Is Georgia on your mind?

[Cheerful Charlie]

Willful ignorance is so declasse.

 

[southernhybrid]

So you're voting for Herschel Walker. Got it.

I see you like writing fiction.

Aren't you one of the Ilk who pretends that voter suppression isn't a thing? What do you say about #701 in this thread?

I do not see how ability to challenge voters' registrations based on things like address affects only Democrats.
Besides, it is important to know where somebody lives to avoid them voting in two places.

From what I remember from the last big election, only a few people voted fraudulently and they were Republicans. I don't think it happened in Georgia. Almost nobody tries to vote illegally. It's a crime with the potential of a long prison sentence. Plus, the vast majority of people who vote aren't interested in cheating, so imo, there is no valid reason to challenge voters, other than an attempt to suppress the vote, by making it harder for some people to vote.

The Republicans challenged a lot of voter's right to vote this time around, either because they are nuts or because they were trying to keep people from voting by making them think they may be accused of fraud. They tend to challenge voters who live in heavily blue districts. Some voters aren't very educated and are easily scared. If they don't take voting as seriously as some of us do, and/or they don't have the time to fight the challenge, they will stay home, rather than go through the trouble that some who were challenged did.

 

[ZiprHead]

 

[Swammerdami]

From what I remember from the last big election, only a few people voted fraudulently and they were Republicans. I don't think it happened in Georgia. Almost nobody tries to vote illegally. It's a crime with the potential of a long prison sentence. Plus, the vast majority of people who vote aren't interested in cheating, so imo, there is no valid reason to challenge voters, other than an attempt to suppress the vote, by making it harder for some people to vote.

Yes, the idea that any significant number of people vote 2 or more times is just fatuous farting. It is an irrational waste of time just to vote ONCE! People vote from a sense of responsibility or patriotism, not because the tiny chance of affecting the result is worth the wasted time. This is true even for a minimum-wage worker who spends 3 minutes voting; and some wait in line for hours to vote.

Yet the Ilk would have us believe that some people would risk a prison term to increase the chance of D victory from 47% to 47.000000001%.

Of course my analysis assumes that the voter has at least a tiny bit of intelligence or common sense. All bets are off when it comes to the QOP:

The former Colorado Republican Party chair’s felony forgery conviction will stand, after the Court of Appeals on Thursday rejected his argument that he should have been charged with a lesser offense when he fraudulently submitted his ex-wife’s 2016 mail ballot.

Steven Curtis voted twice in the 2016 general election, filling out his own ballot as well as that of Kelly Curtis, his ex-wife. He forged her signature and mailed her ballot to the Weld County Clerk and Recorder. When Kelly Curtis, who lived in a different state, contacted the clerk’s office for an absentee ballot, she learned that she had apparently voted already. She subsequently confirmed the signature on the ballot received was not hers.

“It seems to me, and correct me if I’m wrong, that virtually every case of voter fraud I can remember in my lifetime was committed by Democrats,” Steven Curtis said on a radio show shortly before the election, Colorado Politics reported at the time.

Read what the criminal (and QOP Party Chair) said in his talk show. Then think about the fact that he had ZERO examples of Democrats committing voter fraud, but he himself committed deliberate fraud. (He wasn't just being "helpful" by the way. IIRC he and his wife were separated and he was quite aware that she voted in another state.)

The Ilkists are so completely wrong on this topic it hurts my brain just to imagine how a sapient organism could be so confused. It would improve my impression of Ilkists if they came to their senses and admitted error publicly, but I have a better chance of finding a five-leaf clover in a volcano.

 

[southernhybrid]

I read that a law was passed some time ago to prevent early voting on a Saturday after a holiday. This Saturday would be after the Thanksgiving holiday. If I find the article, I'll post it. It does sound crazy and crazier yet is that it's up to each individual county to decide if they want to allow early voting on the Saturday prior to the Tuesday run off election day. WTF!

 

[southernhybrid]

I've read numerous conflicting articles about the state banning Saturday voting in a run off. I read one that said that it's a law that early voting can't happen after a holiday. Then I found a different one that said it was up to each county. Another one said that each county could decide whether or not to have Saturday or Sunday early voting in the run off.

