Immigration Issues

[southernhybrid]

Why was she there? She lived a couple of blocks from the protests and she was a volunteer sent there to try and keep things under control, and report anything the police did as inappropriate. How tragically ironic.

Really? How was she going to keep things "under control"?

This is the sort of nonsense I am talking about when I say so many white women are mentally unhinged. It seems Renee's wife was the one that got her into this situation. This was an easily avoidable event.

I'm not even sure that what I read about her volunteering to watch the protest and report any incidents etc was correct because another source said she was on her way home from dropping her 6 year old son off at school. So, that may be the real reason she was there. Her wife was at the protest, but nobody was harmed other than Reed and she lived in the neighborhood. Our country has permitted peaceful protests, at least prior to the current administration, so how is attending a peaceful protest a nutty thing? The protesters didn't violate any laws, but it sure looks as if ICE did, based on what I've read and seen on the videos.

Plus, you keep making assumptions about women. What about all the men that were at that protest? Were they all mentally ill?

Nobody should be afraid to travel in their own neighborhood due to ICE. It was not Reed's fault as to what happened. She was just trying to get away from some crazy out of control members of ICE. Plus, witnesses said that ICE confused her. One told her to leave the area and another told her to get out of her car. How would you feel if ICE was in your neighborhood while you were running an errand and ICE threatened you? Your frequent remarks that try to make the victim look like she was acting nutty are nutty.

 

[Toni]

A mother-of-three killed by a federal agent during immigration operations in Minneapolis was an anti-ICE 'warrior' who co-ordinated resistance efforts with a network of other activists. Now, Good's friends have revealed she was part of a network of activists co-ordinated through her six-year-old son's charter school who were actively resisting ICE. 'She was a warrior. She died doing what was right,' a mother named Leesa who has a child at the same school as Good's son told The New York Post. '[Renee Good] was trained against these ICE agents — what to do, what not to do, it's a very thorough training.' As part of this training, Good allegedly learned to listen to commands and to understand her rights. According to the publication, the school has publicly boasted of having a 'social justice first' approach to learning and 'involving kids in political and social activism'.

Daily Mail

So, not just a mother out on the school run.

Yeah, just another mother on a school run.

I understand that the narrative being circulated and promoted by a certain segment of the mostly white make manosphere is that good (white) women are properly chaste ( outside of her husband’s bed), pure of heart and so utterly devoted to their man and his offspring and their wellbeing that nary a thought passes through her sweet little brain except to think of how to make her man happier, but that’s, at best, a childish fantasy of what some men believe life was like in the 1950’s or 1850’s, depending on how they feel about persons of color.

Some men need to to be a little less childishly self-obsessed.

 

[Toni]

I'm sharing an article that describes the woman who was murdered by ICE.

The article is behind a paywall but I have read elsewhere she was a lovely, kind and caring woman and a mother of three. She did not deserve to be shot and killed by callous ICE agents. Nobody does.

I don't see any signs of mental illness

Irrational perhaps? Why would she insert herself into the middle of this unfolding situation?

and it doesn't even say if her current partner is male or female, not that it should matter to anyone but an bigoted asshole.

She was indeed in a lesbian relationship with another woman, "married" apparently. Well it was my response to Toni that tool us down that path when Toni said I thought the Renee Good (the victim) should be tending to her man's needs. I merely pointed out that Renee did not have a man in her life as she was a lesbian.

Does it matter? I don't know, maybe it does matter in a wider sense as to why so many women like this get so extreme.

I didn’t say ‘her’ man; I said some man.

Well that makes no sense. Women do not tend to random men's needs so I don't think it is a stretch to assume a woman would be tending to the actual man in her life. Could even be her father. But in Renee's case who knows, perhaps she scrubbed the skid marks off her wife's underwear. Would that be such a bad thing?

But thanks for making it very clear that you believe women need men with ducks to keep them under control and failing that, they are crazy and just need to stay in their homes instead of existing in the world.

*tsk* *tsk* Toni, you are doing it again. Just making stuff up. A terrible habit you have. By the way, I do not own any ducks.

Doubt you have much in the way of dick, either.

You'll never find out.

I’m pretty sure now.

But you will never be certain.

Looks more and more certain all the time...

I am writing this here because I feel the need to publicly apologize for public insults I engaged in. I was out of line. My only excuse is that there is a fair amount of stressful situations in my family right now and I’m expressing some of that stress as anger, undeserved at the easier target of fellow posters because ….well, sometimes fear, and grief come out as anger, sometimes displaced.

My sincere apologies TSwizzle. I will try to do better.

 

[scombrid]

Oh dear, woman suffering extremes TDS fucks around with ICE and finds out.

Why are so many women like this these days? WTF is going on?

I don’t know what is going on with you, TSwizzle, but I think you need to seek immediate professional help.

