Is there a God of atheism?

[Emily Lake]

Note he used quotes in rebuttal. The original phrasing re corners on a circle had no quotations around on.

Prolly because he's a mathematician, and therefore very precise.

Trust me.
Tom

We are all mathematicians here. Trust me, too.

Hey now... some of us could technically call ourselves mathematicians. But I wouldn't have the hubris to do so, given that I've spent 25 years (holy cow, when did I get so old?) working as an actuary, and have never actually worked as a mathematician, despite the degrees.

I have qualifications from long ago, too, but I won't get into them. Most ppl on here have STEM qualifications or advanced skills.

Yep. I couldn't help but laugh at the "Trust me, I'm a mathematician". Like, yeah... but so are several others here, along with many other STEM degrees who actually work in those fields. None of us are impressed by a wet behind the ears greenhorn kid with a freshly minted bachelors.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Are there corners on a circle?

There can be four corners on a circle! (See the attached graphic.) In fact, you can put as many corners on a circle you want.

Anyway, this lesson isn't just about geometry; it's a lesson about opening the mind to all possibilities and giving up the strictures of absolutist thinking. We appear to limit ourselves unnecessarily both in insisting that circles cannot have corners and that atheists cannot have Gods.

A square within a circle does not make a circle with corners...

Circles in a sense are infinite sets of corner points (vertices) where each corner point is the intersection of a vertical leg of a right triangle and the hypotenuse of that right triangle. See the attached graphic. So as we can all see, a circle can be defined as an infinite set of corner points.

You really ought to either learn math or not make up assertions about it because you keep getting it wrong.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Are there corners on a circle?

There can be four corners on a circle! (See the attached graphic.) In fact, you can put as many corners on a circle you want.

Anyway, this lesson isn't just about geometry; it's a lesson about opening the mind to all possibilities and giving up the strictures of absolutist thinking. We appear to limit ourselves unnecessarily both in insisting that circles cannot have corners and that atheists cannot have Gods.

A square within a circle does not make a circle with corners...

Circles in a sense are infinite sets of corner points (vertices) where each corner point is the intersection of a vertical leg of a right triangle and the hypotenuse of that right triangle. See the attached graphic. So as we can all see, a circle can be defined as an infinite set of corner points.

You really ought to either learn math or not make up assertions about it because you keep getting it wrong.

A method of construction by an infinite set of corner points is not the same thing as a circle having corners.

 

[Shadowy Man]

Are there corners on a circle?

There can be four corners on a circle! (See the attached graphic.) In fact, you can put as many corners on a circle you want.

Anyway, this lesson isn't just about geometry; it's a lesson about opening the mind to all possibilities and giving up the strictures of absolutist thinking. We appear to limit ourselves unnecessarily both in insisting that circles cannot have corners and that atheists cannot have Gods.

A square within a circle does not make a circle with corners...

Circles in a sense are infinite sets of corner points (vertices) where each corner point is the intersection of a vertical leg of a right triangle and the hypotenuse of that right triangle. See the attached graphic. So as we can all see, a circle can be defined as an infinite set of corner points.

You really ought to either learn math or not make up assertions about it because you keep getting it wrong.

please define “corner”.

How many corners does a square have?

 

[DBT]

Are there corners on a circle?

There can be four corners on a circle! (See the attached graphic.) In fact, you can put as many corners on a circle you want.

Anyway, this lesson isn't just about geometry; it's a lesson about opening the mind to all possibilities and giving up the strictures of absolutist thinking. We appear to limit ourselves unnecessarily both in insisting that circles cannot have corners and that atheists cannot have Gods.

A square within a circle does not make a circle with corners...

Circles in a sense are infinite sets of corner points (vertices) where each corner point is the intersection of a vertical leg of a right triangle and the hypotenuse of that right triangle. See the attached graphic. So as we can all see, a circle can be defined as an infinite set of corner points.

You really ought to either learn math or not make up assertions about it because you keep getting it wrong.

Hilarious. Just a thought, maybe you should work on getting a grasp on basic logic.

 

[TomC]

Are there corners on a circle?

There can be four corners on a circle! (See the attached graphic.) In fact, you can put as many corners on a circle you want.

