Are there any "true" atheists?

[Unknown Soldier]

I'm not sure what to make of this post. Is it a joke? Is it a trap of some kind? One thing's for sure; this forum is bizarre. It turns the truth inside out and upside down. And if I dare point that out, then I'm threatened with punishment.

What specifically have you been threatened with?

Here's what one charmer here had to say to me:

You have an opinion. Opinions are like arseholes; Everyone has one, and they're often full of shit.

I have a right to die at the time and in the circumstances of my choosing, as does everyone else; And if you stand in the way of my right to my own fucking life, I will drive right on over you.

Who the hell do you think you are, making pontifical pronouncements about the lives of complete strangers?

Of course, as time goes by and I point out this fact again, you will ask: "Threatened you? What do you mean? Who ever threatened you?"

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

I'm not sure what to make of this post. Is it a joke? Is it a trap of some kind? One thing's for sure; this forum is bizarre. It turns the truth inside out and upside down. And if I dare point that out, then I'm threatened with punishment.

What specifically have you been threatened with?

Here's what one charmer here had to say to me:

You have an opinion. Opinions are like arseholes; Everyone has one, and they're often full of shit.

I have a right to die at the time and in the circumstances of my choosing, as does everyone else; And if you stand in the way of my right to my own fucking life, I will drive right on over you.

Who the hell do you think you are, making pontifical pronouncements about the lives of complete strangers?

Of course, as time goes by and I point out this fact again, you will ask: "Threatened you? What to you mean? Who ever threatened you?"

You probably should have bolded this part:
"if you stand in the way of my right to my own fucking life"

It's like if you try to enslave or kill someone, do they have a right to get out of it by ignoring your safety when needed.

It's off-topic though from your op that you already conceded.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

It's off-topic though from your op that you already conceded.

I've yet to see any good evidence that atheists can have no theism in them. Prophecies from on high to be believed on faith to the contrary don't count as good evidence.

 

[TomC]

I've yet to see any good evidence that atheists can have no theism in them.

Why not?
We're over 250 posts on this thread alone. You still don't see evidence that atheists exist.

Why do you keep bothering with the thread if you don't believe what we tell you about ourselves?
Tom

 

[Shadowy Man]

It's off-topic though from your op that you already conceded.

I've yet to see any good evidence that atheists can have no theism in them.

Are there theists who call themselves atheist? Yes, likely.

Are there atheists who call themselves atheist?
Yes, also. At least we think so.

You are saying you only believe in the former and not the latter. therefore anyone who calls themselves an atheist is either a liar or delusional. Right?

Either that or the word atheist means something different than what everyone here thinks it means.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

I've yet to see any good evidence that atheists can have no theism in them.

Why not?
We're over 250 posts on this thread alone. You still don't see evidence that atheists exist.

Uh, no, Tom; I didn't say I've seen no evidence that atheists exist. Read what I formatted in bold. What about atheists that I have no good evidence for am I emphasizing?

Why do you keep bothering with the thread if you don't believe what we tell you about ourselves?
Tom

I'm kept busy responding to your posts. After all, if everything you post is true, then I darned well better read it! Right?

So strange--you keep posting on this thread only to complain about the thread's length. It's all a joke on your part.
Right?

 

[Unknown Soldier]

It's off-topic though from your op that you already conceded.

I've yet to see any good evidence that atheists can have no theism in them.

Are there theists who call themselves atheist? Yes, likely.

Are there atheists who call themselves atheist?
Yes, also. At least we think so.

You are saying you only believe in the former and not the latter.

I never said nor implied that there are theists who call themselves atheists. I said that since some theists have doubts that God exists, then they are atheist/theist hybrids.

therefore anyone who calls themselves an atheist is either a liar or delusional. Right?

Wrong. It doesn't follow that if there are theists who call themselves atheists, then all self-described atheists are lying or are delusional.

I've never seen such knotted logic in my life.

 

[Shadowy Man]

It's off-topic though from your op that you already conceded.

I've yet to see any good evidence that atheists can have no theism in them.

Are there theists who call themselves atheist? Yes, likely.

Are there atheists who call themselves atheist?
Yes, also. At least we think so.

You are saying you only believe in the former and not the latter.

I never said nor implied that there are theists who call themselves atheists. I said that since some theists have doubts that God exists, then they are atheist/theist hybrids.

therefore anyone who calls themselves an atheist is either a liar or delusional. Right?

Wrong. It doesn't follow that if there are theists who call themselves atheists, then all self-described atheists are lying or are delusional.

I've never seen such knotted logic in my life.

You are twisting what I said. I agree that “it doesn’t follow that if there are theists who call themselves atheists then all self-describes atheists are laying or delusional.”

I said that if there are no atheists without theism (as you claim) then atheists who call themselves atheists are either liars or delusional.

