How the fuck can anyone with a functioning moral compass have any problem with Trump toppling Maduro?
By noting that he had neither the authority nor the right to do so.
The extreme suffering of the Venezuelan people isn't enough?
Extreme? The world has a lot worse, and yet the US military are nowhere to be seen...
Nothing, I am fine, thanks.
Had he gone in in support of a popular revolt, it might have been OK.
Maduro uses the little oil revenue there is to pay for his terror state. Its way harder for a popular uprising to take place in a country rich in natural resources. Because the government can just pay for a terror machine
Sure. So why isn't the US in Saudi Arabia capturing their leaders, or for that matter, in Iran, helping the protestors there?
But he went in in support if stealing someone else's oil,
Sure. But the oil is being stolen now by Maduro. The Venezuelan can only stand to benefit from it.
Maduro is a Venezuelan.
and distracting the US public from Epstein.
Trump was chin deep in scandal before he got reelected. He still got reelected. Why would he care?
Because his ego is his primary concern.
He already knows he's bulletproof.
He knows nothing.
And his dreams of being USA's dictator is not going to happen.
I wish I had your confidence on that matter.
I think the Epstein explanation is stupid.
Why would I care what you think?
I think Trump is an insecure loser with a tiny penis who continually needs to do stuff to boost his fragile orange clown ego.
No disagreement there.
He's also unashamedly a greedy patriot who only sees to USA's immediate economic benefit. He's too dumb to understand the value of soft power.
Nor there.
USA is the big boy and he uses its power as a bully to get stuff.
Yup. Just like any other dictator. So, you were saying his dreams of being USA's dictator is not going to happen; Sounds to me like it is happening.
But in the world of international trade, that can backfire.
Yup.
But Trump is Trump. I doubt he's smart enough to understand that.
Me too.
I think that's a better explanation
I am not sure anyone asked you for an explanation of anything.
How the fuck can anyone with a functioning moral compass think that this is acceptable?
I guess we're different. I like to respect human dignity. I dislike governments terrorising their own people. I think the rest of humanity (ie liberal democracies) have a duty to help them.
So, how are we different?
I applaud USA being the first country making the move.
Oh, you think the US is better than every other country. Yes, I guess we're different; I think the US, like any other country, is only as good as its respect for international law and post WWII diplomatic norms.
I don't care what ulterior motive Trump has.
You should.
This is the right thing to do.
Maybe. Probably not.
Doing something right, by accident, while comitting a crime, is not laudable.
Again, we disagree. I care more about outcome than intention.
A smart person cares about both.
The Maduro regime needs to go.
Then the Venezuelans need to do the deed. They can ask for help, and if they do, it should be forthcoming. But "help" un-asked for is not help, it's agression.
We (Humanity) have given him plenty of chances to mend his ways. Bye bye Maduro. I hope Cuba is next
I hope the US avoids militaristic expansionism. But that hope seems folorn at this point in time.
The US as world hegemon was scary, but the US as an expansionist imperial power is a terrifying prospect. Trump has been taking lessons from his buddy Putin with his C19th 'might is right' attitude. That's a seriously scary attitude for nuclear armed nations to take; It led to two world wars in the C20th, and we seriously can't withstand a third.
The US could easily do to the Americas what the Third Reich did to Europe. Including the "sell out any bits of the world you don't want yet to Russia" part.
The world's policeman just beat the crap out of a suspect. That should scare anyone who cares about justice, even if the suspect is guilty of heinous crimes.