Anyway, this lesson isn't just about geometry; it's a lesson about opening the mind to all possibilities and giving up the strictures of absolutist thinking. We appear to limit ourselves unnecessarily both in insisting that circles cannot have corners and that atheists cannot have Gods.

A square within a circle does not make a circle with corners...

Circles in a sense are infinite sets of corner points (vertices) where each corner point is the intersection of a vertical leg of a right triangle and the hypotenuse of that right triangle. See the attached graphic. So as we can all see, a circle can be defined as an infinite set of corner points.

You really ought to either learn math or not make up assertions about it because you keep getting it wrong.

please define “corner”.

How many corners

'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less. ' 'The question is,' said Alice, 'whether you can make words mean so many different things. ' 'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master — that's all.”
Tom

 

[Shadowy Man]

Are there corners on a circle?

There can be four corners on a circle! (See the attached graphic.) In fact, you can put as many corners on a circle you want.

Anyway, this lesson isn't just about geometry; it's a lesson about opening the mind to all possibilities and giving up the strictures of absolutist thinking. We appear to limit ourselves unnecessarily both in insisting that circles cannot have corners and that atheists cannot have Gods.

A square within a circle does not make a circle with corners...

Circles in a sense are infinite sets of corner points (vertices) where each corner point is the intersection of a vertical leg of a right triangle and the hypotenuse of that right triangle. See the attached graphic. So as we can all see, a circle can be defined as an infinite set of corner points.

You really ought to either learn math or not make up assertions about it because you keep getting it wrong.

According to your logic a square is a circle because I can create a square from an infinite set of corner points where each corner point is the intersection of a vertical leg of a right triangle and the hypotenuse of that right triangle. See the attached graphic.



Most of us would define “corner” to only apply to points A, B, C, and D but according to your definition point F is a corner point too and thus every point on the square is a corner point.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

please define “corner”.

How many corners does a square have?

You brought up the whole business of "corner points." You tell us what corner points are.

 

[pood]

Are there corners on a circle?

There can be four corners on a circle! (See the attached graphic.) In fact, you can put as many corners on a circle you want.

Anyway, this lesson isn't just about geometry; it's a lesson about opening the mind to all possibilities and giving up the strictures of absolutist thinking. We appear to limit ourselves unnecessarily both in insisting that circles cannot have corners and that atheists cannot have Gods.

A square within a circle does not make a circle with corners...

Circles in a sense are infinite sets of corner points (vertices) where each corner point is the intersection of a vertical leg of a right triangle and the hypotenuse of that right triangle. See the attached graphic. So as we can all see, a circle can be defined as an infinite set of corner points.

You really ought to either learn math or not make up assertions about it because you keep getting it wrong.

According to your logic a square is a circle because I can create a square from an infinite set of corner points where each corner point is the intersection of a vertical leg of a right triangle and the hypotenuse of that right triangle. See the attached graphic.

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Most of us would define “corner” to only apply to points A, B, C, and D but according to your definition point F is a corner point too and thus every point on the square is a corner point.

Isn‘t it grand to be a “mathematician?”

 

[Emily Lake]

Are there corners on a circle?

There can be four corners on a circle! (See the attached graphic.) In fact, you can put as many corners on a circle you want.

Anyway, this lesson isn't just about geometry; it's a lesson about opening the mind to all possibilities and giving up the strictures of absolutist thinking. We appear to limit ourselves unnecessarily both in insisting that circles cannot have corners and that atheists cannot have Gods.

A square within a circle does not make a circle with corners...

Circles in a sense are infinite sets of corner points (vertices) where each corner point is the intersection of a vertical leg of a right triangle and the hypotenuse of that right triangle. See the attached graphic. So as we can all see, a circle can be defined as an infinite set of corner points.

You really ought to either learn math or not make up assertions about it because you keep getting it wrong.

So yeah... you're substituting riemann approximations to a curve for actual curves. It's a great way to get the development of calculus, but it's a flawed attempt to remake math into a tool for your argument. A curve has no corners, it has no vertices. It's a smooth, continuous curve. Any envisioning of vertices in a curve is a failure of your ability to conceptualize it.

 

[Emily Lake]

Are there corners on a circle?

There can be four corners on a circle! (See the attached graphic.) In fact, you can put as many corners on a circle you want.

