The death of Tyre Nichols

[Tigers!]

(Suprised that no-one has started a thread yet it seems)

So yet another death from a police beating in the USA.
Why do you people hate each other so much?

I cannot understand why the police stopping a car should result in a death?
From what we hear/see in Australia it would seem that police stop a vehicle, assume trouble and then go nuclear.
Are there any polite, calm police in the US?

The fact that it is black on black is not good indicative of a better society occuring.

 

[Ford]

I'm surprised that the right wing hasn't yet found anything in Nichols' past they can use to paint him as a "thug" or "criminal" who maybe deserved his fate.

They do it with every single extrajudicial killing without fail. It's like clockwork.

 

[Patooka]

The fact that it is black on black is not good indicative of a better society occuring.

An argument can be made that because it was black on black this is the only reason justice is being swiftly carried out. If there was a single white cop there would have had union involvement.


Because I hate myself I lurk around a couple of conservative forums and here are a few quotes;

And the question remains ... WHY DID HE RUN ???

Blacks Run that's what they do

The DemonRat party have put distrust in Blacks minds about law enforcement, the DemonRat Party is Evil as f*ck. They want these cops to beat Blacks and kill them as they run, fits into their sick Narrative that this country especially Cops are RACISTS!!!

Can't help but notice they wait until a Friday night to release the vid and prep the media to get ready for riots. Why not Monday morning? Tuckers entire show was dedicated to the expected riots with cameras at the ready in NYC showing the gathering mobs and I'm sure other networks were/are doing the same thing.

I refuse to watch any more of it. The cops screwed up and should be tried and punished, period. There is no reason to fire up the country for the potential of billions of dollars in damage................again.

IDK, I think they were setting an example to future perps of what you'll get when you resist, had he took his medicine like a man instead of resisting and whiny sniffly screaming for his mommy to help he'd be alive today.

Didn't modify any of those quotes. And they weren't the worse ones. For a lot of people, property is more important to people and any form of resistance should get you the death penalty.

 

[Derec]

So yet another death from a police beating in the USA.
Why do you people hate each other so much?

Are you suggesting the five cops were like this officer?

I cannot understand why the police stopping a car should result in a death?

It shouldn't. That's why the officers are being charged. Although murder is much - it really should be manslaughter.

From what we hear/see in Australia it would seem that police stop a vehicle, assume trouble and then go nuclear.
Are there any polite, calm police in the US?

Sure. For the most part. As long as you are polite to them. As Chris Rock said, if they have to come get you, they are usually bringing a beating with them.
Doesn't justify what happened, of course. On the other hand, if you don't do stupid shit, chances of you dying at the hands of police has gone down by orders of magnitude, regardless of your race.

The fact that it is black on black is not good indicative of a better society occuring.

Black police chief too.

 

[Derec]

I'm surprised that the right wing hasn't yet found anything in Nichols' past they can use to paint him as a "thug" or "criminal" who maybe deserved his fate.

By all accounts, he was not a thug. But that raises the question: why did he run?
It seems that the trope in the black community that black people should run from police did this man a big disservice.

They do it with every single extrajudicial killing without fail. It's like clockwork.

Police shootings and other killings are by definition "extrajudicial". Nevertheless, vast majority of police killing are justified.

 

[TSwizzle]

I watched some of a video that appeared to be recorded from an elevated position overlooking the scene. It really is sickening to see.

 

[Oleg]

I cannot understand why the police stopping a car should result in a death?

The dehumanizing of police in the last few years has likely dissuaded good candidates from opting for police work. So, you gotta scrape the bottom of the barrel.

Memphis cops charged in Tyre Nichols murder hired after PD relaxed job requirements

Tadarrius Bean and Demetrius Haley both joined the Memphis Police Department two years after the department loosened education qualifications.

nypost.com

 

[bilby]

And the question remains ... WHY DID HE RUN ???

"Cuddy had only been a guard for a few days, but already he had absorbed one important and basic fact: it is almost impossible for anyone to be in a street without breaking the law. There are a whole quiverful of offenses available to a policeman who wishes to pass the time of day with a citizen, ranging from Loitering with Intent, through Obstruction, to Lingering While Being the Wrong Color/Shape/Species/Sex. It occurred briefly to him that anyone NOT making a dash for it when they saw Detritus knuckling along at high speed behind them was probably guilty of contravening the Being Bloody Stupid Act of 1581. But it was too late to take that into account. Someone was running, and they were chasing. They were chasing because he was running, and he was running because they were chasing." - Terry Pratchett, Men at Arms

 

[barbos]

What a country!

 

[Politesse]

Why do you people hate each other so much?

Racism and class violence.

 

[thebeave]

Why do you people hate each other so much?

Racism and class violence.

In the Tyre Nichols case? Five black men beating up another black man? Do all five black police officers hate black people, and that's why they did it? Or is their some "behind the scenes" racisim involving non-blacks to explain the situation? And if so, what is the other race responsible? Chinese? Native American? White? Pacific Islander?

 

[Toni]

So yet another death from a police beating in the USA.
Why do you people hate each other so much?

Are you suggesting the five cops were like this officer?

I cannot understand why the police stopping a car should result in a death?

It shouldn't. That's why the officers are being charged. Although murder is much - it really should be manslaughter.

From what we hear/see in Australia it would seem that police stop a vehicle, assume trouble and then go nuclear.
Are there any polite, calm police in the US?

Sure. For the most part. As long as you are polite to them. As Chris Rock said, if they have to come get you, they are usually bringing a beating with them.
Doesn't justify what happened, of course. On the other hand, if you don't do stupid shit, chances of you dying at the hands of police has gone down by orders of magnitude, regardless of your race.

