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White House officially Accuses Fauci Of COVID Crimes

We'll never know for sure. I've done a lot of reading on this, and it appears more likely that covid came from a bat.
You really think that?
As noted in the email communications between some of the top people in virology actually thought there was a strong likelihood that it was lab modified.
This is a classical distortion of reality.
Coming from a persistent proponent that Russia was provoked into invading Ukraine in order to defend itself, that is an epic example of irony.

 

Before Biden left office he made sure Fauci would be protected so no need to wonder about that. But I am wondering what the left leaning people on this board think of this? Do you still believe in what Fauci did during the pandemic? And even more important, do you still feel he was representing your best interest conducting gain of function research before the pandemic? Do you believe the subcommittee research pdf found on the government website represents a biased view?

Was Trump right all along??
Are you fucking kidding me???

The only thing Trump has said that was true was that he intended to be a dictator on day one. He lied about it being confined to day one.
 
Holy Christ. This was only 5 years ago.
Ask Herman Cain's widow how sensible the Asshole's decisions were.
He wanted the country to "open" as normal in April 2020, with the churches packed. (Do a little research about what happened in ultra-conservative Christian Right congregations that decided to ignore the warnings of the health experts.) He spent summer and fall putting on rallies where virtually all of the faithful attended without masks.
Trump not only ridiculed Biden's masks, he got his followers to ridicule them. He spread complete quackery about medicines that had no demonstrable effect with covid. The upshot was a bunch of zanies who wouldn't take the vaccine when it arrived in what the Righties should have called a miracle of modern science. These idiots comported themselves like proud American freedom fighters -- meanwhile the morgues in our big cities ran out of room for the dead that had to be placed in moving vans in hospital parking lots.
When he caught covid himself, he behaved like an absolute shit -- he met with donors at Mar-a-Lago and put their health in jeopardy. He went on the debate stage with Biden, knowing he had tested positive for covid. Poetic justice was denied when covid didn't kill him -- he of course got the deluxe therapies that most of us couldn't get at that point.
Obviously Trump despises Fauci, the way any uneducated lout despises those who have actually acquired expertise in their field and who dare to call bullshit on quacks.
And at the same time, for himself, he obtained the best state of the art treatment while suggesting injecting bleach, inserting lights up your rectum or ivermectin for the rest of the world.
 

Before Biden left office he made sure Fauci would be protected so no need to wonder about that. But I am wondering what the left leaning people on this board think of this? Do you still believe in what Fauci did during the pandemic? And even more important, do you still feel he was representing your best interest conducting gain of function research before the pandemic? Do you believe the subcommittee research pdf found on the government website represents a biased view?

Was Trump right all along??

I don't know about whether Trump was right, but I know Fauci should be held accountable for crimes against humanity with Covid and long before that. Aids in the 80s for a start. The file below is a PDF, fairly large. You have to download it.
 

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I’m not a virologist but COVID 19 is a type of coronavirus. Coronaviruses (CoVs) are enveloped positive-sense RNA viruses, and are characterized by club like spikes that project from their surface, a large RNA genome and a unique strategy for replication.

As an RNA virus, rather than a DNA virus, COVID 19 is more prone to mutations which we have seen and which is why new vaccines are necessary to be effective against the newly emerging strains ( mutated COVID 19).

While COVID 19 is a unique virus, it is indeed related to SARS virus and is also called SARS‐CoV‐2. The fact that it is closely related to a previously identified virus, creating a vaccine against it was faster and easier, as are the updated vaccines.

Because it is a new or novel virus and because of the fact that people fly all over the world, the virus had the opportunity to infect people all over the world. Unfortunately for the US and also for the world, Trump dismantled the very organizations which were in place precisely to help quickly identify and discover treatments and vaccines against pathogens likely to result in a pandemic. On the plus side, Trump did allow the rapid facilitation of the vaccine even if he simultaneously touted all sorts of nonsense about the severity, risks, method of transmission and treatment while disparaging Dr Fauci for actually addressing the issues related to treatment and prevention.

Of course isolation and masking were disruptive and unpleasant and caused hardship, particularly for students and children of all ages who were not able to continue their usual activities and education—and their parents who had to simultaneously care for their children, provide education and still work, whether from home or in person,

Because of Trump’s nonsense, hundreds of thousands became ill and hundreds of thousands in this country alone died. They included not only older adults ( one of my cousins died from COVID contracted while attending the funeral of a friend who died from COVID. His family had the good sense to refuse to hold a public funeral to not further contribute to the spread. A young man whose wedding I had just attended a year or two earlier died from COVID because he and his wife were advised to not be vaccinated because they were trying to conceive. Because of so much disinformation that was being spread. Not to be confused with emerging information as scientists worked to learn more about the virus and how to effectively prevent its spread.

