Merged Gaza just launched an unprovoked attack on Israel

[steve_bank]

Putting aside the issue of l;and seizure, Palestinians do not have the ability for stable self rule.

Hamas and Fatah fought a civil war having nothing to do with Israel.

Before the Intifada and Israel closing the border Palestinians crossed to work in Israel. Israel was gateway for Palestinian exports.

Hamas has always suppressed political opposition.

Fatah–Hamas conflict - Wikipedia

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The Fatah–Hamas conflict (Arabic: النزاع بين فتح وحماس, romanized: an-Nizāʿ bayna Fataḥ wa-Ḥamās) is an ongoing political and strategic conflict between Fatah and Hamas, the two main Palestinian political parties in the Palestinian territories, leading to the Hamas takeover of the Gaza Strip in June 2007. The reconciliation process and unification of Hamas and Fatah administrations remains unfinalized and the situation is deemed a frozen conflict.

The Palestinian Independent Commission for Citizens' Rights has found that over 600 Palestinians were killed in the fighting from January 2006 to May 2007.[26] Dozens more were killed or executed in the following years as part of the conflict.

Battle of Gaza (2007) - Wikipedia

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The Battle of Gaza, also known as the Gaza civil war, was a brief civil war between Fatah and Hamas that took place in the Gaza Strip from 10 to 15 June 2007. It was a prominent event in the Fatah–Hamas conflict, centered on the struggle for power after the fall of the National Unity Government between Hamas and Fatah, which was dissolved shortly afterwards.[3] This led to the de facto division of the Palestinian territories into two entities: the West Bank governed by the Palestinian National Authority (PNA), and the Gaza Strip governed by Hamas. Hamas fighters took control of the Gaza Strip, while Fatah officials were either taken as prisoners, executed, or expelled.[3][4] The Palestinian Centre for Human Rights reported that at least 161 people were killed and more than 700 were wounded during the fighting.[1]

Peace will require an international militray presence and oversight to maintain order.

When Yassar Arafat, remember him?, left college it was like he went to a job fair and chose terrorism as an occupation. First he went to Jordan causing trouble, then to Gaza and the West Bank

He was corrupt. When he died his wife ended up in France with a lot of money.

A lot of aid money from the USA, Europe, and Arabs went into Gaza and the West Bank.

Th region is tribal. On the plus side Israel is an island of stability ina sea of chaos.

 

[Gospel]

Oh, goody. Internal fighting in Gaza. The jihadi maffia family Doughmush is attacking Hamas.

We don't want them to win. A clan, in every way, more ruthless than Hamas. It would suck if Hamas successors are more extreme than Hamas

What do you mean by “we”? Netanyahu himself said Israel armed certain Gaza clans opposed to Hamas, why assume the Dughmush couldn’t have been among them?

 

[DrZoidberg]

Oh, goody. Internal fighting in Gaza. The jihadi maffia family Doughmush is attacking Hamas.

We don't want them to win. A clan, in every way, more ruthless than Hamas. It would suck if Hamas successors are more extreme than Hamas

What do you mean by “we”? Netanyahu himself said Israel armed certain Gaza clans opposed to Hamas, why assume the Dughmush couldn’t have been among them?

Doughmush certainly are opposed to Hamas. Its just that they hate Jews even more. If they win it'll get worse. Doughmush think Hamas is soft on Jews

 

[DrZoidberg]

Its a good day. The last hostages that are still alive have been returned.

That's something to celebrate

 

[Gospel]

Yeah, I'm glad to see a ceasefire. Innocent people on both sides deserve peace and stability. It won’t last while Hamas still holds power, but for now, I hope civilians can breathe.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Its a good day. The last hostages that are still alive have been returned.

That's something to celebrate

To be grateful for. Celebrate... seems a little callous of the losses of those who were hostages (and their families) for over two years.

 

[TomC]

Its a good day. The last hostages that are still alive have been returned.

That's something to celebrate

To be grateful for. Celebrate... seems a little callous of the losses of those who were hostages (and their families) for over two years.

You do have a good point.
Also, the kidnapping victims who came back in bits and pieces.
Tom

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Yeah, I'm glad to see a ceasefire. Innocent people on both sides deserve peace and stability. It won’t last while Hamas still holds power, but for now, I hope civilians can breathe.

Actually, I think that is going to be another thing in a couple years, all of the caustic dust that has been inhaled, but many of the Gazans are homeless, so I think actions for that problem exists to deal with poorly first, and then we can ignore the cancer and other lung related maladies that will be coming up.

Trump is proclaiming peace already, much like how he proclaimed the end of the tensions on the Korean peninsula. All he has in his hand is a prologue, at best.

 

[bilby]

Palestinians do not have the ability for stable self rule.

That is one of the most vile statements of casual and thoughtless racism it has ever been my misfortune to see.