Can you explain it? Can you explain why so many mentally ill white women are like this? Cea Weaver for example? I think it has a lot to do with indoctrination in the education system myself. Surely you must have noticed these types of events are heavily populated with demented young white women, mostly lesbian, blue hair, pierced etc. And of course the effeminate white soy boys are in attendance but in lesser numbers.

This reminds me of satanic panic horse shit from the 1980s. Let’s just demonize these “others” as dangerous boogeymen while letting the establishment monsters run amok.

 

[scombrid]

Why was she there? She lived a couple of blocks from the protests and she was a volunteer sent there to try and keep things under control, and report anything the police did as inappropriate. How tragically ironic.

Really? How was she going to keep things "under control"?

This is the sort of nonsense I am talking about when I say so many white women are mentally unhinged. It seems Renee's wife was the one that got her into this situation. This was an easily avoidable event.

Plus, you keep making assumptions about women. What about all the men that were at that protest? Were they all mentally ill?

I think “effeminate soy boys” was the description. But that’s from people that aspire to Trump, Hegseth, and Kennedy.

 

[GenesisNemesis]

Why was she there? She lived a couple of blocks from the protests and she was a volunteer sent there to try and keep things under control, and report anything the police did as inappropriate. How tragically ironic.

Really? How was she going to keep things "under control"?

This is the sort of nonsense I am talking about when I say so many white women are mentally unhinged. It seems Renee's wife was the one that got her into this situation. This was an easily avoidable event.

Plus, you keep making assumptions about women. What about all the men that were at that protest? Were they all mentally ill?

I think “effeminate soy boys” was the description. But that’s from people that aspire to Trump, Hegseth, and Kennedy.

I should mention that it's been debunked that soy is bad for men. Of course, Tswizzle doesn't give a fuck about science either though.

 

[TSwizzle]

Yeah, just another mother on a school run.

It seems Renee and her wife we some sort of activists and they were both inserting themselves into the ICE operation for some reason. It's not a narrative, it's just what it is.

I understand that the narrative being circulated and promoted by a certain segment of the mostly white make manosphere is that good (white) women are properly chaste ( outside of her husband’s bed), pure of heart and so utterly devoted to their man and his offspring and their wellbeing that nary a thought passes through her sweet little brain except to think of how to make her man happier, but that’s, at best, a childish fantasy of what some men believe life was like in the 1950’s or 1850’s, depending on how they feel about persons of color.

Tedious.

Some men need to to be a little less childishly self-obsessed.

No doubt. Are these men in the room with you right now?

My sincere apologies TSwizzle.

Stick your "sincere" apology where the sun don't shine, love. I know what you are.

I will try to do better.

No you won't.

 

[crazyfingers]

I don't know if this link to the Boston Globe will share.

Law enforcement 101: Don’t shoot at moving vehicles


The ICE agent who shot a woman in Minneapolis engaged in policing tactics that have been prohibited by most major police departments for years.

But whatever you think about what happened, the ICE agent engaged in tactics that most police departments explicitly prohibit, such as standing in front of a vehicle and shooting at moving vehicles, because of the inherent risks both to law enforcement and the public.

That isn’t opinion, according to those whose job it is to train and protect police officers, it’s a fact. Whatever your eyes or your political persuasion tell you.

Law enforcement 101: Don’t shoot at moving vehicles - The Boston Globe

The ICE agent who shot a woman in Minneapolis engaged in policing tactics that have been prohibited by most major police departments for years.

www.bostonglobe.com

 

[Toni]

Oh dear, woman suffering extremes TDS fucks around with ICE and finds out.

Why are so many women like this these days? WTF is going on?

I don’t know what is going on with you, TSwizzle, but I think you need to seek immediate professional help.

Can you explain it? Can you explain why so many mentally ill white women are like this? Cea Weaver for example? I think it has a lot to do with indoctrination in the education system myself. Surely you must have noticed these types of events are heavily populated with demented young white women, mostly lesbian, blue hair, pierced etc. And of course the effeminate white soy boys are in attendance but in lesser numbers.

This reminds me of satanic panic horse shit from the 1980s. Let’s just demonize these “others” as dangerous boogeymen while letting the establishment monsters run amok.

Don’t need to go back that far. This is very much like 1930’s Germany as Hitler rose to power.

Oh, don’t like the comparison to Nazis and fascists?

Don’t do Nazi or fascist things and don’t espouse their platforms.

 

[Elixir]

From the top

I don't know if this link to the Boston Globe will share.

Law enforcement 101: Don’t shoot at moving vehicles


The ICE agent who shot a woman in Minneapolis engaged in policing tactics that have been prohibited by most major police departments for years.