Here's one.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/09/politics/georgia-senate-runoff-warnock-walker-explainer/index.html

Georgia’s top elections official, Brad Raffensperger, said counties are already preparing for the December 6 election, and voters can request absentee ballots starting Wednesday through November 28 via the state’s online portal.

Early voting must begin by November 28 in all counties, but Raffensperger said his office anticipates some counties could have early voting on Saturday, November 26 or Sunday, November 27. “We are working with the counties to find out what their plans are on this front,” he said.

Notably, the logistics of the 2022 runoff will be different than in years passed. The 2021 Georgia law that cut the length of runoffs from nine weeks to four means that the deadline for a new voter to register for the runoff election has already passed.

Gabriel Sterling, the chief operating officer for Georgia’s Secretary of State Office, told CNN’s Paula Reid Sunday evening the cutoff is in place because, “Historically, the state constitution of Georgia lays out that the runoff is supposed to be a continuation of the original election.”

I don't think that tweet is really accurate. Both sides seem to put out misinformation. It might just be a misunderstanding. I can understand that since it doesn't seem as if our SOC even knows exactly how this run off will work.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

From Electoral-Vote.com, there is a Holiday on Friday... err... there was a holiday on Friday... for some treasonous motherfucking General Lee. That holiday still exists, but it doesn't. It is a paid holiday, but it is unnamed, effectively Juneteenth for the Klan.

Luckily the SoS of GA settled this matter by stating that Friday was both a holiday and not a holiday. Sen. Warnock is suing to get voting opened up. It'll go to court. Hopefully they allow voting on Saturday. If they do, I suspect this might be a landslide for the incumbent.

 

[southernhybrid]

My county is only going to have early voting from November 28th to December 2nd. There will be no Saturday or Sunday early voting, assuming Warnock doesn't get his way. It's weird that the counties get to choose whether or not to have early voting on a weekend day.

Worse yet, imo, the hours will be from 9AM to 6PM. I'm pretty sure we had longer hours during the midterm early voting. I'm not sure about the hours on Election Day as they weren't in the local paper. Two of the three election officials in my county are Republicans and one is a far right kook, who imo, has already violated his position by openly supporting Republicans. I was told by a poll worker that they are not supposed to discuss the election or who they support. Maybe there are exceptions for the officials, but that doesn't seem fair at all. Then again, since when do Republicans support fairness.

I'm not expecting a landslide for Warnock regardless of the hours open for voting, but keep a happy thought. It's going to be about turn out. Who will be more motivated to vote. Democrats in Georgia have a history of skipping run offs, but they did pretty good in 2020, so who knows at this point.

 

[southernhybrid]

https://www.ajc.com/politics/court-...-us-senate-runoff/UYFCSFTU35DS5EPJGWKEXEKPGU/

A judge ruled that Georgia law allows Saturday voting before the runoff for the U.S. Senate, finding that polling places can open even though they follow state holidays on Thanksgiving and the day afterward that years ago honored Robert E. Lee’s birthday.

Fulton County Superior Court Judge Thomas Cox decidedFriday that state law permits counties to offer voting Nov. 26, finding in favor of Democratic U.S. Sen. Raphael Warnock’s campaign.

County governments may now choose to offer residents an opportunity to vote on that Saturday in addition to five mandatory weekdays of early voting the following week.

The last time we had a run off, voting was permitted on the Saturday after Christmas. The judge ruled that the holiday law didn't apply to run off elections. The only problem I see is that this will be decided by each county. Since my county election board is made up of 2 Republicans and one Democrat, I doubt we will have Saturday voting. Plus, one of the Republicans is an extreme crackpot, who openly talks about who he supports. I was told that poll workers aren't permitted to discuss who they support. Oh well. Republicans cheat. What else is new?

 

[southernhybrid]

I just read that while Warnock is leading in the polls, his biggest lead is with voters under the age of 50. Sadly, they are less enthusiastic about voting in the run off election compared to us old farts. But, all of the old farts I know are going to vote for Warnock and we are very enthusiastic about voting next week. Hopefully, the younger ones will do whatever it takes to vote. My damn county has now reduced early voting to 9AM to 5PM next Monday through Friday. It will be 7 to 7 on Election Day.

