California Doing California Things

[Loren Pechtel]

What should he do, in your opinion?

Resign.

Are you saying that would prevent wildfires somehow, or are you incapable of focusing on a topic for more than one post?

You asked a question, don't get all pissy when you get the answer. Newsom should resign because he is a fucking moron fixated on busllshit and can't govern. He is a failure at government.

What would that do?

The fires California are facing are simply beyond what can effectively be fought. When the fire winds blow safety lies in having a house completely screened from ignition points. In other words, building codes. Building codes the Republicans would hate. But the people who were pointing out the problems were treated as naysayers and not allowed to stand in the way of developers making a buck.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

My literal question is:

What should Marxist Karen Bass, Gorgeous Gavin Newsom, and Sleepy Joe Biden do about the wildfire situation in California?

A literal answer would be most welcome.

Brandon can't do anything, he has checked out. He checked out a few days after his disastrous debate with Trump. Many would argue that Brandon checked out long before that but I will be kind. In any event, he will be out of office.

The other two clowns are supposed to govern. The first clown, Newsom is supposed to govern the state. He has failed spectacularly. Which is why he was the subject of a recall. Marxist Bass is another naked emperor. She too is supposed to govern. She has failed spectacularly on just about every issue we have in Los Angeles. Wildfires are nothing new in California.

Quit it with the Republicanism.

The question isn't whether he's competent or not. The question is what actions should be taken to deal with the problem?

Blaming the Democrats is not an answer unless you can provide a superior approach. So far we have seen the usual Republican "solution": blame the Democrats but do nothing.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Trump might try to confiscate it.

Not one fucking chance.
Quick check-

an estimated $135–$150 billion in damages,
… approximately 130,000 residents are under evacuation orders

Anything look unusual about that? Maybe those stats are bogus?
Is a million per evacuee par for the course?
I’m thinking there are a lot of high figure GQP donors affected, and Donny won’t want to ruffle them up. He won’t have to confiscate the money - his backers will just give it to him. You make a $5m claim on your $4m house, and when the smoke clears you give President Trump’s 2028 campaign the other million and everyone (who counts) is happy. Insurance rates go up nationwide, and billions more flow to the oligarchs.

The fires will have burned a lot more than just people's houses. A hell of a lot of infrastructure is also gone.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

I’m sure that if the government would try to invest the money it would take to prepare for such a fire they would be voted out for wasteful spending

For 10% of of the cost of the fire, they could have had a fire department that could put out the sun.

citation please. Thanks.

Yeah, the flame retardant to put out the sun would be pricey. Water would just evaporate in the vacuum of space. But maybe the question is "Why hasn't that prick Newsom developed a way to put out the sun?!"

Not only that, but there's literally nothing you could dump on the sun to put out the fire.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

I’m sure that if the government would try to invest the money it would take to prepare for such a fire they would be voted out for wasteful spending

For 10% of of the cost of the fire, they could have had a fire department that could put out the sun.

citation please. Thanks.

Yeah, the flame retardant to put out the sun would be pricey. Water would just evaporate in the vacuum of space. But maybe the question is "Why hasn't that prick Newsom developed a way to put out the sun?!"

Not only that, but there's literally nothing you could dump on the sun to put out the fire.

A lot of sand should do it.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

I’m thinking there are a lot of high figure GQP donors affected,

People living in $4M houses in LA are more likely to be Democrats though.

Depends which neighborhood. But yes, it is true that Democrats are usually more materially prosperous in life than their Republican counterparts. The latter should spend more time than they do pondering why that might be, instead of just pointlessly griping about it and throwing matches at our pretty houses.

Disagree. Republicans tend more towards the extremes. The poor are disproportionately Republican, the rich are disproportionately Republican. The middle class tends Democrat.

 

[Elixir]

Trump might try to confiscate it.