But whatever you think about what happened, the ICE agent engaged in tactics that most police departments explicitly prohibit, such as standing in front of a vehicle and shooting at moving vehicles, because of the inherent risks both to law enforcement and the public.

That isn’t opinion, according to those whose job it is to train and protect police officers, it’s a fact. Whatever your eyes or your political persuasion tell you.

Law enforcement 101: Don’t shoot at moving vehicles - The Boston Globe

The ICE agent who shot a woman in Minneapolis engaged in policing tactics that have been prohibited by most major police departments for years.

www.bostonglobe.com

From the top: "The domestic terrorist was neutralized by a brave ICE agent who saved his own life taking the only possible action that could have saved him."
Lying liars continue to successfully play their followers for the fools they are.

 

[TSwizzle]

Why was she there? She lived a couple of blocks from the protests and she was a volunteer sent there to try and keep things under control, and report anything the police did as inappropriate. How tragically ironic.

Really? How was she going to keep things "under control"?

This is the sort of nonsense I am talking about when I say so many white women are mentally unhinged. It seems Renee's wife was the one that got her into this situation. This was an easily avoidable event.

I'm not even sure that what I read about her volunteering to watch the protest and report any incidents etc was correct because another source said she was on her way home from dropping her 6 year old son off at school. So, that may be the real reason she was there. Her wife was at the protest, but nobody was harmed other than Reed and she lived in the neighborhood.

The circumstances surrounding what went on are still a little bit murky but it seems both the wife and Renee were protesting the ICE operation and it seems may have been impeding the operation which lead to tragic consequences.

Our country has permitted peaceful protests, at least prior to the current administration, so how is attending a peaceful protest a nutty thing?

Protesting and attending protests are still permitted, nothing has changed there. What may have changed is to what degree law enforcement will tolerate outside the law. Attending a protest is not nutty in itself but it's the behavior of so many unhinged white women, a particular section of them. You know the type, usually gender fluid, white, usually from well off class, pierced, tattoos etc. Very nutty.

The protesters didn't violate any laws, but it sure looks as if ICE did, based on what I've read and seen on the videos.

Most protesters probably were well behaved. Not sure what hey hoped to accomplish. However, there is always that few that push things too far and go beyond just protesting. I suspect that is what happed in this tragic incident.

Plus, you keep making assumptions about women. What about all the men that were at that protest? Were they all mentally ill?

I am sure the usual effeminate soy boys were in attendance.

Nobody should be afraid to travel in their own neighborhood due to ICE. It was not Reed's fault as to what happened.

I'm afraid that Renee made some very poor choices that day.

She was just trying to get away from some crazy out of control members of ICE. Plus, witnesses said that ICE confused her. One told her to leave the area and another told her to get out of her car.

Tragic indeed.

How would you feel if ICE was in your neighborhood while you were running an errand and ICE threatened you?

I would grumble about the necessary inconvenience and go about my day. Why would ICE threaten me? How could ICE threaten me if I was no where near them?

Your frequent remarks that try to make the victim look like she was acting nutty are nutty.

I think what Renee did was irrational and played a part in her demise.

 

[Elixir]

I think what Renee did was irrational and played a part in her demise.

Everyone who dies "plays a part" in their own demise.
The fucking crazy thug with a gun shot a defenseless mother of three who posed no threat to him. Your trumpologetics are consistently stupid and irrational. Suckers like you are why this shit happens and responsible parties are never held to account.

 

[scombrid]

That one looks Jewish and that one’s a coon! Who let all of this riff raff into the room. There’s one smoking a joint and another with spots. If I had my way I’d have all of them shot.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

She was indeed in a lesbian relationship with another woman, "married" apparently. Well it was my response to Toni that took us down that path when Toni said I thought Renee Good (the victim) should be tending to her man's needs. I merely pointed out that Renee did not have a man in her life as she was a lesbian.

Does it matter? I don't know, maybe it does matter in a wider sense as to why so many women like this get so extreme.

Here's a related question: why are so many crazy extremist ICE agents who run around shooting civilians men?

Oh don't bring that up, they'll just claim you're being sexist against men even though by their own "reasoning" men are generally more crazy.

Interestingly, instead of answering this question about extremist aggressive men, TSwizzle has chosen to keep piling on. Meanwhile, these extremist aggressive men continue to kill people.

