Another Fucking Mass Shooting At US School

[Derec]

Your site says white makes make 31% of the population and commit 51% of the mass shootings.

I said whites were underrepresented. Work on your reading comprehension!
Males are strongly overrepresented regardless of race due to things like testosterone. But people like Toni forever blame white males specifically for all ills in the world.

And this is an issue at all, let alobe relevant to this thread, because…?

It is not relevant. I was merely replying to Toni's statement about various religious groups in MN.

 

[Derec]

Looks like they probably were. I rather suspect this is going to turn out to be where they had suffered abuse for being trans.

Who is "they"? There was only one shooter. Did she have a mouse in her pocket or something?

 

[Loren Pechtel]

I think we need better gun laws. Too bad the Dems go-to prescription is about banning certain guns based on how they look.

I don’t think that’s the limiting factor getting better gun laws through Congress.

What gun laws have the Republicans proffered that you think are more sensible?

Exactly. Neither side offers reasonable proposals, both sides offer unreasonable proposals and are rightfully attacked by the other side over them.

That being said, it's pretty hard to devise a law that prevents this sort of thing without basically abolishing guns.

 

[Shadowy Man]

I think we need better gun laws. Too bad the Dems go-to prescription is about banning certain guns based on how they look.

I don’t think that’s the limiting factor getting better gun laws through Congress.

What gun laws have the Republicans proffered that you think are more sensible?

Exactly. Neither side offers reasonable proposals, both sides offer unreasonable proposals and are rightfully attacked by the other side over them.

That being said, it's pretty hard to devise a law that prevents this sort of thing without basically abolishing guns.

Derec thinks it is possible to have better gun laws.

Republicans have full control of the government right now. So I was wondering what he thinks republicans might be able to propose and pass as a better gun law.

Are they even trying?

 

[Derec]

I don’t think that’s the limiting factor getting better gun laws through Congress.

Political capital is a finite commodity, even when you have strong majorities. Focusing on reviving the "assault weapons ban" wasted that capital when Dems were in charge.
Not to mention that your candidates have a lower chance to actually win if you say stupid shit like

β went from narrow 48-51 loss against Cruz for Senate in 2018 to a 44-55 loss in the 2022 gubernatorial election against Abbott.

What gun laws have the Republicans proffered that you think are more sensible?

I did not say that Reps have offered anything sensible either. But Dems want to reform gun laws, and to have any chance of accomplishing that, they need to focus on things that would actually make a difference. Few gun crimes are committed with AR15s and AK47s, and focusing on them is silly and counterproductive.

 

[Derec]

Derec thinks it is possible to have better gun laws.

In principle, yes. Obviously, not at the moment because ...

Republicans have full control of the government right now.

But there were years when Dems controlled the presidency and had strong majorities in the Congress.

Are they even trying?

No.

 

[steve_bank]

I was a student at Stamford Catholic high School in the 60s when a student went on the roof with a rifle. He had a blow up with a teacher and returned the next day with a gun.

The building was U shaped so he could see into classrooms. We had to go into the hallways.

The police youth officer told him to give up, and he shot himself. A .22 rifle.

Boy, 15, Commits Suicide On Stamford School Roof (Published 1968)

McGuinness, Kevin

www.nytimes.com

 

[laughing dog]

Your site says white makes make 31% of the population and commit 51% of the mass shootings.

I said whites were underrepresented. Work on your reading comprehension!

Work on yours because your site says white Americans commit 53% of mass shootings.

Males are strongly overrepresented regardless of race due to things like testosterone. But people like Toni forever blame white males specifically for all ills in the world.

In this case, white males are over represented. So she has the facts on her side, thanks to your site’s data.

 

[Derec]

Work on yours because your site says white Americans commit 53% of mass shootings.

And are >70% of the population. Hence, underrepresented. Or look at per-capita numbers. Whites are at 0.05/100,000 while blacks and Indians are at 0.09.

In this case, white males are over represented. So she has the facts on her side, thanks to your site’s data.

No, she does not. Blacks and Indians have the highest per capita rates, and yet she chooses to blame whites for all the ills in the world. As usual for movement leftism.

[edited to fix typos]

 

[laughing dog]

Work on yours because your site says white Americans commit 53% of mass shootings.

And are >70% of the population.

Last time I looked, whites were less than 60%.

Hence, underrepresented. Or look at per-capita numbers. Whites are at 0.5/100,000 while blacks and Indians are at 0.9.

Your site has all 3 at 0.09 per 100,000.

In this case, white males are over represented. So she has the facts on her side, thanks to your site’s data.

No, she does not. Blacks and Indians have the highest per capita rates, and yet she chooses to blame whites for all the ills in the world. As usual for movement leftism.

Spin away, but your site says white men (31% of the population) commit over half the mass shootings. White guys in this situation are the major problem.

 

[Derec]

Last time I looked, whites were less than 60%.

Where did you look?

Your site has all 3 at 0.09 per 100,000.

No, it doesn't. Are you blind? Whites are listed at 0.05/100,000.

