Are we no better than Dogs?

[Ramaraksha]

Are you having some type of mental breakdown, Rama? Seriously. Based on some of your posts, it appears as if you are suffering from some kind of anxiety or emotional issues. You are preaching to a bunch of atheists about the nuttiness of the Christian beliefs. WTF! Unless Learner posted in this thread, you are preaching to a bunch of atheists. What in the world are you trying to accomplish with your rants? I'm not saying this to be mean, just trying to figure out what your problem is because you seem very irritated and you're not making a lot of sense.

So where should I post these views? In a Theist forum?
no wait, I must keep all this to myself, right?
So, to be honest, you are a Theist, correct?
All this anger, hate - stooping to personal insults - censorship of ideas that you do not like - can only come from a theist

southernhyrid is an atheist.

I see you’ve posted a lot of fresh nonsense, including more crap about dogs in a different thread. I’ll address it tomorrow. Bear in mind that you are talking mostly to atheists here.

Do you, or do you not, believe in literal reincarnation?

And not ONE WORD on his insults and abuse - NOT ONE!
I am trying to be the Adult in the room - stick to the gist of the post
No need to stoop to personal insults - but I don't think that will work
I am sure i will get more of it - at some point i will have to complain - this is not right

 

[WAB]

Ramaraksha, southernhybrid is definitely an atheist. And a she not a he. The majority of people you are yelling at are NOT theists, except for Learner. Please listen and pay attention.

 

[Ramaraksha]

You are preaching to a bunch of atheists about the nuttiness of the Christian beliefs. WTF! Unless Learner posted in this thread, you are preaching to a bunch of atheists. What in the world are you trying to accomplish with your rants? I'm not saying this to be mean, just trying to figure out what your problem is because you seem very irritated and you're not making a lot of sense.

You posted this thread - https://iidb.org/threads/the-emotional-and-physical-harm-of-religion.29131/#post-1256683
So YOU can rant about the nuttiness of religious beliefs?

 

[Ramaraksha]

Ramaraksha, southernhybrid is definitely an atheist. And a she not a he. The majority of people you are yelling at are NOT theists, except for Learner. Please listen and pay attention.

I am going by their reaction to my posts - why the anger? We are all here discussing about the harmful affects of religion
That is what I am doing as well
Why so much anger? To stoop to personal insults like she has done?
Whether we agree or disagree with a post - we need to stick to addressing the gist of the post
And not stoop to personal insults, i have refrained to give back because to me, that would be stooping to her level
So we call each other names - what does that do? It accomplishes nothing
The only think I can come up with is that she is not what she claims to be

 

[Ramaraksha]

Are you having some type of mental breakdown, Rama? Seriously. Based on some of your posts, it appears as if you are suffering from some kind of anxiety or emotional issues. You are preaching to a bunch of atheists about the nuttiness of the Christian beliefs. WTF! Unless Learner posted in this thread, you are preaching to a bunch of atheists. What in the world are you trying to accomplish with your rants? I'm not saying this to be mean, just trying to figure out what your problem is because you seem very irritated and you're not making a lot of sense.

We do have an emotional support section in this forum if you need to help dealing with stressful issues.

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And he ends his post with "Fuck Religion"
And you replied to him/her also
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So that person can rant also?
And so can you?

 

[bilby]

I am going by their reaction to my posts - why the anger?

I for one cannot understand how somebody you condescend to, misgender, and unjustly accuse of theism*, would be angry.

It's a total mystery.









* Despite your having access, as a member of this board, not only to their profile in which their "basic beliefs" are published, but also to a long history of postings where they clearly demonstrate their atheism, and openly display their gender.

 

[pood]

southernhyrid is an atheist.

Any fool can call himself anything
There are plenty of wolves in sheep's clothing
His anger, his mockery, personal insults - are not that of an Atheist, I am sorry

I see you’ve posted a lot of fresh nonsense, including more crap about dogs in a different thread. I’ll address it tomorrow. Bear in mind that you are talking mostly to atheists here.

Another Theist with an open mind

Do you, or do you not, believe in literal reincarnation?

I have answered this stupid question over and over!
THESE ARE IDEAS! Now i am shouting
Do you not understand what an Idea means?
And it does not matter what I believe - do not make this personal
I am here to discuss ideas and i seem to keep running into theists

Southernhybrid and I are atheists. Stop calling us liars.

You have said before that you believe Christians will be reincarnated as dogs, which you falsely characterize as a “lower life form,” and will be so reincarnated for the error of believing they will go to heaven after they die and be God’s “pets.” Therefore you believe in literal reincarnation, and you have as little evidence for that as Christians have for heaven.

