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Reading novels like The Unquiet Earth and Storming Heaven along with watching the film Matewan in a class taught by a professor from Hinton was eye opening.
 
And about Matewan. The guy that played the haunting role of the child preacher in that film put out an album "Purple Bird" at the beginning of this year; that album has a lot to say about the way of the world these days.
 
This article is from just over a year ago (before Colbert and Kimmel got cancelled):

How Late Night TV Is Downsizing

The audience for Stephen Colbert, Jimmy Fallon and Jimmy Kimmel has — like much of traditional TV — been on the decline for years as viewers have shifted their habits toward streaming and, specific to the late-night shows, viewing clips on YouTube and social media.

Five years ago, The Late Show finished first in total viewers among late-night talk shows with 3.81 million, to 2.44 million for The Tonight Show and 2.04 million for Jimmy Kimmel Live. In 2023-24, The Late Show remained No. 1, but with only about 2.6 million viewers — a decline of about 32 percent from 2018-19. Kimmel moved into second with 1.82 million viewers, down about 11 percent from five years earlier (having Monday Night Football as a lead-in once a week last fall helped some; the show averaged 1.77 million viewers from January to May). The Tonight Show slipped to third in viewers with 1.43 million, losing 41 percent of its 2018-19 total.

Things were no better at 12:35 a.m., where Late Night With Seth Meyers (983,000 viewers) was down by about 470,000 viewers (32 percent) from 2018-19. CBS’ After Midnight, which premiered in January, averaged about 730,000 viewers over its first five months.

Last year, Brian Stelter reported in Los Angeles magazine that CBS’ Late Late Show was losing $15 million-$20 million per year, and while Corden’s departure was a long time coming, the losses were all-but-certainly a factor in why CBS pulled the plug after he left.
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Seems to me like it was only a matter of time for all of these shows, and all the hub bub with the Trump administration likely gave them a convenient, face saving exit strategy. TV viewing has changed a lot in the last few years. This is not Johhny Carson's late night talk show anymore. Who, by the way, had the sense not to trash half his potential audience daily with his own personal political views.
 
thebeave said:
This article is from just over a year ago (before Colbert and Kimmel got cancelled):

How Late Night TV Is Downsizing

The audience for Stephen Colbert, Jimmy Fallon and Jimmy Kimmel has — like much of traditional TV — been on the decline for years as viewers have shifted their habits toward streaming and, specific to the late-night shows, viewing clips on YouTube and social media.

Five years ago, The Late Show finished first in total viewers among late-night talk shows with 3.81 million, to 2.44 million for The Tonight Show and 2.04 million for Jimmy Kimmel Live. In 2023-24, The Late Show remained No. 1, but with only about 2.6 million viewers — a decline of about 32 percent from 2018-19. Kimmel moved into second with 1.82 million viewers, down about 11 percent from five years earlier (having Monday Night Football as a lead-in once a week last fall helped some; the show averaged 1.77 million viewers from January to May). The Tonight Show slipped to third in viewers with 1.43 million, losing 41 percent of its 2018-19 total.

Things were no better at 12:35 a.m., where Late Night With Seth Meyers (983,000 viewers) was down by about 470,000 viewers (32 percent) from 2018-19. CBS’ After Midnight, which premiered in January, averaged about 730,000 viewers over its first five months.

Last year, Brian Stelter reported in Los Angeles magazine that CBS’ Late Late Show was losing $15 million-$20 million per year, and while Corden’s departure was a long time coming, the losses were all-but-certainly a factor in why CBS pulled the plug after he left.
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Seems to me like it was only a matter of time for all of these shows, and all the hub bub with the Trump administration likely gave them a convenient, face saving exit strategy. TV viewing has changed a lot in the last few years. This is not Johhny Carson's late night talk show anymore. Who, by the way, had the sense not to trash half his potential audience daily with his own personal political views.
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And they can't make streaming only financially viable? To cut them altogether is to roll over for Trump. If the networks cut ties with the hosts altogether, perhaps they could make a go of it alone streaming. Colbert has over 10 million subscribers. His viewership has increased since the announcement.
I wonder would Trump then try and press Google to bend to his authoritarian will?
 
TV and credit cards said:
I wonder would Trump then try and press Google to bend to his authoritarian will?
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Trump will try anything that he thinks that he can get away with whether it's legal or not. He has repeatedly called the media the enemy of the people. But he is clearly the enemy of the people when it comes to his fight against the protections of the 1st Amendment.
 
thebeave said:
This article is from just over a year ago (before Colbert and Kimmel got cancelled):

How Late Night TV Is Downsizing

The audience for Stephen Colbert, Jimmy Fallon and Jimmy Kimmel has — like much of traditional TV — been on the decline for years as viewers have shifted their habits toward streaming and, specific to the late-night shows, viewing clips on YouTube and social media.

