectation is that you have a little protection but not a lot.

Aside from every fiber of my being screaming in outrage and horror at the anti-gay bias shown by some in this thread, I'm a bit curious if those of us old enough to have been vaccinated against smallpox would be immune.

I also know that there is sufficient smallpox vaccine that troops being deployed to certain regions were routinely vaccinated against it within the last 10 years.

Some protection, I don't think we have any data on how good it is. My wife got the Cowpox version and I find even less information about it.

85%. Smallpox vaccine is 85% effective against Monkeypox

The question is how effective it is after all these years. My last (probably only, but I do not know) smallpox shot was presumably 1974 but I don't have the records. (I know I had a current one in 1975 but given how early in the year our trip started the shot was probably in the previous year.) I've never asked my wife when she had hers, I would presume it was when she was young.

Oh. Probably not 85% in that case. I don't know how you would tell, you would have to look at whether there is a boundary on boomer age folks and there isn't a big enough population of those doing the things that apparently spread monkey pox to measure as of yet, I don't think.

Yeah, mine would have been prior
to 1960….