Bidengate Breaks... err... down

[Copernicus]

Hunter received not just any old pardon but a "full and unconditional" pardon; any offenses against the United States since Jan. 1 2014. I see the point in that it keeps the Trump administration from looking for any other barely significant tidbits to harass Hunter with, like from his foreign businesses dealings. Note: Hunter joined the board of Burisma in Apr 2014.
The last one to receive one with such broad scope was Nixon.

Past Trump pardons have been for "miscarriages of justice" which itself is unprecedented wording.

Personally, I think it would have been better to say that Biden was to be held responsible for any of his convictions and pardoned of all other actions. Double jeopardy protects Biden from reprosecution (I don't think SCOTUS would violate that). This provides cover for Pres. Biden regarding the "moral high ground" (fuck the moral high ground arguments of people that support Trump) and Hunter from being exploited by a vindictive Trump.

As I watch federal regulatory powers evaporate in SCOTUS and Trump lining up a doozy of a second Administration team, I really find it hard to give a fuck about one of the most molehill scandals in America's history.

I suspect that Joe Biden was worried about Trump's weaponization of the DoJ and FBI, which would then be used to trump up additional charges with which to persecute Hunter over the next 4 years. Trump is an extremely vindictive man, so it is a reasonable concern. Biden has said as much in public about why he changed his mind on issuing a pardon for his son. That's why he gave Hunter the broad Nixon-style pardon. All of this liberal handwringing over Biden going back on his word strikes me as a bit ridiculous, given what we will be dealing with over the nexrt 4 years. I guess that they feel they cannot retain the moral high ground unless we see Hunter Biden sacrificed, crushed, and ground up by Trump and his MAGA lynch mob. It's not as if Trump is going to change his behavior just because Joe Biden refrains from pardoning his son.

 

[bilby]

All of this liberal handwringing over Biden going back on his word

Well, it's not as though Trump would ever go back on his...

Oh, wait.

Shit.

 

[ZiprHead]

Rachel Maddow told about this bit political history:

The Shocking Death of Senator Lester Hunt

Joe McCarthy, Herman Welker, Lester Hunt and the Lavender Scare, the widespread persecution of gay and lesbian Americans during the McCarthy Era.

www.boisestate.edu

Basically Senator Lester Hunt's (D) son was picked up by Washington DC police during an "Indecency" sting. As was usual for such things, the son, having no priors or other extenuating circumstances, was let go with no charges.

Republican Senators Bridges, Welker, and Eugene McCarthy called the DC police chief before them and made him re-apply the charges against the son. They then went to Senator Hunt and told him we can make all this go away if you just resign from the senate.

Senator Hunt refused and the prosecution of his son was performed. That wasn't enough for Bridges, Welker, and McCarthy. They went back to Hunt and told him how he thinks the state of Wyoming, Hunt's resident state and the state he is senator of, would react if details of the son's prosecution ended up in every mailbox in Wyoming. That won't happen if you resign from the senate. At the time the Democrats had a one person lead over the Republicans.

People that knew Hunt said he was outgoing and likable. After Hunt was threatened, he became withdrawn and sullen. He ate his lunches in his office instead of with other senators as he usually did. Hunt ultimately took a gun and killed himself in his senate office.

Does this story sound a little familiar?

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Rachel Maddow told about this bit political history:

The Shocking Death of Senator Lester Hunt

Joe McCarthy, Herman Welker, Lester Hunt and the Lavender Scare, the widespread persecution of gay and lesbian Americans during the McCarthy Era.

www.boisestate.edu

Basically Senator Lester Hunt's (D) son was picked up by Washington DC police during an "Indecency" sting. As was usual for such things, the son, having no priors or other extenuating circumstances, was let go with no charges.

Republican Senators Bridges, Welker, and Eugene McCarthy called the DC police chief before them and made him re-apply the charges against the son. They then went to Senator Hunt and told him we can make all this go away if you just resign from the senate.

Senator Hunt refused and the prosecution of his son was performed. That wasn't enough for Bridges, Welker, and McCarthy. They went back to Hunt and told him how he thinks the state of Wyoming, Hunt's resident state and the state he is senator of, would react if details of the son's prosecution ended up in every mailbox in Wyoming. That won't happen if you resign from the senate. At the time the Democrats had a one person lead over the Republicans.