Btw, did y'all know that Warnock was responsible for getting Archie Bunker taken off the air in 1973 WTF! It must be true because Walker said so. Warnock was 4 years old in 1973. He must have been an amazing child to have so much sway. /s

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Saturday voting got another thumbs up. Won't be available everywhere, but it'll be where it matters most.

I think Warnock will win in a landslide-ish... ie much more than the general. I don't think right-wingers are going out to vote for a guy they don't really care for, when the Senate is already lost. There is nuance to that, but I think the nuance will be lost on the average GOP voter in GA.

 

[Elixir]

I don't think right-wingers are going out to vote for a guy they don't really care for, when the Senate is already lost.

You’d think. I’m afraid of the converse - “we already have the Senate, this isn’t going to gain us anything even if we win so screw it …”

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

I don't think right-wingers are going out to vote for a guy they don't really care for, when the Senate is already lost.

You’d think. I’m afraid of the converse - “we already have the Senate, this isn’t going to gain us anything even if we win so screw it …”

In Abrams I Trust

 

[southernhybrid]

I don't think right-wingers are going out to vote for a guy they don't really care for, when the Senate is already lost.

You’d think. I’m afraid of the converse - “we already have the Senate, this isn’t going to gain us anything even if we win so screw it …”

I don' know about that. The Walker campaigners are out handing out propaganda, telling lies about Warnock and appearing very enthusiastic about voting. I certainly hope that Warnock will easily win, but I'm still concerned because the evangelicals, who are a fairly large component in Georgia, seem to think that Walker is a wonderful man who asked Jesus forgiveness for his sins and is now one of them. it doesn't seem to matter to them that he's totally unqualified to be in the Senate.

The lies being told about Warnock are unlike most anything I've ever heard. My neighbor told me there were a bunch on Facebook saying that Warnock was a child molester. I told her that all of us Dems were, according to the nuttiest Q Republicans. WTF!

As usual, it's all going to be about turnout, so I hope those under 50, who are the biggest supporters of Warnock will make sure to vote. Oddly enough, the man who knocked on our door campaigning for Walker looked to be about 30. Mr. Sohy told him there was no way he would ever vote for that idiot.

 

[Copernicus]

Georgia Supreme Court allows early voting on post-holiday Saturday​

This won't help sohy's voting district, since her district has chosen not to allow Saturday voting, but it is interesting that the Republicans argued that there was an "emergency" that needed the court to address because of the harm that it would do to them to make it easier for a lot of folks to cast ballots in the election runoff. It is so obvious that Republicans know they lose elections when more people vote.

 

[crazyfingers]

Georgia Supreme Court allows early voting on post-holiday Saturday​

This won't help sohy's voting district, since her district has chosen not to allow Saturday voting, but it is interesting that the Republicans argued that there was an "emergency" that needed the court to address because of the harm that it would do to them to make it easier for a lot of folks to cast ballots in the election runoff. It is so obvious that Republicans know they lose elections when more people vote.

It's such an obvious voter suppression tactic. It's disgusting.

 

[southernhybrid]

Georgia Supreme Court allows early voting on post-holiday Saturday​

This won't help sohy's voting district, since her district has chosen not to allow Saturday voting, but it is interesting that the Republicans argued that there was an "emergency" that needed the court to address because of the harm that it would do to them to make it easier for a lot of folks to cast ballots in the election runoff. It is so obvious that Republicans know they lose elections when more people vote.

It's such an obvious voter suppression tactic. It's disgusting.

Yes it is. I think the fact that my district has decreased early voting to 9 to 5 is another attempt to suppress the vote of younger working voters too. Unless people work in the evenings or can easily take a couple of hours off to go to the polls to vote, it will be difficult for the younger folks to vote early. I have a friend who plans on voting absentee. She told me this morning that she was notified that her ballot was in the mail. I told her that considering how slow the mail has been lately, she'll be lucky if she gets it by Election Day. She will vote in person if necessary, but this run off election is obviously being run in an attempt to make it hard for people, other than us old folks to vote.