 

[pood]

Are you having some type of mental breakdown, Rama? Seriously. Based on some of your posts, it appears as if you are suffering from some kind of anxiety or emotional issues. You are preaching to a bunch of atheists about the nuttiness of the Christian beliefs. WTF! Unless Learner posted in this thread, you are preaching to a bunch of atheists. What in the world are you trying to accomplish with your rants? I'm not saying this to be mean, just trying to figure out what your problem is because you seem very irritated and you're not making a lot of sense.

So where should I post these views? In a Theist forum?
no wait, I must keep all this to myself, right?
So, to be honest, you are a Theist, correct?
All this anger, hate - stooping to personal insults - censorship of ideas that you do not like - can only come from a theist

southernhyrid is an atheist.

I see you’ve posted a lot of fresh nonsense, including more crap about dogs in a different thread. I’ll address it tomorrow. Bear in mind that you are talking mostly to atheists here.

Do you, or do you not, believe in literal reincarnation?

And not ONE WORD on his insults and abuse - NOT ONE!
I am trying to be the Adult in the room - stick to the gist of the post
No need to stoop to personal insults - but I don't think that will work
I am sure i will get more of it - at some point i will have to complain - this is not right

 

[pood]

You are preaching to a bunch of atheists about the nuttiness of the Christian beliefs. WTF! Unless Learner posted in this thread, you are preaching to a bunch of atheists. What in the world are you trying to accomplish with your rants? I'm not saying this to be mean, just trying to figure out what your problem is because you seem very irritated and you're not making a lot of sense.

You posted this thread - https://iidb.org/threads/the-emotional-and-physical-harm-of-religion.29131/#post-1256683
So YOU can rant about the nuttiness of religious beliefs?

Can you eve read??

The post you linked clearly says SHE (not he) IS AN ATHEIST!

 

[southernhybrid]

southernhyrid is an atheist.

Any fool can call himself anything
There are plenty of wolves in sheep's clothing
His anger, his mockery, personal insults - are not that of an Atheist, I am sorry

I see you’ve posted a lot of fresh nonsense, including more crap about dogs in a different thread. I’ll address it tomorrow. Bear in mind that you are talking mostly to atheists here.

Another Theist with an open mind

Do you, or do you not, believe in literal reincarnation?

I have answered this stupid question over and over!
THESE ARE IDEAS! Now i am shouting
Do you not understand what an Idea means?
And it does not matter what I believe - do not make this personal
I am here to discuss ideas and i seem to keep running into theists

I am a female and a strong atheist, who left religion behind over 50 years ago. I have not insulted you. As a retired RN who has cared for many people suffering from depression and anxiety, I was just concerned about you based on how erratic many of your posts seemed to some of us. You may not realize it but you are the one who is insulting the rest of us. It's called projection.

Plus, you continue to make totally unsubstantiated claims about dogs. I haven't kept up with your latest posts, but I just noticed that you posted that puppies are taken away from their mothers when they are a few days old. Sorry, but that is one of the most nutty things you've said about dogs. Dogs nurse their puppies for at least 6 ro 8 weeks before they are independent enough to find new homes. I've had two dogs when I was young and careless that gave birth to puppies. The mother dog nursed them for over 2 months. I personally found good homes for all of the pups. The puppies from the second dog were adopted by nurses who I worked with at the time. I have two wonderful dog companions now, both were rescued, one from the street and one from a dog shelter. They love me and I love them. Not once have they seemed unhappy being a part of my family. They are both resting comfortably in the room with me and my husband as I write this. Dogs are best, but humans don't always treat them well.

 

[Ramaraksha]

I am going by their reaction to my posts - why the anger?

I for one cannot understand how somebody you condescend to, misgender, and unjustly accuse of theism*, would be angry.

It's a total mystery.









* Despite your having access, as a member of this board, not only to their profile in which their "basic beliefs" are published, but also to a long history of postings where they clearly demonstrate their atheism, and openly display their gender.

I didn't know here gender until it was pointed out to me
So basically you ignore her abusive post, calling me names, senile etc but find fault with me
I have not interacted with her before - this was her first post to me & it was a brutal personal attack
So ignore all that - i am condescending? oh wow! So sorry, what a horrible person I am
As for being theist - as I said I am going by her post

 

[Ramaraksha]

southernhyrid is an atheist.

Any fool can call himself anything
There are plenty of wolves in sheep's clothing
His anger, his mockery, personal insults - are not that of an Atheist, I am sorry

I see you’ve posted a lot of fresh nonsense, including more crap about dogs in a different thread. I’ll address it tomorrow. Bear in mind that you are talking mostly to atheists here.

Another Theist with an open mind

Do you, or do you not, believe in literal reincarnation?

