The Race For 2024

[Jimmy Higgins]

You have gone off on an odd soapbox here. It's like you have entirely failed to comprehend that FPTP isn't the only possible voting system available, and have instead decided to lecture me on the evils of not voting at all as if that has any relevance to my post.

The voting method is irrelevant if districts are far from competitive.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Very much the problem with Vice President Harris. Competent and responsible administrator, terrible campaigner. Running against a pathetic wannabe dictator, who campaigns very well.

The old form vs. substance problem.

Yes, substance but not as much charisma. But ultimately, it was inflation that harmed her chances at winning. Enough pro-choice women voted their wallets over their bodies. That was the surprise in 2024, based on the mid-term results.

 

[Elixir]

it was inflation that harmed her chances at winning

It was Trump’s uncanny ability to blame the damage he does on “The Others”.

 

[ZiprHead]

it was inflation that harmed her chances at winning

It was Trump’s uncanny ability to blame the damage he does on “The Others”.

This.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

it was inflation that harmed her chances at winning

It was Trump’s uncanny ability to blame the damage he does on “The Others”.

This.

It helped with turning out the rabid folk but the suburbs were upset that groceries cost more. Thankfully they are cheaper today thanks too transparently useless right wing rhetoric.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

You have gone off on an odd soapbox here. It's like you have entirely failed to comprehend that FPTP isn't the only possible voting system available, and have instead decided to lecture me on the evils of not voting at all as if that has any relevance to my post.

The voting method is irrelevant if districts are far from competitive.

Which was my idea on assigning votes to electors--nobody's voice gets gerrymandered away.

 

[bilby]

Why not have multi-member districts? Give both if the top two (or maybe all of top three) candidates seats, with their votes in the legislative chamber weighted by the number of votes they got.

This also has the advantage that any voter is more likely to have an elected representative they can approach on an issue without being simply dismissed, even if their position is anathema to the candidate who got the most votes.

If you don't want to increase the size of your legislature, you can achieve this by merging adjacent districts into a super-district with the appropriate number of representatives.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Why not have multi-member districts? Give both if the top two (or maybe all of top three) candidates seats, with their votes in the legislative chamber weighted by the number of votes they got.

This also has the advantage that any voter is more likely to have an elected representative they can approach on an issue without being simply dismissed, even if their position is anathema to the candidate who got the most votes.

If you don't want to increase the size of your legislature, you can achieve this by merging adjacent districts into a super-district with the appropriate number of representatives.

I like it. It avoids the need for any tracking of who voted for what like my system requires.

 

[Emily Lake]

You have gone off on an odd soapbox here.

No, I am just disagreeing with some of the things you said.

I disagree with what you're disagreeing about?

Strategic voting for the lesser evil wasn't the intention of FPTP. It's not like FPTP was something people spent a huge amount of time thinking about, and somehow decided it was the best way to get rid of an undesirable leader. FPTP is just the oldest and easiest voting system in existence.

Sure, it can result in getting rid of an undesirable leader without bloodshed... but that's not why it exists as a system, nor why it was selected for US elections. Pretty much it was just what was available at the time. Pretty much any other voting system we've come up with since the 1700s will also get rid of a sucky leader, and will replace them with someone that is more liked by more people with less divisiveness and without inevitably devolving to a two-party system.

 

[Emily Lake]

You have gone off on an odd soapbox here. It's like you have entirely failed to comprehend that FPTP isn't the only possible voting system available, and have instead decided to lecture me on the evils of not voting at all as if that has any relevance to my post.

The voting method is irrelevant if districts are far from competitive.

Will you expand on this? I don't know what you mean.