People that knew Hunt said he was outgoing and likable. After Hunt was threatened, he became withdrawn and sullen. He ate his lunches in his office instead of with other senators as he usually did. Hunt ultimately took a gun and killed himself in his senate office.

Does this story sound a little familiar?

Yeah, it is generally the plot to Advise and Consent (novel and film), which of course was inspired by what you referenced.

 

[barbos]

Does this story sound a little familiar?

Yes, it sounds as that time when Rachel Maddow were offering Trump to drop criminal investigations against him in exchange for his dropout of PUTUS run.

 

[ZiprHead]

Does this story sound a little familiar?

Yes, it sounds as that time when Rachel Maddow were offering Trump to drop criminal investigations against him in exchange for his dropout of PUTUS run.

Strange. I didn't know Rachel Maddow had that sort of power. Who knew?

 

[Elixir]

Does this story sound a little familiar?

Yes, it sounds as that time when Rachel Maddow were offering Trump to drop criminal investigations against him in exchange for his dropout of PUTUS run.

Strange. I didn't know Rachel Maddow had that sort of power. Who knew?

Babs knows lotsa stuff that ain’t so. This is just one bit of trivia.
If you pay close attention to babs’ revelations you can amaze your friends at parties. (Unless they’re trumpsuckers, b’cuz trumpsuckers already know most of this stuff from watching NewsMax and OAN)

 

[barbos]

Does this story sound a little familiar?

Yes, it sounds as that time when Rachel Maddow were offering Trump to drop criminal investigations against him in exchange for his dropout of POTUS run.

Strange. I didn't know Rachel Maddow had that sort of power. Who knew?

She is a public face of the Deep State. One of many.
And she did what I said she did.

 

[Copernicus]

Does this story sound a little familiar?

Yes, it sounds as that time when Rachel Maddow were offering Trump to drop criminal investigations against him in exchange for his dropout of POTUS run.

Strange. I didn't know Rachel Maddow had that sort of power. Who knew?

She is a public face of the Deep State. One of many.
And she did what I said she did.

The deep state is about people working in government. Rachel Maddow is an influential journalist, not part of the deep state. Oh, well. Why bother correcting this guy's nonsense? I doubt he believes most of the things he posts here. They only appear intended to provoke angry responses.

 

[TSwizzle]

The FBI ordered its agents to stop discussing Hunter Biden’s laptop just hours after one of its own employees inadvertently confirmed its authenticity to Twitter, according to newly disclosed internal communications obtained by congressional investigators. The revelation, reported by investigative journalist Catherine Herridge in a joint investigation with Michael Shellenberger, stems from internal FBI chat logs released to House committees. The messages show that senior officials moved swiftly to clamp down on internal discussion following the unintentional confirmation — just as the New York Post published its explosive October 14, 2020 report. “I recall that when the question came up, an intelligence analyst assigned to the Criminal Investigative Division said something to the effect of, ‘Yes, the laptop is real’,” the FBI’s former Russia unit chief told House investigators during a closed-door transcribed interview, according to Herridge’s report.

News

A lot of effort went into suppressing this nothing burger story it seems.

 

[Elixir]

A lot of effort went into suppressing this nothing burger story it seems.

Unintentional confirmation of WHAT? Was it unintentional because they were trying to keep such confirmation secret or because it was flat out WRONG?
I'm sure Swiz still thinks there's some kind of horrible "there" there, and it's being suppressed by George Soros. But to rational people, the fact that the RW's vast, impressive and continuing effort to make something out of it has yielded zip, zero, nada of any relevance to US policies procedures or presidential conduct, reveals the GOP clown show to be what it is.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

 

[blastula]

The FBI ordered its agents to stop discussing Hunter Biden’s laptop just hours after one of its own employees inadvertently confirmed its authenticity to Twitter, according to newly disclosed internal communications obtained by congressional investigators. The revelation, reported by investigative journalist Catherine Herridge in a joint investigation with Michael Shellenberger, stems from internal FBI chat logs released to House committees. The messages show that senior officials moved swiftly to clamp down on internal discussion following the unintentional confirmation — just as the New York Post published its explosive October 14, 2020 report. “I recall that when the question came up, an intelligence analyst assigned to the Criminal Investigative Division said something to the effect of, ‘Yes, the laptop is real’,” the FBI’s former Russia unit chief told House investigators during a closed-door transcribed interview, according to Herridge’s report.