But. I think the reason we are arguing past each other is that you define the word “atheist” differently than I do. According to my definition, atheists have no theism by definition. If a person doesn’t believe in god I would apply the word “atheist”. If they do, even a little, I wouldn’t use that word and would call them a theist instead.

It seems you have a problem with this simple dichotomy and this why we are having problems communicating.

 

[Shadowy Man]

This is just tiring so i think I’ll call it quits here. Good day.

 

[bilby]

I'm not sure what to make of this post. Is it a joke? Is it a trap of some kind? One thing's for sure; this forum is bizarre. It turns the truth inside out and upside down. And if I dare point that out, then I'm threatened with punishment.

What specifically have you been threatened with?

Here's what one charmer here had to say to me:

You have an opinion. Opinions are like arseholes; Everyone has one, and they're often full of shit.

I have a right to die at the time and in the circumstances of my choosing, as does everyone else; And if you stand in the way of my right to my own fucking life, I will drive right on over you.

Who the hell do you think you are, making pontifical pronouncements about the lives of complete strangers?

Of course, as time goes by and I point out this fact again, you will ask: "Threatened you? What do you mean? Who ever threatened you?"

That's only a threat if you are planning to stand in the way of my right to my own fucking life.

And if you are planning to do that, you're making a bigger threat than the one made in response to yours.

Goose sauce is gander sauce. You are not special, different, or entitled to more rights than anyone else here.

Grow the fuck up.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

It's off-topic though from your op that you already conceded.

I've yet to see any good evidence that atheists can have no theism in them.

Other than atheists exist and insist they don't. And you are making the claim and are the one that needs to defend your assertion that we are lying.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

I'm willing to concede that there are at least some true atheists who completely lack theistic beliefs, ...
...
...

Then later,

I've yet to see any good evidence that atheists can have no theism in them.

Speaking of cognitive dissonance, Unknown Soldier has contradictory beliefs.

Will he use logic to rid himself of the belief that makes no sense or will he forever be stuck in a state of contradiction?

Stay tuned for our next episode of

This Is the Thread That Never Ends.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

It is one of those "I'm here with a question" searching for knowledge OPs but was just a veiled "I made a contradiction, bow to it!" thread.

 

[James Brown]

I'm not sure what to make of this post. Is it a joke?

Curious. Because I initially thought the OP was a joke.

 

[ideologyhunter]

The OP is really, "Deep down, you're all just like me."

 

[steve_bank]

I understand if somebody wants to quit the thread.

Soldier is a formidable adversary. Unequaled skills in logic and debate.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

It's off-topic though from your op that you already conceded.

I've yet to see any good evidence that atheists can have no theism in them.

Other than atheists exist and insist they don't.

If I exist and say atheists do have some belief in God, then is that good evidence that I'm right?

And you are making the claim and are the one that needs to defend your assertion that we are lying.

Uh boy--I never said that anybody is lying, but that persistent assertion that I am may be an admission of guilt.

 

[TomC]

If I exist and say atheists do have some belief in God, then is that good evidence that I'm right?

Only for you.
You might consider yourself good evidence that some people who self identify as atheist have some belief in a god. It's when you extrapolate that to anybody else you become wrong.
Your OP question was "Are there any true atheists?" The answer is resoundingly Yes. You may not be, by your own standards, but plenty of other people are, by their own standards.
Tom

 

[Unknown Soldier]

First Statement: I'm willing to concede that there are at least some true atheists who completely lack theistic beliefs, ...
...
...

Then later,

Second Statement: I've yet to see any good evidence that atheists can have no theism in them.

Speaking of cognitive dissonance, Unknown Soldier has contradictory beliefs.

Good try, but those two statements of mine aren't contradictory. A statement that contradicts the first statement would be the following:

C. I'm not willing to concede that there are at least some true atheists who completely lack theistic beliefs.

I would need to make the first statement and statement C at the same time, of course, for them to be contradictory. Anyway, the second statement does not take on the form of statement C and is therefore not contradicting the first statement. I can concede the possibility that there are true atheists without having good evidence for them while being perfectly consistent.

Will he use logic to rid himself of the belief that makes no sense or will he forever be stuck in a state of contradiction?

Stay tuned for our next episode of

Stay tuned to see if Don concedes that he was wrong when he accused me of contradicting myself.

This Is the Thread That Never Ends.

From a person whose posting in the thread continues.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

If I exist and say atheists do have some belief in God, then is that good evidence that I'm right?

Only for you.
You might consider yourself good evidence that some people who self identify as atheist have some belief in a god. It's when you extrapolate that to anybody else you become wrong.

I might be wrong.

Your OP question was "Are there any true atheists?" The answer is resoundingly Yes. You may not be, by your own standards, but plenty of other people are, by their own standards.
Tom

Is it correct that you accept as true all answers to your questions?