Anyway, this lesson isn't just about geometry; it's a lesson about opening the mind to all possibilities and giving up the strictures of absolutist thinking. We appear to limit ourselves unnecessarily both in insisting that circles cannot have corners and that atheists cannot have Gods.

A square within a circle does not make a circle with corners...

Circles in a sense are infinite sets of corner points (vertices) where each corner point is the intersection of a vertical leg of a right triangle and the hypotenuse of that right triangle. See the attached graphic. So as we can all see, a circle can be defined as an infinite set of corner points.

You really ought to either learn math or not make up assertions about it because you keep getting it wrong.

A method of construction by an infinite set of corner points is not the same thing as a circle having corners.

It's pretty much like insisting that the area under a curve is "really truly for realsies" the sum of the areas of a series of very thin rectangles.

US is mistaking day one intro calc with the actuality of curves.

 

[Emily Lake]

please define “corner”.

How many corners does a square have?

You brought up the whole business of "corner points." You tell us what corner points are.

YOU'RE THE SUPPOSED MATHEMATICIAN AND YOU ALREADY SAID WE SHOULD LEARN FROM YOU

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Are there corners on a circle?

There can be four corners on a circle! (See the attached graphic.) In fact, you can put as many corners on a circle you want.

Anyway, this lesson isn't just about geometry; it's a lesson about opening the mind to all possibilities and giving up the strictures of absolutist thinking. We appear to limit ourselves unnecessarily both in insisting that circles cannot have corners and that atheists cannot have Gods.

A square within a circle does not make a circle with corners...

Circles in a sense are infinite sets of corner points (vertices) where each corner point is the intersection of a vertical leg of a right triangle and the hypotenuse of that right triangle. See the attached graphic. So as we can all see, a circle can be defined as an infinite set of corner points.

You really ought to either learn math or not make up assertions about it because you keep getting it wrong.

According to your logic a square is a circle because I can create a square from an infinite set of corner points where each corner point is the intersection of a vertical leg of a right triangle and the hypotenuse of that right triangle. See the attached graphic.

View attachment 44636

Most of us would define “corner” to only apply to points A, B, C, and D but according to your definition point F is a corner point too and thus every point on the square is a corner point.

Sure, you can define a square as an infinite set of corner points that way, but obviously it's a set of corner points that differs from any infinite set of corner points that make up a circle. I attached the diagram to let everybody know what type of set of points I'm referring to. Did you see the diagram I attached?

Let's take a look at our logic:

I said: "...a circle can be defined as an infinite set of corner points."
You responded: "According to your logic a square is a circle because I can create a square from an infinite set of corner points where each corner point is the intersection of a vertical leg of a right triangle and the hypotenuse of that right triangle."

While it is true that you can inscribe right triangles in a square, it does not falsify what I said about doing so in circles. Just because you can come up with a set of corner points that make up a square, in no way does that prove there can be no corner points in a circle!

So what you're arguing with your square is irrelevant to my demonstration of the points of a circle being corner points. It's like arguing that I'm wrong that cats are furry because dogs are furry too.

 

[Emily Lake]

Are there corners on a circle?

There can be four corners on a circle! (See the attached graphic.) In fact, you can put as many corners on a circle you want.

Anyway, this lesson isn't just about geometry; it's a lesson about opening the mind to all possibilities and giving up the strictures of absolutist thinking. We appear to limit ourselves unnecessarily both in insisting that circles cannot have corners and that atheists cannot have Gods.

A square within a circle does not make a circle with corners...

Circles in a sense are infinite sets of corner points (vertices) where each corner point is the intersection of a vertical leg of a right triangle and the hypotenuse of that right triangle. See the attached graphic. So as we can all see, a circle can be defined as an infinite set of corner points.

You really ought to either learn math or not make up assertions about it because you keep getting it wrong.

According to your logic a square is a circle because I can create a square from an infinite set of corner points where each corner point is the intersection of a vertical leg of a right triangle and the hypotenuse of that right triangle. See the attached graphic.

View attachment 44636

Most of us would define “corner” to only apply to points A, B, C, and D but according to your definition point F is a corner point too and thus every point on the square is a corner point.