News

A lot of effort went into suppressing this nothing burger story it seems.

That article is a real nothingburger. FBI doesn't make public comments on ongoing investigations anyway, so there's nothing to clamp down.

 

[scombrid]

Full court press. MAGA have been quiet on the local surfing forum lately but just got a massive link dump on Hunter Biden and burisma about the same time swiz brought this thread back up. BUTTERYMALES!!!!!!!!!!!!HUNTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!WHATABOUT!!!!!!!!!!!

Meanwhile they are spending their time in Tallahassee banning chemtrails while RFK spreads measles and ICE sends folks to concentration camps in Ecuador.

 

[scombrid]

Heartland and Heritage Foundation shills have to run block for Project 2025 at every turn.

 

[Harry Bosch]

The FBI ordered its agents to stop discussing Hunter Biden’s laptop just hours after one of its own employees inadvertently confirmed its authenticity to Twitter, according to newly disclosed internal communications obtained by congressional investigators. The revelation, reported by investigative journalist Catherine Herridge in a joint investigation with Michael Shellenberger, stems from internal FBI chat logs released to House committees. The messages show that senior officials moved swiftly to clamp down on internal discussion following the unintentional confirmation — just as the New York Post published its explosive October 14, 2020 report. “I recall that when the question came up, an intelligence analyst assigned to the Criminal Investigative Division said something to the effect of, ‘Yes, the laptop is real’,” the FBI’s former Russia unit chief told House investigators during a closed-door transcribed interview, according to Herridge’s report.

News

A lot of effort went into suppressing this nothing burger story it seems.

Do you think it’s an invasion of privacy to print the contents in the public of a private persons laptop? If there is evidence of a crime I’m open to a discussion. But I haven’t heard crap from your guys who had the laptop for two years…

 

[Elixir]

they are spending their time in Tallahassee banning chemtrails while RFK spreads measles and ICE sends folks to concentration camps in Ecuador.

MAGA!

Has Swiz come out from under his bed, now that the illegals are all imprisoned, or is The Homeless Industrial Complex still prowling the neighborhood looking for places to recommend for pooping and vomiting, in the "where to go" section of their homeless tourist guide?

 

[TSwizzle]

The FBI ordered its agents to stop discussing Hunter Biden’s laptop just hours after one of its own employees inadvertently confirmed its authenticity to Twitter, according to newly disclosed internal communications obtained by congressional investigators. The revelation, reported by investigative journalist Catherine Herridge in a joint investigation with Michael Shellenberger, stems from internal FBI chat logs released to House committees. The messages show that senior officials moved swiftly to clamp down on internal discussion following the unintentional confirmation — just as the New York Post published its explosive October 14, 2020 report. “I recall that when the question came up, an intelligence analyst assigned to the Criminal Investigative Division said something to the effect of, ‘Yes, the laptop is real’,” the FBI’s former Russia unit chief told House investigators during a closed-door transcribed interview, according to Herridge’s report.

News

A lot of effort went into suppressing this nothing burger story it seems.

Do you think it’s an invasion of privacy to print the contents in the public of a private persons laptop?

Ordinarily I would say yes. But this wasn't an ordinary situation. This was a unique situation involving Hunter Bidon and Joe Biden who was running for election. Perhaps there was something in the laptop that was of interest to the public?

If there is evidence of a crime I’m open to a discussion.

I don't know if there was evidence of a crime on the laptop but there was certainly some evidence that Hunter Bidon was giving access to the then VP of the USA to Hunter's business associates. Is it important? Maybe not to you and I but others may view it differently.

But what is important is the lengths that government officials went to in keeping the story quiet. The intimidation of the press and the circling of the wagons in that it was all a Russian misinformation operation.

