Sounds like this thread is not about the proper definition of 'faith' but of 'evidence."
That's what everybody else wants to debate. I believe their argument is that religious people are too stupid and crazy to have good evidence for what they believe, so their evidence is no evidence.
I must conclude that many atheists literally fear that many religious people do have the evidence they say they have
Ask ten astronomers when the sun will rise tomorrow, and you'll get one answer.
Uh--the time of sunrise depends on your location. You know--the earth is a big ball that turns on its axis, and the light from the sun starts to shine on the earth at different times.
Ask ten physicists the atomic weight of a hydrogen atom, and you'll get one answer. Ask ten biologists what species is man, and you'll get one answer.
Ask eleven scientists what energy is, and they'll tell you they don't know. And don't get me started about their disagreements in cosmology.
And the reason they all agree is not because they have faith in their convictions.
I see you're another faith denier.
Ask ten religious people what God really wants people to do, and you'll get at least ten answers. Maybe fifteen or twenty. If religious people have reliable solid evidence for what they believe, then one would expect they would agree on the basics.
I just don't know who's saying the religious have good evidence for what they believe. It looks like you guys are having visions.
Anyway, I think I understand now why so few people are atheists--they've read what the atheists on this thread are posting. That part you posted about astronomers giving one time for sunrise--if seen as atheism--would make anybody a theist.