The Race For 2024

[bilby]

After the 2020 election I was told how safe, secure, and resistant to tampering or stealing our elections were, and anyone who said otherwise was a right-wing kook.

Spoken like a true simpleton.

It's very difficult to falsify election results in the US; Difficult to the point of being essentially impossible. The counts presented are within a few votes of being an exact and accurate count of the votes cast, in every case. And falsifying or changing those counts without getting caught is just not going to happen.

However, it is fairly easy to move the boundaries of districts in order to get the results you want in a FPTP system - a technique known as "Gerrymandering", which does not involve mis-counting of votes.

And it is also fairly easy to prevent people from voting at all - particularly when voting is entirely optional. Simply reducing the number of voting places where your opponents live, so that lines are long and people don't bother to vote, can have a big impact, as can eliminating 'early voting' and access to postal votes in such places.

An accurate count (no matter how impossible it would be to miscount) of a biased sample is not an accurate representation of the wider system.

After 2020, when it was demonstrated how safe, secure, and resistant to tampering your elections are, those who sought to subvert them had to find a way to do so within the constraints of a tamper-resistant poll, and have done so.

But don't mind the complex truth; Your simple sound-bite is better than any real argument at swaying the opinions of simpletons.

It's far easier to lie to people so that they are happy while their democracy is subverted, than it is to get them to try to grasp a nuanced and complex reality.

So, congratulations for choosing the easy path over the honest one. I hope it brings you happiness.

 

[Elixir]

After the 2020 election I was told how safe, secure, and resistant to tampering or stealing our elections were, and anyone who said otherwise was a right-wing kook.

Spoken like a true simpleton.

It's very difficult to falsify election results in the US; Difficult to the point of being essentially impossible.

Nah, you just call up the Secretary of State wherever you lost and tell them to find 11,780 or however many votes you lost by.

The counts presented are within a few votes of being an exact and accurate count of the votes cast, in every case. And falsifying or changing those counts without getting caught is just not going to happen.

So who cares if you get caught? If you’re already president and stacked the courts, chances are that one of them will close the case. And if not, SCROTUS will find a way to make whatever you did legal.

However, it is fairly easy to move the boundaries of districts in order to get the results you want in a FPTP system - a technique known as "Gerrymandering", which does not involve mis-counting of votes.

Yabut the the other guys do it too, so why bother? Easier to just “get” the count you want in the first place.

And it is also fairly easy to prevent people from voting at all - particularly when voting is entirely optional. Simply reducing the number of voting places where your opponents live, so that lines are long and people don't bother to vote, can have a big impact, as can eliminating 'early voting' and access to postal votes in such places.

Yup, and when you’re president you can do all you want of that shit, and call it an official act. “Convict me if you can!”

After 2020, when it was demonstrated how safe, secure, and resistant to tampering your elections are, those who sought to subvert them had to find a way to do so within the constraints of a tamper-resistant poll, and have done so.

Never fear, they’re still working on it.

But don't mind the complex truth; Your simple sound-bite is better than any real argument at swaying the opinions of simpletons.

QED

So, congratulations for choosing the easy path over the honest one. I hope it brings you happiness.

Who doesn’t want a life of ease?

 

[ZiprHead]

So who cares if you get caught? If you’re already president and stacked the courts, chances are that one of them will close the case. And if not, SCROTUS will find a way to ignore the constitution to make whatever you did legal.

FTFY

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

After the 2020 election I was told how safe, secure, and resistant to tampering or stealing our elections were, and anyone who said otherwise was a right-wing kook.

Well we have a new front runner for Disingenuous Post of the Month.