 

[TSwizzle]

The daily Mail has some bodycam footage of the interaction between ICE agents and Renee and her wife

Crystal-clear new footage shows the moments leading up to the killing of a Minneapolis protester filmed by the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Agent who shot her. Renee Nicole Good, 37, could be seen smiling at Jonathan 'Jon' Ross while sat in her Honda Pilot on Wednesday afternoon and saying 'That's fine dude. I'm not mad,' in a video shot by Ross that was obtained by Minnesota outlet Alpha News. Her wife Rebecca Good, 40, could be heard urging Ross to 'show his face' as she asks him 'you wat to come at us?'
'You want to come at us? I say go get yourself some lunch big boy,' Rebecca said, with her own cellphone in hand. 'Go ahead.'As the tension mounted, Good was told to get out of the car, but ignored orders. She began revving the engine and drove off. Ross's camera then jerks. It is unclear if he was struck by the car or jumped to get out of its way. The ICE agent fired three shots, including one through the front windshield of the Honda, that struck and killed Good. Moments later her car crashed into the back of two cars parked nearby

Daily Mail

What is wrong with these women?

 

[laughing dog]

The daily Mail has some bodycam footage of the interaction between ICE agents and Renee and her wife

Crystal-clear new footage shows the moments leading up to the killing of a Minneapolis protester filmed by the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Agent who shot her. Renee Nicole Good, 37, could be seen smiling at Jonathan 'Jon' Ross while sat in her Honda Pilot on Wednesday afternoon and saying 'That's fine dude. I'm not mad,' in a video shot by Ross that was obtained by Minnesota outlet Alpha News. Her wife Rebecca Good, 40, could be heard urging Ross to 'show his face' as she asks him 'you wat to come at us?'
'You want to come at us? I say go get yourself some lunch big boy,' Rebecca said, with her own cellphone in hand. 'Go ahead.'As the tension mounted, Good was told to get out of the car, but ignored orders. She began revving the engine and drove off. Ross's camera then jerks. It is unclear if he was struck by the car or jumped to get out of its way. The ICE agent fired three shots, including one through the front windshield of the Honda, that struck and killed Good. Moments later her car crashed into the back of two cars parked nearby

Daily Mail

What is wrong with these women?

Ms Good is dead, so there is nothing wrong or right with her.

There is relevant question stemming from your posts. What is wrong with you?

 

[WAB]

She was indeed in a lesbian relationship with another woman, "married" apparently. Well it was my response to Toni that took us down that path when Toni said I thought Renee Good (the victim) should be tending to her man's needs. I merely pointed out that Renee did not have a man in her life as she was a lesbian.

Does it matter? I don't know, maybe it does matter in a wider sense as to why so many women like this get so extreme.

Here's a related question: why are so many crazy extremist ICE agents who run around shooting civilians men?

Oh don't bring that up, they'll just claim you're being sexist against men even though by their own "reasoning" men are generally more crazy.

Interestingly, instead of answering this question about extremist aggressive men, TSwizzle has chosen to keep piling on. Meanwhile, these extremist aggressive men continue to kill people.

Just shot two more in Portland. These two allegedly tied to a Venezuelan gang. Also mentioned vehicle being weaponized and attempting to run over officer. I don't know if video is available yet.

MSN

 

[bilby]

It seems Renee and her wife we some sort of activists and they were both inserting themselves into the ICE operation for some reason.

Perhaps because they foolishly thought that they had a constitutional right to protest about federal government activities in their local community.

I know, it's batshit insane. The very idea - that saying something mean about federal agents who came to your community for reasons to which you object - is not tantamount to suicide by cop is completely nuts.

These lunatics actually think that they have freedom, and that they have the right to say anything they want to about the President and his lackeys.

You would need to be completely nuts to imagine that there was some kind of constitutional right to free assembly, free speech, or criticism of government agents.

 

[bilby]

Next thing you know, people will be thinking that they can disobey orders, without being summarily shot.

Now, I don't know about you, but I think it is obviously a sign of mental illness to imagine that you could be disrespectful and not obey orders, in a free country. What kind of freedom would we have, if people didn't instantly obey any and all orders given to them by government agents?

 

[Elixir]

The daily Mail has some bodycam footage of the interaction between ICE agents and Renee and her wife

Crystal-clear new footage shows the moments leading up to the killing of a Minneapolis protester filmed by the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Agent who shot her. Renee Nicole Good, 37, could be seen smiling at Jonathan 'Jon' Ross while sat in her Honda Pilot on Wednesday afternoon and saying 'That's fine dude. I'm not mad,' in a video shot by Ross that was obtained by Minnesota outlet Alpha News. Her wife Rebecca Good, 40, could be heard urging Ross to 'show his face' as she asks him 'you wat to come at us?'
'You want to come at us? I say go get yourself some lunch big boy,' Rebecca said, with her own cellphone in hand. 'Go ahead.'As the tension mounted, Good was told to get out of the car, but ignored orders. She began revving the engine and drove off. Ross's camera then jerks. It is unclear if he was struck by the car or jumped to get out of its way. The ICE agent fired three shots, including one through the front windshield of the Honda, that struck and killed Good. Moments later her car crashed into the back of two cars parked nearby

Daily Mail

What is wrong with these women?

You.