The fact that it is black on black is not good indicative of a better society occuring.

Black police chief too.

There is NO way that these officers should not have been charged with murder. I have not bothered to look at Tennessee statutes for murder and manslaughter but if these were just 5 guys beating on some other guy, they definitely would have been charged with murder. IMO, the fact that it was 5 police officers makes it worse, not better.

 

[Toni]

Why do you people hate each other so much?

Racism and class violence.

I'd say just racism and violence.

It's amped up by the media, everything from news media to social media to music/film/games. Because everyone who wants to make money in media or off of media knows that 2 things are guaranteed to sell: sex and violence.

Add in race and add in drugs and well, you've just amped things up really high.
Look at who is getting elected to national offices these days.

 

[Toni]

Why do you people hate each other so much?

Racism and class violence.

In the Tyre Nichols case? Five black men beating up another black man? Do all five black police officers hate black people, and that's why they did it? Or is their some "behind the scenes" racisim involving non-blacks to explain the situation? And if so, what is the other race responsible? Chinese? Native American? White? Pacific Islander?

I typed a completely different answer out and just deleted it because I looked at Facebook and saw the following quote here:

"From the time you were very little, you've had people who have smiled you into smiling, people who have talked you into talking, sung you into singing, loved you into loving. So, let's take some time to think of those extra special people. Some of them may be right here, some may be far away. Some may even be in heaven. No matter where they are, deep down, you know they've always wanted what was best for you. They've always cared about you beyond measure and have encouraged you to be true to the best within you. Let's just take a minute of silence to think about those people now." -- Fred Rogers

Regardless of your beliefs about god and heaven or what you think about Fred Rogers, it is a fact that people do smile each other into smiling, talk you into talking. When people are singing, we want to join in.

Sadly, tragically, infuriatingly, the same hold true of hate.

 

[Toni]

(Suprised that no-one has started a thread yet it seems)

So yet another death from a police beating in the USA.
Why do you people hate each other so much?

I cannot understand why the police stopping a car should result in a death?
From what we hear/see in Australia it would seem that police stop a vehicle, assume trouble and then go nuclear.
Are there any polite, calm police in the US?

The fact that it is black on black is not good indicative of a better society occuring.

In the US, the media covers such crimes by police. They have not always but more recently, they have.

I don't remember where you are from but I do know that there are a number of posters here from Australia. The difference seems to be that in the US, the media reports such happenings. Apparently the media is more quiet in Australia and I suspect in other countries:

Why We Don’t Hear About Australian Police Brutality & What You Can Do About It

The Indigenous people killed by police in Australia

After recent acquittals of police officers, Indigenous Australians ask ‘when are they going to stop killing us?’

www.aljazeera.com

Aboriginal activists in Australia fight back against police brutality

Australia's aboriginal activists are using the momentum of the anti-police brutality movement in the U.S. to fight for justice.

abcnews.go.com

Australia had a record number of police shootings in the past year. Should we be concerned?

There are signs Australian police have moved away from community service towards more enforcement – this is a troubling development.

theconversation.com

 

[Politesse]

Why do you people hate each other so much?

Racism and class violence.

In the Tyre Nichols case? Five black men beating up another black man? Do all five black police officers hate black people, and that's why they did it? Or is their some "behind the scenes" racisim involving non-blacks to explain the situation? And if so, what is the other race responsible? Chinese? Native American? White? Pacific Islander?

He asked why we all hate each other so much. Those are the usual reasons. Your frothing response is not disproving my assertion.

 

[Rhea]

Is it too hard to understand that systemic racism results in a lot of people; deliberate racists who feel emboldened, subconscious racists who feel validated, unconscious racists who feel normalized, and non-racists who are habitualized - all to act in ways that are rooted in the systemic racism that they see?

 

[thebeave]

Why do you people hate each other so much?

Racism and class violence.

In the Tyre Nichols case? Five black men beating up another black man? Do all five black police officers hate black people, and that's why they did it? Or is their some "behind the scenes" racisim involving non-blacks to explain the situation? And if so, what is the other race responsible? Chinese? Native American? White? Pacific Islander?

He asked why we all hate each other so much. Those are the usual reasons. Your frothing response is not disproving my assertion.

Sorry about the frothing * wipes up keyboard with towel*. Yeah, I guess you were speaking in generalities about hate, but the OP is about the Tyre Nichols case in particular, which your answer doesn't seem to address. To me, the Tyree case looks to be about some police officers with anger issues, sadistic tendencies and on a power trip. They should never have been cops in the first place.

 

[ZiprHead]

Why do you people hate each other so much?

Racism and class violence.

I believe the police are a class of themselves.

 

[Politesse]

Why do you people hate each other so much?

Racism and class violence.

In the Tyre Nichols case? Five black men beating up another black man? Do all five black police officers hate black people, and that's why they did it? Or is their some "behind the scenes" racisim involving non-blacks to explain the situation? And if so, what is the other race responsible? Chinese? Native American? White? Pacific Islander?

He asked why we all hate each other so much. Those are the usual reasons. Your frothing response is not disproving my assertion.

Sorry about the frothing * wipes up keyboard with towel*. Yeah, I guess you were speaking in generalities about hate, but the OP is about the Tyre Nichols case in particular, which your answer doesn't seem to address. To me, the Tyree case looks to be about some police officers with anger issues, sadistic tendencies and on a power trip. They should never have been cops in the first place.

I don't see the horror show that is American policing as disconnected from the usual sources of Ameeican ire. You can only find so many bsd apples before you start wondering whether something has gone awry with the batch.