 

[southernhybrid]

It was mentioned in another thread that Walker received a homestead exemption on his home in Texas and some thought that might make him ineligible to run for the Senate in Georgia. Sadly, that's not the case. I found the article where I first read about this.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/23/us/politics/herschel-walker-taxes-georgia-texas.html

Public tax records first reported by CNN show that this year Mr. Walker will receive a homestead tax exemption of roughly $1,500 for his home in the Dallas area, which he listed as his primary residence. He has received the tax relief for his home since 2012, according to an official in the tax appraisal office of Tarrant County, where Mr. Walker’s home is located.
Under the Constitution, Senate candidates are required to reside in the state they will represent only once they are elected. In Georgia, candidates must meet a handful of stipulations to establish residency in the state before filing their bids for office. Mr. Walker’s tax exemption in Texas suggests that his primary residence remains outside Georgia.
A spokesman for Mr. Walker’s campaign did not respond to a request for comment.
According to the Texas comptroller, Mr. Walker’s use of the tax exemption while running in Georgia is legal. The comptroller’s website states that you may still receive the tax break after moving away from home temporarily, if “you do not establish a principal residence elsewhere, you intend to return to the home, and you are away less than two years.”

I wish that all states would require residency for at least a few years before someone could run for a federal office, but I know that's not going to happen. Such a law would stop people like Oz and Walker from moving to a state just to run for office, when they've not lived in that state recently, or in some cases ever.

 

[ZiprHead]

Bad Idea Herschel: Walker Challenges Joy Reid to a Debate - But is Silent After She Accepts

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Walker: I’d love to debate Joy Reid. You know, Senator Warnock, he’s a slick talking, smooth dressing guy, but in that debate I took him to school because he found out a lot of things he didn’t know. And I can do the same thing with Joy Reid any time of the day.

I think people sit on TV and they talk. It’s easy to talk. But I’ve been a man that have worked my whole life. I built companies. I’ve signed the front of a paycheck. They’ve never done any of that. They don’t know how to do it. I do. And I say any day of the week she want to debate she can show up here and I’ll debate her as well on any subject. She can come up with the subject, and let’s go at it.

Reid: "Okay, Herschel, come on. It aint but a short walk. We will have you on the ReidOut any day. No, seriously. We reached out to your team. We will have you on the ReidOut any day. And we can debate. Just tell us when.

But I do want to make one thing clear, Herschel. You can't bring your friends. You see your little friends there? You can't bring them. You have to do this debate on your own. So come on. The doors to the church are open, like the pastor says."

Walker has yet to accept Reid's open offer to debate him. He hasn't mentioned it at all. So he's actually proving his point that "It’s easy to talk" on friendly TV programs. But he's apparently too scared to face Reid for a debate that he insisted he would "love [to do] any day of the week."

 

[southernhybrid]

Just when I thought that Walker couldn't get any dumber, I read something he said in an opinion piece in the AJC. I can't give articles from the AJC, so I'll just quote the craziest parts.

https://www.ajc.com/politics/opinio...-voting-spectacle/OODI43GCERAGBFRDCQ6Z5PRVAU/

I'm having trouble copying what I want to report, but here's the point.

As he always does at the end of his remarks, Walker reminded supporters to vote, but called to a staff member off stage, “I don’t think they have early voting, do they?”

Told that there will be voting before the runoff, Walker asked, “They have one day? Two days?”

When the answer of one week came back, a surprised Walker said, “One week! A week? We ought to cut it down from a week. Well, if they give you a week, take that week and do vote.

So, Walker didn't even know that early voting will be for one week in this run off and he thinks it should be cut back. OMG! How dumb and uninformed is this person? He almost makes MTG look smart, horribly offensive but half way intelligent compared to Walker.

I saw an add earlier today where Kemp was supporting Walker. You could tell that his heart wasn't in it. It was so obvious. He didn't say anything positive about Walker. He just said something about how Walker could stop Biden. How low can they go! ( Don't answer that )