Sure, you can define a square as an infinite set of corner points that way, but obviously it's a set of corner points that differs from any infinite set of corner points that make up a circle. I attached the diagram to let everybody know what type of set of points I'm referring to. Did you see the diagram I attached?

Let's take a look at our logic:

I said: "...a circle can be defined as an infinite set of corner points."
You responded: "According to your logic a square is a circle because I can create a square from an infinite set of corner points where each corner point is the intersection of a vertical leg of a right triangle and the hypotenuse of that right triangle."

While it is true that you can inscribe right triangles in a square, it does not falsify what I said about doing so in circles. Just because you can come up with a set of corner points that make up a square, in no way does that prove there can be no corner points in a circle!

So what you're arguing with your square is irrelevant to my demonstration of the points of a circle being corner points. It's like arguing that I'm wrong that cats are furry because dogs are furry too.

You aren't actually very good at sophistry, you know. You're not at all convincing, and I kind of feel some second-hand embarrassment for you. I mean, clearly you should feel embarrassed at this point, but you're too wrapped up in yourself to be aware of that fact.

 

[pood]

You aren't actually very good at sophistry, you know. You're not at all convincing, and I kind of feel some second-hand embarrassment for you. I mean, clearly you should feel embarrassed at this point, but you're too wrapped up in yourself to be aware of that fact.

That is really the point, sophistry is exactly what he does here, in all the threads he starts. He’s like the guy in Lincoln’s classic word picture of the sophist: He’ll twist words around to prove that a horse chestnut is a chestnut horse.

 

[pood]

Circles are squares, atheists believe in God, scientists have faith just like the religious … wow, who knew?

 

[ideologyhunter]

I'm no mathematician. I was told that math skills were not a requisite on this site. I haven't seen so many circles, segments, and points since 9th grade geometry.
Please, can we get back to the Yo Mama jokes that Don2 and Emily Lake were doing on pages 6 and 7?

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

All you had to do was ask.

If your mom works in a circular building, she works on an infinite number of corners.

 

[DBT]

Are there corners on a circle?

There can be four corners on a circle! (See the attached graphic.) In fact, you can put as many corners on a circle you want.

Anyway, this lesson isn't just about geometry; it's a lesson about opening the mind to all possibilities and giving up the strictures of absolutist thinking. We appear to limit ourselves unnecessarily both in insisting that circles cannot have corners and that atheists cannot have Gods.

A square within a circle does not make a circle with corners...

Circles in a sense are infinite sets of corner points (vertices) where each corner point is the intersection of a vertical leg of a right triangle and the hypotenuse of that right triangle. See the attached graphic. So as we can all see, a circle can be defined as an infinite set of corner points.

You really ought to either learn math or not make up assertions about it because you keep getting it wrong.

According to your logic a square is a circle because I can create a square from an infinite set of corner points where each corner point is the intersection of a vertical leg of a right triangle and the hypotenuse of that right triangle. See the attached graphic.

View attachment 44636

Most of us would define “corner” to only apply to points A, B, C, and D but according to your definition point F is a corner point too and thus every point on the square is a corner point.

Sure, you can define a square as an infinite set of corner points that way, but obviously it's a set of corner points that differs from any infinite set of corner points that make up a circle. I attached the diagram to let everybody know what type of set of points I'm referring to. Did you see the diagram I attached?

Let's take a look at our logic:

I said: "...a circle can be defined as an infinite set of corner points."
You responded: "According to your logic a square is a circle because I can create a square from an infinite set of corner points where each corner point is the intersection of a vertical leg of a right triangle and the hypotenuse of that right triangle."

While it is true that you can inscribe right triangles in a square, it does not falsify what I said about doing so in circles. Just because you can come up with a set of corner points that make up a square, in no way does that prove there can be no corner points in a circle!

So what you're arguing with your square is irrelevant to my demonstration of the points of a circle being corner points. It's like arguing that I'm wrong that cats are furry because dogs are furry too.

How many 'corner points' are there in a straight line?

 

[Shadowy Man]

please define “corner”.

How many corners does a square have?

You brought up the whole business of "corner points." You tell us what corner points are.

If you don’t know what a corner point is why are you referring to it in your diagram of a circle? It appears it is common practice for you to make arguments using terms of which you don’t know the definitions.