I have answered this stupid question over and over!
THESE ARE IDEAS! Now i am shouting
Do you not understand what an Idea means?
And it does not matter what I believe - do not make this personal
I am here to discuss ideas and i seem to keep running into theists

I am a female and a strong atheist, who left religion behind over 50 years ago. I have not insulted you. As a retired RN who has cared for many people suffering from depression and anxiety, I was just concerned about you based on how erratic many of your posts seemed to some of us. You may not realize it but you are the one who is insulting the rest of us. It's called projection.

Plus, you continue to make totally unsubstantiated claims about dogs. I haven't kept up with your latest posts, but I just noticed that you posted that puppies are taken away from their mothers when they are a few days old. Sorry, but that is one of the most nutty things you've said about dogs. Dogs nurse their puppies for at least 6 ro 8 weeks before they are independent enough to find new homes. I've had two dogs when I was young and careless that gave birth to puppies. The mother dog nursed them for over 2 months. I personally found good homes for all of the pups. The puppies from the second dog were adopted by nurses who I worked with at the time. I have two wonderful dog companions now, both were rescued, one from the street and one from a dog shelter. They love me and I love them. Not once have they seemed unhappy being a part of my family. They are both resting comfortably in the room with me and my husband as I write this. Dogs are best, but humans don't always treat them well.

YOU HAVE NOT INSULTED ME? HELLO! You called me names, called me senile!
So posting my views is now considered an insult to you because you don't agree with it!
It does not work the other way? Those who don't agree with YOUR views, can we say it is an insult?
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You can disagree with my views on Dogs - that is your right - but that is what living in a democracy means
But you need to respect other views
What YOU or YOUR FAMILY did is admirable - but to say EVERYONE DOES THE SAME? EXCUSE ME?
I am a dog lover myself - have worked in shelters
These dogs do not belong there - they are there because we want pets - we have taken away from their natural habitat
and made them our dependents - now they can't survive without us & so end up in shelters, to be put down if no one adopts them
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Consider life from the Dog's viewpoint - it is a helpless dependent
Confined to the home, to go out, it is put on a leash
Would you eat the same food every day? The dog does
As I age, I find myself going more often - the poor dog has to hold it unless there is a backyard
What about family? WE get to have families, children, loved ones
The Dog must make do with an alien life?
The dog does know that it is not with its own kind
In the wild, dogs have families, bring up their kids
With us, most male dogs do not even know they have had kids
And the females, MUST give up their kids? They must not have families
YOU decide how long they must enjoy their kids?
Would you like it if you had a child and were told you can only keep it for 6-8 weeks?
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And plenty of dogs are mistreated, abused, beaten and they can do nothing about it
And if the owner decides that he/she does not want this dog, out it goes
Some leave it in the street, others dump them in shelters
I saw plenty of Pitbulls - cute as puppies, but once they grow big, they are very strong
The owner cannot handle them - they are cute no more
So dump them in shelters!
.
This is not a life that they chose - we force this life on them
They need to live just like any wild animal - hunt for food, have a family, bring up their kids, deal with dangers on their own

 

[Ramaraksha]

You are preaching to a bunch of atheists about the nuttiness of the Christian beliefs. WTF! Unless Learner posted in this thread, you are preaching to a bunch of atheists. What in the world are you trying to accomplish with your rants? I'm not saying this to be mean, just trying to figure out what your problem is because you seem very irritated and you're not making a lot of sense.

You posted this thread - https://iidb.org/threads/the-emotional-and-physical-harm-of-religion.29131/#post-1256683
So YOU can rant about the nuttiness of religious beliefs?

Can you eve read??

The post you linked clearly says SHE (not he) IS AN ATHEIST!

Can YOU read? I am going by her anger - plenty of wolves in sheep's clothing
SHE posted why I am posting against religion in this forum!
I gave her a link where she was posting against religion
I have her another link where she replied to a guy who posted against religion - ended his post with "F Religion"
She had no problem with it!
But this was her first post to me - full of abuse and hate
But you ignore ALL that?

 

[Elixir]

So sorry, what a horrible person I am

Self flagellation will get you everywhere.

Is there any atheist here you have NOT accused of the crime of theism?
Perhaps you should TRY learning about people before attempting to pigeonhole them.
Just sayin' ...
Over six hundred posts later, you're only re-reading your own crap.
Southernhybrid is perhaps the most compassionate poster you're gonna find here.
If you can't get along with her, you are indeed a hopeless case.

I am going by her anger

No you're not; you're gazing at your own reflection.
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[Ramaraksha]

Southernhybrid and I are atheists. Stop calling us liars.

You have said before that you believe Christians will be reincarnated as dogs, which you falsely characterize as a “lower life form,” and will be so reincarnated for the error of believing they will go to heaven after they die and be God’s “pets.” Therefore you believe in literal reincarnation, and you have as little evidence for that as Christians have for heaven.