Five years ago, The Late Show finished first in total viewers among late-night talk shows with 3.81 million, to 2.44 million for The Tonight Show and 2.04 million for Jimmy Kimmel Live. In 2023-24, The Late Show remained No. 1, but with only about 2.6 million viewers — a decline of about 32 percent from 2018-19. Kimmel moved into second with 1.82 million viewers, down about 11 percent from five years earlier (having Monday Night Football as a lead-in once a week last fall helped some; the show averaged 1.77 million viewers from January to May). The Tonight Show slipped to third in viewers with 1.43 million, losing 41 percent of its 2018-19 total.

Things were no better at 12:35 a.m., where Late Night With Seth Meyers (983,000 viewers) was down by about 470,000 viewers (32 percent) from 2018-19. CBS’ After Midnight, which premiered in January, averaged about 730,000 viewers over its first five months.

Last year, Brian Stelter reported in Los Angeles magazine that CBS’ Late Late Show was losing $15 million-$20 million per year, and while Corden’s departure was a long time coming, the losses were all-but-certainly a factor in why CBS pulled the plug after he left.
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Seems to me like it was only a matter of time for all of these shows, and all the hub bub with the Trump administration likely gave them a convenient, face saving exit strategy. TV viewing has changed a lot in the last few years. This is not Johhny Carson's late night talk show anymore. Who, by the way, had the sense not to trash half his potential audience daily with his own personal political views.
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Kimmel was not suspended because of financial concerns. How is face saving to suspend performer for what they said?
 
laughing dog said:
thebeave said:
This article is from just over a year ago (before Colbert and Kimmel got cancelled):

How Late Night TV Is Downsizing

The audience for Stephen Colbert, Jimmy Fallon and Jimmy Kimmel has — like much of traditional TV — been on the decline for years as viewers have shifted their habits toward streaming and, specific to the late-night shows, viewing clips on YouTube and social media.

Five years ago, The Late Show finished first in total viewers among late-night talk shows with 3.81 million, to 2.44 million for The Tonight Show and 2.04 million for Jimmy Kimmel Live. In 2023-24, The Late Show remained No. 1, but with only about 2.6 million viewers — a decline of about 32 percent from 2018-19. Kimmel moved into second with 1.82 million viewers, down about 11 percent from five years earlier (having Monday Night Football as a lead-in once a week last fall helped some; the show averaged 1.77 million viewers from January to May). The Tonight Show slipped to third in viewers with 1.43 million, losing 41 percent of its 2018-19 total.

Things were no better at 12:35 a.m., where Late Night With Seth Meyers (983,000 viewers) was down by about 470,000 viewers (32 percent) from 2018-19. CBS’ After Midnight, which premiered in January, averaged about 730,000 viewers over its first five months.

Last year, Brian Stelter reported in Los Angeles magazine that CBS’ Late Late Show was losing $15 million-$20 million per year, and while Corden’s departure was a long time coming, the losses were all-but-certainly a factor in why CBS pulled the plug after he left.
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Seems to me like it was only a matter of time for all of these shows, and all the hub bub with the Trump administration likely gave them a convenient, face saving exit strategy. TV viewing has changed a lot in the last few years. This is not Johhny Carson's late night talk show anymore. Who, by the way, had the sense not to trash half his potential audience daily with his own personal political views.
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Kimmel was not suspended because of financial concerns. How is face saving to suspend performer for what they said?
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I didn't mention it in my post, but his ratings got worse...much worse..., after the HR article. His ratings dropped from 1.95 million views in Jan 2025 to 1.1 million viewers in August 2025. That is huge. The network cannot keep his show going with that kind of performance, and if the ABC management had any sense, getting rid of his show would at least be a serious consideration, no? I think there's a good chance that they used the Charlie Kirk thing as their "out". That allows them to blame Trump et al, rather than their own financial mismanagement. That's the face saving part I was referring to.
 
So it is ok for the government to strong arm his cancellation because the free market was likely going to do it anyway? What’s the argument here?

Or is it that the TV executives are too weak-willed to cancel a show that is doing poorly (which never seemed to be a problem before with so many shows getting canceled over the years) so they get to blame Trump?
 
thebeave said:
laughing dog said:
thebeave said:
This article is from just over a year ago (before Colbert and Kimmel got cancelled):

How Late Night TV Is Downsizing

The audience for Stephen Colbert, Jimmy Fallon and Jimmy Kimmel has — like much of traditional TV — been on the decline for years as viewers have shifted their habits toward streaming and, specific to the late-night shows, viewing clips on YouTube and social media.