Not one fucking chance.
Quick check-

an estimated $135–$150 billion in damages,
… approximately 130,000 residents are under evacuation orders

Anything look unusual about that? Maybe those stats are bogus?
Is a million per evacuee par for the course?
I’m thinking there are a lot of high figure GQP donors affected, and Donny won’t want to ruffle them up. He won’t have to confiscate the money - his backers will just give it to him. You make a $5m claim on your $4m house, and when the smoke clears you give President Trump’s 2028 campaign the other million and everyone (who counts) is happy. Insurance rates go up nationwide, and billions more flow to the oligarchs.

The fires will have burned a lot more than just people's houses. A hell of a lot of infrastructure is also gone.

If there’s ever a breakdown of those costs, I’d really be interested. Surely there’s more infrastructure damage than say the Paradise fire which killed 85 people (ironically started by infrastructure) but is it a higher percentage of total dollar losses?

ETA: La fire costs including indirect economic impacts, environmental cleanup, and long-term recovery estimates, is expected to be around $275b and the Camp fire same estimate was about $430b.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

It would just be so terrible to complete a major infrastructure project successfully! Our Dark Age ancestors would be so ashamed of our ingenuity. And our impiety of course. Don't you know God hates human ambition?

You know the entire modern world except for the US uses train transit routinely, right? Hell, we killed our own train network, for stupid croney capitalist reasons that the average citizen ought not give a shit about because they never benefited from it. You really think we're better off for only having fucking Greyhound buses to get around on? I mean have you ever actually ridden on one? They're fucking terrible. Whereas the Coast Starlight is nice, and I'm sure the Acelas or whatever we buy for the high speed will be nice also.

I cannot get behind this regressive agenda for the country at all. A nation should have a future they are actively working toward, not just nostalgic and inaccurate memories of shit that they used to have.

1) Trains are a matter of density, they need high density to be a good deal. Few parts of the US have the needed density.

2) It's extremely expensive to run track to city centers. Thus the stations will be far enough out so as to defeat much of the benefit.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

It is obvious that I am in favor of building (and maintaining) reservoirs so who the fuck are you actually talking about

That's not obvious at all. It is obvious that you are in favor of building reservoirs. Not repairing and maintaining them, which as a rule your fellow conservatives are furiously opposed to doing. How was I supposed to know that you are in lockstep with the the Foxosphere/Dailymail on every single issue except that one?

So, just to be clear, do you believe that the state was not in error when it emptied the Santa Ynez reservoir to repair its damaged covering?

Building things mean big contracts for businesses. Maintaining them mostly is paying the workers.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

I’m sure that if the government would try to invest the money it would take to prepare for such a fire they would be voted out for wasteful spending

For 10% of of the cost of the fire, they could have had a fire department that could put out the sun.

citation please. Thanks.

Yeah, the flame retardant to put out the sun would be pricey. Water would just evaporate in the vacuum of space. But maybe the question is "Why hasn't that prick Newsom developed a way to put out the sun?!"

Not only that, but there's literally nothing you could dump on the sun to put out the fire.

A lot of sand should do it.

The mass will fall to the center, increase the gravity and cause the sun to burn hotter.

 

[Shadowy Man]

I’m sure that if the government would try to invest the money it would take to prepare for such a fire they would be voted out for wasteful spending

For 10% of of the cost of the fire, they could have had a fire department that could put out the sun.

citation please. Thanks.

Yeah, the flame retardant to put out the sun would be pricey. Water would just evaporate in the vacuum of space. But maybe the question is "Why hasn't that prick Newsom developed a way to put out the sun?!"

Not only that, but there's literally nothing you could dump on the sun to put out the fire.

A lot of sand should do it.

The mass will fall to the center, increase the gravity and cause the sun to burn hotter.

Not likely. Sand is mostly silicon and oxygen and it will be a long long time before the Sun is using those as an energy source.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

I’m sure that if the government would try to invest the money it would take to prepare for such a fire they would be voted out for wasteful spending

For 10% of of the cost of the fire, they could have had a fire department that could put out the sun.

citation please. Thanks.