So I must take her abuse, calling me names - THAT you ignore!
I post what Hinduism says - we can discuss what religions say without having to believe in them
Christians & Muslims want Heaven - they will get it but it is here on earth - that is what Hinduism is saying
A different view, a different perspective is needed
.
My main fight is with religious hate - the carrot of Heaven dangled in front of people and then urging them to
go hate Unbelievers
I see so much hate against Atheists and people of other faiths
And the way to combat it is to raise questions about Heaven - it is not what it is cracked up to be
.
But I think with the concept of Heaven is where I lose Atheists
They say Buddhism is an Atheist religion - but Buddhists also believe in Heaven & Hell
.
So my question to you - do you believe in Heaven & Hell?

 

[Ramaraksha]

So sorry, what a horrible person I am

Self flagellation will get you everywhere.

Is there any atheist here you have NOT accused of the crime of theism?
Perhaps you should TRY learning about people before attempting to pigeonhole them.
Just sayin' ...
Over six hundred posts later, you're only re-reading your own crap.
Southernhybrid is perhaps the most compassionate poster you're gonna find here.
If you can't get along with her, you are indeed a hopeless case.

I am going by her anger

No you're not; you're gazing at your own reflection.

This was her FIRST post! I had not interacted with her before & she started by calling me Senile
I needed psychiatric help!
That was abuse! A total personal attack!
I will report her - I don't have to take that
RESPOND to my views - that is allowed - but to openly attack a member for his/her views is wrong
.
So total abuse calling me senile is ok but to accuse someone of being a Theist is not acceptable?
wow!
Some morals you have there

 

[Elixir]

This was her FIRST post!

As you could plainly see if you looked, that was her TEN THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED AND EIGHTY FIFTH post.
It was her first post addressed to YOU - which is all that matters to YOU.

There was plenty of material that could have informed you of who you were trying to put down, but you're too busy randomly lashing out, to consider anyone but yourself.

So total abuse calling me senile is ok but to accuse someone of being a Theist is not acceptable?

You're still here complaining aren't you? My advice: GET OVER YOURSELF!

SoHy could teach you a whole lot about how to deal with theists, if you gave a fuck about being effective.

 

[Ramaraksha]

Are you having some type of mental breakdown, Rama? Seriously. Based on some of your posts, it appears as if you are suffering from some kind of anxiety or emotional issues. You are preaching to a bunch of atheists about the nuttiness of the Christian beliefs. WTF! Unless Learner posted in this thread, you are preaching to a bunch of atheists. What in the world are you trying to accomplish with your rants? I'm not saying this to be mean, just trying to figure out what your problem is because you seem very irritated and you're not making a lot of sense.

We do have an emotional support section in this forum if you need to help dealing with stressful issues.

And, for the love of dog, stop making untrue statements about dogs.

And, in case you didn't know, dogs are ready to leave their mothers by the time they are around 2 to 3 months old. They aren't dependent on parents nearly as long as humans are, and some humans suffer from cognitive impairments, mental diseases or physical disabilities that keep them totally dependent on others for their entire lives. If they are fortunate, they will have good caretakers. Some will end up in understaffed long term care facilities where their basic needs won't be met, which is very sad. Plus many older adults are no longer independent, yet they still have some worth. I'm old but I also cared for older adults for decades. They needed me while they gave me a purpose and a job. Again, a mutual beneficial relationship. I'm not sure many humans or other animals are totally independent. We all depend on others for a lot of things.

If you're not. having a mental breakdown of some kind, please lighten up, for dog's sake.

I have reported this - what you wrote was not right
I have posted links where YOU wrote about the "nuttiness of Christian beliefs", reacted to them
And yet I have to take your abuse for doing the same?
You may not agree with another person's views, you can react to them but please be respectful
I am sorry my views do not make any sense to you, plenty of views out there that don't make any sense but no need to get personal

 

[Ramaraksha]

No you're not; you're gazing at your own reflection.
You must have wasted 65 of your 67 years, because you act like a toddler.

She is calling me Senile and need psychiatric care? And she is not angry?
If I called you Senile and need Psychiatric care - you think that is a joke?
and then resorting to more personal insults - that is not my style
I want to discuss ideas, respectfully - plenty of ideas that I do not agree with
That is what living in a democracy is all about - freedom of ideas, even if they don't agree with mine

 

[Elixir]

"it appears as if you are suffering from some kind of anxiety or emotional issues."
Is a perfectly accurate (IMHO) and relevant observation, and a good piece advice to let you know how you appear.

She is calling me Senile and need psychiatric care

Poor you. She is telling you how you APPEAR. You should thank her for letting you know, because she is absolutely correct.

If I called you Senile and need Psychiatric care- you think that is a joke?

I really don't care, since you have yet to provide any reason to value your opinion.
So try it and see. Be sure an frame it as your OPINION, or how I APPEAR to you, though, or you may get suspended.