Five years ago, The Late Show finished first in total viewers among late-night talk shows with 3.81 million, to 2.44 million for The Tonight Show and 2.04 million for Jimmy Kimmel Live. In 2023-24, The Late Show remained No. 1, but with only about 2.6 million viewers — a decline of about 32 percent from 2018-19. Kimmel moved into second with 1.82 million viewers, down about 11 percent from five years earlier (having Monday Night Football as a lead-in once a week last fall helped some; the show averaged 1.77 million viewers from January to May). The Tonight Show slipped to third in viewers with 1.43 million, losing 41 percent of its 2018-19 total.

Things were no better at 12:35 a.m., where Late Night With Seth Meyers (983,000 viewers) was down by about 470,000 viewers (32 percent) from 2018-19. CBS’ After Midnight, which premiered in January, averaged about 730,000 viewers over its first five months.

Last year, Brian Stelter reported in Los Angeles magazine that CBS’ Late Late Show was losing $15 million-$20 million per year, and while Corden’s departure was a long time coming, the losses were all-but-certainly a factor in why CBS pulled the plug after he left.
Click to expand...

Seems to me like it was only a matter of time for all of these shows, and all the hub bub with the Trump administration likely gave them a convenient, face saving exit strategy. TV viewing has changed a lot in the last few years. This is not Johhny Carson's late night talk show anymore. Who, by the way, had the sense not to trash half his potential audience daily with his own personal political views.
Click to expand...
Kimmel was not suspended because of financial concerns. How is face saving to suspend performer for what they said?
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I didn't mention it in my post, but his ratings got worse...much worse..., after the HR article. His ratings dropped from 1.95 million views in Jan 2025 to 1.1 million viewers in August 2025. That is huge. The network cannot keep his show going with that kind of performance, and if the ABC management had any sense, getting rid of his show would at least be a serious consideration, no? I think there's a good chance that they used the Charlie Kirk thing as their "out". That allows them to blame Trump et al, rather than their own financial mismanagement. That's the face saving part I was referring to.
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Looking gutless by caving to Trump is face saving?
 
TV and credit cards said:
thebeave said:
This article is from just over a year ago (before Colbert and Kimmel got cancelled):

How Late Night TV Is Downsizing

The audience for Stephen Colbert, Jimmy Fallon and Jimmy Kimmel has — like much of traditional TV — been on the decline for years as viewers have shifted their habits toward streaming and, specific to the late-night shows, viewing clips on YouTube and social media.

Five years ago, The Late Show finished first in total viewers among late-night talk shows with 3.81 million, to 2.44 million for The Tonight Show and 2.04 million for Jimmy Kimmel Live. In 2023-24, The Late Show remained No. 1, but with only about 2.6 million viewers — a decline of about 32 percent from 2018-19. Kimmel moved into second with 1.82 million viewers, down about 11 percent from five years earlier (having Monday Night Football as a lead-in once a week last fall helped some; the show averaged 1.77 million viewers from January to May). The Tonight Show slipped to third in viewers with 1.43 million, losing 41 percent of its 2018-19 total.

Things were no better at 12:35 a.m., where Late Night With Seth Meyers (983,000 viewers) was down by about 470,000 viewers (32 percent) from 2018-19. CBS’ After Midnight, which premiered in January, averaged about 730,000 viewers over its first five months.

Last year, Brian Stelter reported in Los Angeles magazine that CBS’ Late Late Show was losing $15 million-$20 million per year, and while Corden’s departure was a long time coming, the losses were all-but-certainly a factor in why CBS pulled the plug after he left.
Click to expand...

Seems to me like it was only a matter of time for all of these shows, and all the hub bub with the Trump administration likely gave them a convenient, face saving exit strategy. TV viewing has changed a lot in the last few years. This is not Johhny Carson's late night talk show anymore. Who, by the way, had the sense not to trash half his potential audience daily with his own personal political views.
Click to expand...
And they can't make streaming only financially viable? To cut them altogether is to roll over for Trump. If the networks cut ties with the hosts altogether, perhaps they could make a go of it alone streaming. Colbert has over 10 million subscribers. His viewership has increased since the announcement.
I wonder would Trump then try and press Google to bend to his authoritarian will?
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I can’t think why not, the Biden administration tried it.
 
Having finally seen the Kimmel video that got him sacked, it appears to me that he actually said fuck all about Kirk's murder, but was critical of MAGAtard's insanely fast move to politicize it, along with Trump's lack of empathy ("the ballroom's going great").

So basically he got sacked not because of poor ratings, but because he was right.
 
Modern comedians could learn a thing or two from late comedian Johnny Carson. Carson was just as funny as anyone else but he never alienated half his audience because he was careful to be a political athiest. Carson lasted over 30 years in the business.

If I were the CEO of Disney or some other outlet I would tell my employees exactly the same thing. Don't let your customers know your politics so you won't lose half your business.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/flash...ger-late-night-shows-preaching-serious-issues
 
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