Yeah, the flame retardant to put out the sun would be pricey. Water would just evaporate in the vacuum of space. But maybe the question is "Why hasn't that prick Newsom developed a way to put out the sun?!"

Not only that, but there's literally nothing you could dump on the sun to put out the fire.

A lot of sand should do it.

The mass will fall to the center, increase the gravity and cause the sun to burn hotter.

Clearly you aren't using enough sand.

 

[Elixir]

I’m sure that if the government would try to invest the money it would take to prepare for such a fire they would be voted out for wasteful spending

For 10% of of the cost of the fire, they could have had a fire department that could put out the sun.

citation please. Thanks.

Yeah, the flame retardant to put out the sun would be pricey. Water would just evaporate in the vacuum of space. But maybe the question is "Why hasn't that prick Newsom developed a way to put out the sun?!"

Not only that, but there's literally nothing you could dump on the sun to put out the fire.

You could smack it with a neutron star so hard that it would blow it to smithereens, which would lack the mass to sustain fusion.

 

[bilby]

I’m sure that if the government would try to invest the money it would take to prepare for such a fire they would be voted out for wasteful spending

For 10% of of the cost of the fire, they could have had a fire department that could put out the sun.

citation please. Thanks.

Yeah, the flame retardant to put out the sun would be pricey. Water would just evaporate in the vacuum of space. But maybe the question is "Why hasn't that prick Newsom developed a way to put out the sun?!"

Not only that, but there's literally nothing you could dump on the sun to put out the fire.

Sure there is. A black hole would do it. A neutron star of sufficient mass would too.

Both would make it briefly hotter, of course; But then, so does blowing out a candle, or using explosives to extinguish an oil well fire.

 

[Politesse]

I'm pretty offended that we're raising our flags today. Newsom is such a goddamned pushover.

 

[Politesse]

Sure there is. A black hole would do it. A neutron star of sufficient mass would too.

Get on it, CERN. Radiation is dangerous, and we've tolerated its largest local source for far too long.

 

[Elixir]

I'm pretty offended that we're raising our flags today. Newsom is such a goddamned pushover.

Waddya mean “we”?
Any kind of solemn acknowledgement coming from me today, will be in memory of MLK.

 

[Politesse]

I'm pretty offended that we're raising our flags today. Newsom is such a goddamned pushover.

Waddya mean “we”?
Any kind of solemn acknowledgement coming from me today, will be in memory of MLK.

California is raising its flags to honor Trump's inauguration (they've been at half mast since Jimmy Carter passed). King is not involved one way or the other, the country has abandoned his legacy altogether. Every black person of consequence is a "DEI hire" now, and soon to be unemployed in the name of fairness and equality for Whites, unless their employer can prove they were the most qualified candidate.

 

[bilby]

Sure there is. A black hole would do it. A neutron star of sufficient mass would too.

Get on it, CERN. Radiation is dangerous, and we've tolerated its largest local source for far too long.

There is a teeny tiny X-ray hazard associated with being only a couple of hundred million km from an actively accreting black hole.

However with a bit of luck, the gravitational distrubances caused by dropping a black hole on the Sun will hurl the Earth out of the system at considerable velocity, so we won't be that close for very long.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

I’m sure that if the government would try to invest the money it would take to prepare for such a fire they would be voted out for wasteful spending

For 10% of of the cost of the fire, they could have had a fire department that could put out the sun.

citation please. Thanks.

Yeah, the flame retardant to put out the sun would be pricey. Water would just evaporate in the vacuum of space. But maybe the question is "Why hasn't that prick Newsom developed a way to put out the sun?!"

Not only that, but there's literally nothing you could dump on the sun to put out the fire.

A lot of sand should do it.

The mass will fall to the center, increase the gravity and cause the sun to burn hotter.

Not likely. Sand is mostly silicon and oxygen and it will be a long long time before the Sun is using those as an energy source.

The sun can't ever burn either of those, but the extra mass will increase the pressure and thus require more energy to counter it.