Spin away, but your site says white men (31% of the population) commit over half the mass shootings. White guys in this situation are the major problem.

You are the one who is spinning away like an open differential with one wheel in the air.
Whites are underrepresented, blacks and Indians are overrepresented.
No amount of racist spin will change these facts.

 

[laughing dog]

Last time I looked, whites were less than 60%.

Where did you look?

Your site.

Your site has all 3 at 0.09 per 100,000.

No, it doesn't. Are you blind? Whites are listed at 0.05/100,000.

Sorry, white men are 0.09.

Spin away, but your site says white men (31% of the population) commit over half the mass shootings. White guys in this situation are the major problem.

You are the one who is spinning away like an open differential with one wheel in the air.
Whites are underrepresented, blacks and Indians are overrepresented.
No amount of racist spin will change these facts.

According to your site, men account for 98% of those shootings. Men are the problem.

And white men (less than 1/3 of the population) commit over half those shootings. White guys are the bigger problem.

 

[Derec]

Last time I looked, whites were less than 60%.

Where did you look?

Your site.

Oh, I see, Probably a typo since it is inconsistent with 31% for white men.

Sorry, white men are 0.09.

According to your site, men account for 98% of those shootings. Men are the problem.

Men tend to be overrepresented in violent crimes. To say "men are the problem" misandrist polemic.
Note that Toni specifically singled out white men for scorn, and you maintain that, even though black men commit more mass shootings per capita.

And white men (less than 1/3 of the population) commit over half those shootings. White guys are the bigger problem.

Than black guys? Based on what, other than your racism?
Note that black guys are ~6.5% of the population and account for 21% of all mass shootings. But it's not politically correct, not woke, to point that out. Blaming white men for everything is.

 

[bilby]

Men tend to be overrepresented in violent crimes. To say "men are the problem" misandrist polemic.

However, if whites are underrepresented, then to say "non-whites are the problem" is, apparently not racist polemic.

Because bigotry I agree with is just fine and dandy; It's only the bigotry against me that is unconscionable.

 

[laughing dog]

Last time I looked, whites were less than 60%.

Where did you look?

Your site.

Oh, I see, Probably a typo since it is inconsistent with 31% for white men.

You cannot cherry pick which statistics are typos and which are not based on your views.
In 2021, whites were 59.3% ( Race_and_ethnicity_in_the_United_States) of the US population. I seriously doubt the proportion has increased since then.

According to your site, men account for 98% of those shootings. Men are the problem.

Men tend to be overrepresented in violent crimes. To say "men are the problem" misandrist polemic.

If 98% of a crime is committed by X, then X is the problem. That is a logical conclusion.

Note that Toni specifically singled out white men for scorn, and you maintain that, even though black men commit more mass shootings per capita.

Because white men commit more the majority of them. Black men may have a higher per-capita rate, but given the much larger number of white men, it is the total that makes them the bigger problem in this instance.

And white men (less than 1/3 of the population) commit over half those shootings. White guys are the bigger problem.

Than black guys? Based on what, other than your racism?
Note that black guys are ~6.5% of the population and account for 21% of all mass shootings. But it's not politically correct, not woke, to point that out. Blaming white men for everything is.

I am not blaming white guys for everything. I do find your accusation of racism more than ironic.

 

[Patooka]

Looks like they probably were. I rather suspect this is going to turn out to be where they had suffered abuse for being trans.

Who is "they"? There was only one shooter. Did she have a mouse in her pocket or something?

Oh no! Derec is being pedantic again! What should I do?

 

[Patooka]

Probably point out the obvious then, I guess.

 

[Toni]

Your site says white makes make 31% of the population and commit 51% of the mass shootings.

I said whites were underrepresented. Work on your reading comprehension!
Males are strongly overrepresented regardless of race due to things like testosterone. But people like Toni forever blame white males specifically for all ills in the world.

And this is an issue at all, let alobe relevant to this thread, because…?

It is not relevant. I was merely replying to Toni's statement about various religious groups in MN.

Unlike you, I am not blaming any demographic group. I merely did a quick search for the demographics of Minnesota and reported them here.

The fact is that most violent crime in the US ( and world) is committed by males.

 

[barbos]

Shooter is allegedly transgender.

FBI head Patel says they are treating this as domestic terrorism against Catholics. Not certain whether they found anything so quickly to justify that conclusion. Shooter had a parent that worked at the school.

The shooter is reportedly a former student and the mother a former employee.

Whether or not the shooter was transgender is still uncertain, in my opinion.

Looks like they probably were. I rather suspect this is going to turn out to be where they had suffered abuse for being trans.

Let's be honest here, trans by default are messed up in brain department, no additional abuse is required to go postal.

 

[barbos]

Note that black guys are ~6.5% of the population and account for 21% of all mass shootings. But it's not politically correct, not woke, to point that out. Blaming white men for everything is.

Come on. Premeditated and completely random shootings is almost exclusively white man job.
Blacks usually have some reasons and target people who are at least somewhat connected to the cause.