It is sad—no tragic—that people are still willing to believe nonsense put forth by an ill educated man who did receive and will again receive the best state of the art medical care—at public expense—should he again contract COVID. Or the nonsense put forth by an individual who only has any public influence because some of his family members were famous politicians and who himself has zero medical training, zero expertise in virology or epidemiology and who has a long history of drug use, a literal brain worm and a long history of bizarre and criminal behavior.

Seriously people! Most of the posters here are old enough to remember measles, mumps and rubella before there were effective vaccines! Hell, I almost died from pertussis when I was an infant! Why on earth parents today are refusing to spare their children the misery or the risks of serious illness and possible death or disability that could be prevented by a vaccine is beyond me!

Because someone named Kennedy says it’s bad to vaccinate? Because he saw a YouTube?
 
Trump did a lot of shit during COVID pandemic. But that fact is no excuse to let investigation into origin of the pandemics to slide. As for the shit he did, I personally doubt that any other president would have done much better in any real metrics. The whole world has collectively failed to handle it and it simply had ran its course.
And yes, I think it was a lab leak.
 
Or the nonsense put forth by an individual who only has any public influence because some of his family members were famous politicians and who himself has zero medical training
US is run by ignorant and sometimes evil idiots on all levels of power. It's american way.
 
Or the nonsense put forth by an individual who only has any public influence because some of his family members were famous politicians and who himself has zero medical training
US is run by ignorant and sometimes evil idiots on all levels of power. It's american way.
American way means we can sometimes spot these idiots and kick them out of office. Too bad for idiot Russians who love suffering under violent Russian dictators like Putin. They are stuck with him stealing their wealth and slaughtering their children in perpetuity. It's the Russian way.
 
American way means we can sometimes (rarely) spot these idiots and kick replace them out of office with another idiot.
fixed for you.
And idiots you elect during elections are figureheads anyway, have no real power.
 
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Trump did a lot of shit during COVID pandemic. But that fact is no excuse to let investigation into origin of the pandemics to slide. As for the shit he did, I personally doubt that any other president would have done much better in any real metrics. The whole world has collectively failed to handle it and it simply had ran its course.
And yes, I think it was a lab leak.
Many countries handled it much better than USA under Trump, and if USA had a different president it would have been one of these countries, saving many more lives.
You're right about it being developed in a lab, specifically a Russian lab from which it was deliberately leaked by orders of Putin, as part of his plan to destroy the USA with his minion Trump.
 
Trump did a lot of shit during COVID pandemic. But that fact is no excuse to let investigation into origin of the pandemics to slide. As for the shit he did, I personally doubt that any other president would have done much better in any real metrics. The whole world has collectively failed to handle it and it simply had ran its course.
And yes, I think it was a lab leak.
Many countries handled it much better than USA under Trump, and if USA had a different president it would have been one of these countries, saving many more lives.
it did not matter in the end, and people in US would not have listened to Trump even if he did everything right.
 
Or the nonsense put forth by an individual who only has any public influence because some of his family members were famous politicians and who himself has zero medical training
US is run by ignorant and sometimes evil idiots on all levels of power. It's american way.
We learned it from Russia.
Putin isn't stupid, just evil. Enough for me for him to fuck off and die.
 
Trump did a lot of shit during COVID pandemic. But that fact is no excuse to let investigation into origin of the pandemics to slide. As for the shit he did, I personally doubt that any other president would have done much better in any real metrics. The whole world has collectively failed to handle it and it simply had ran its course.
And yes, I think it was a lab leak.
Many countries handled it much better than USA under Trump, and if USA had a different president it would have been one of these countries, saving many more lives.
it did not matter in the end, and people in US would not have listened to Trump even if he did everything rightI
What you are saying then is that if Trump had not been elected, Russia’s long standing program to inflame American belief in and confidence in our governmental institutions would have still been sufficiently effective.

I doubt that but who knows how many agents you have in the US.

As for COVID itself and the death and destruction it caused?

It matters very much to the people whose loved ones died. It matters very much for those who are still struggling with the long term effects of having had COVID. And of course those who love and care for them.

Maybe you don’t have love in Russia. Maybe Putin destroyed that for you so now you have only him. Just Putin.

Russian fatalism just looks like defeat and depression to those not so infected or indoctrinated. With a touch of cowardice.
 
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