And now this.

If this had been about Trump, we know it would have been handled very differently.

But I haven’t heard crap from your guys who had the laptop for two years…

I don't have any guys.

 

[Harry Bosch]

The FBI ordered its agents to stop discussing Hunter Biden’s laptop just hours after one of its own employees inadvertently confirmed its authenticity to Twitter, according to newly disclosed internal communications obtained by congressional investigators. The revelation, reported by investigative journalist Catherine Herridge in a joint investigation with Michael Shellenberger, stems from internal FBI chat logs released to House committees. The messages show that senior officials moved swiftly to clamp down on internal discussion following the unintentional confirmation — just as the New York Post published its explosive October 14, 2020 report. “I recall that when the question came up, an intelligence analyst assigned to the Criminal Investigative Division said something to the effect of, ‘Yes, the laptop is real’,” the FBI’s former Russia unit chief told House investigators during a closed-door transcribed interview, according to Herridge’s report.

News

A lot of effort went into suppressing this nothing burger story it seems.

Do you think it’s an invasion of privacy to print the contents in the public of a private persons laptop?

Ordinarily I would say yes. But this wasn't an ordinary situation. This was a unique situation involving Hunter Bidon and Joe Biden who was running for election. Perhaps there was something in the laptop that was of interest to the public?

If there is evidence of a crime I’m open to a discussion.

I don't know if there was evidence of a crime on the laptop but there was certainly some evidence that Hunter Bidon was giving access to the then VP of the USA to Hunter's business associates. Is it important? Maybe not to you and I but others may view it differently.

But what is important is the lengths that government officials went to in keeping the story quiet. The intimidation of the press and the circling of the wagons in that it was all a Russian misinformation operation.

And now this.

If this had been about Trump, we know it would have been handled very differently.

But I haven’t heard crap from your guys who had the laptop for two years…

I don't have any guys.

Sigh! In April 2024, a joint investigation lead by two republican house oversight committees found that the laptop belonged to Hunter but it demonstrated no wrong doing by Joe Biden. Just google “Hunter Biden laptop conspiracy” in Wiki.

 

[TSwizzle]

The FBI ordered its agents to stop discussing Hunter Biden’s laptop just hours after one of its own employees inadvertently confirmed its authenticity to Twitter, according to newly disclosed internal communications obtained by congressional investigators. The revelation, reported by investigative journalist Catherine Herridge in a joint investigation with Michael Shellenberger, stems from internal FBI chat logs released to House committees. The messages show that senior officials moved swiftly to clamp down on internal discussion following the unintentional confirmation — just as the New York Post published its explosive October 14, 2020 report. “I recall that when the question came up, an intelligence analyst assigned to the Criminal Investigative Division said something to the effect of, ‘Yes, the laptop is real’,” the FBI’s former Russia unit chief told House investigators during a closed-door transcribed interview, according to Herridge’s report.

News

A lot of effort went into suppressing this nothing burger story it seems.

Do you think it’s an invasion of privacy to print the contents in the public of a private persons laptop?

Ordinarily I would say yes. But this wasn't an ordinary situation. This was a unique situation involving Hunter Bidon and Joe Biden who was running for election. Perhaps there was something in the laptop that was of interest to the public?

If there is evidence of a crime I’m open to a discussion.

I don't know if there was evidence of a crime on the laptop but there was certainly some evidence that Hunter Bidon was giving access to the then VP of the USA to Hunter's business associates. Is it important? Maybe not to you and I but others may view it differently.

But what is important is the lengths that government officials went to in keeping the story quiet. The intimidation of the press and the circling of the wagons in that it was all a Russian misinformation operation.

And now this.

If this had been about Trump, we know it would have been handled very differently.

But I haven’t heard crap from your guys who had the laptop for two years…

I don't have any guys.

Sigh! In April 2024, a joint investigation lead by two republican house oversight committees found that the laptop belonged to Hunter but it demonstrated no wrong doing by Joe Biden. Just google “Hunter Biden laptop conspiracy” in Wiki.

Sure but a lot of people went to a lot of trouble to cover that fact up.