Yet another war, this time with Iran

[Tigers!]

Factually wrong, like pretty much everything you say.

Check https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_presidents_of_Russia. Medvedev was but a substitute for Putin.

Medvedev was merely a younger looking shell for Putin.

 

[Tigers!]

US economy faces competition from China and India (we are projected to have a bigger economy than US by 2050). That is the reason why US or China are not very happy with India (and befriend Pakistan). Quite natural.

GDP projections from PwC: how China, India and Brazil will overtake the West by 2050

GDP projections from consultancy PwC show how the US, UK and the west will fall far behind the new economic powers like China in GDP by 2050. See what the data says

www.theguardian.com

Wait. This can't be right. Everyone knows that due to Japan's "economic miracle", they surpassed the US economy 26 years ago.

Thing about growth assumptions is they are just that, assumptions, assumptions based on current information, information that does not change going forward.

These articles are written for audiences a lot younger than you or I, audiences that have little memory of the eighties. You should know better.

Though I sad accept that Australia will fall off the list by 2050

 

[crazyfingers]

barbos and Trump have something in common. They both say the most crazy, uninformed, wrong, idiotic shit. It's hard to know if they know that they are spewing idiotic nonsense or if they don't.

I would say that Barbos has fewer roos in his back paddock that Trump. (The more roos your back paddock the worse you are.)
I wonder what the age difference between Trump and Barbos is?

I love to figure out Australian saying. Roos are lies? I'd guess that Trump is older and more eclectic with his lies. B is more of a one trick pony by comparison.

 

[Tigers!]

barbos and Trump have something in common. They both say the most crazy, uninformed, wrong, idiotic shit. It's hard to know if they know that they are spewing idiotic nonsense or if they don't.

I would say that Barbos has fewer roos in his back paddock that Trump. (The more roos your back paddock the worse you are.)
I wonder what the age difference between Trump and Barbos is?

I love to figure out Australian saying. Roos are lies? I'd guess that Trump is older and more eclectic with his lies. B is more of a one trick pony by comparison.

Roos in your back paddock means your thinking is not going well. The more roos the worse the output.

(Roos means kangaroos just in case)

 

[crazyfingers]

barbos and Trump have something in common. They both say the most crazy, uninformed, wrong, idiotic shit. It's hard to know if they know that they are spewing idiotic nonsense or if they don't.

I would say that Barbos has fewer roos in his back paddock that Trump. (The more roos your back paddock the worse you are.)
I wonder what the age difference between Trump and Barbos is?

I love to figure out Australian saying. Roos are lies? I'd guess that Trump is older and more eclectic with his lies. B is more of a one trick pony by comparison.

Roos in your back paddock means your thinking is not going well. The more roos the worse the output.

(Roos means kangaroos just in case)

Cool. I knew the Roos part from the Australian coast watcher, played by Stanley Holloway, in the Otto Preminger WWII movie In Harm's Way. He explained about the bloody Roos.... and other places

 

[barbos]

My counter point is that Austria and Switzerland are surrounded by NATO countries and yet they have no fear of NATO

For fuck's sake, NATO have already invaded Russia (in Kursk)

Sigh.
1. Ukraine invaded Russia near Kursk
2. Ukraine is not part of Nato
3. Ergo Nato did not invade Russia near Kursk.

1. Ukraine is a NATO proxy (Arestovich said so)
2. Ergo NATO invaded Russia

 

[barbos]

barbos and Trump have something in common. They both say the most crazy, uninformed, wrong, idiotic shit. It's hard to know if they know that they are spewing idiotic nonsense or if they don't.

You are projecting.

 

[barbos]

My counter point is that Austria and Switzerland are surrounded by NATO countries and yet they have no fear of NATO

For fuck's sake, NATO have already invaded Russia (in Kursk)

You do know that "NATO" refers to a clearly defined organisation, made up of treaty signatories acting in accordance with the treaty that defines that organisation, right?

"NATO" isn't just a generic shorthand for "people who have reason to dislike Russia". You know that, right?

Because you appear to be using "NATO" in such a way as to make you look like a dishonest idiot, or a crazy conspiracy theorist, or a propagandist loon with no regard for facts.

Current Ukraine is a proxy for US/NATO, period.
You are the one looking like a dishonest idiot

 

[barbos]

"NATO" isn't just a generic shorthand for "people who have reason to dislike Russia". You know that, right?

Ukraine had no reason to dislike Russia until US/NATO put "people who have "reason to dislike Russia" a.k.a nazis into power.

 

[bilby]

barbos and Trump have something in common. They both say the most crazy, uninformed, wrong, idiotic shit. It's hard to know if they know that they are spewing idiotic nonsense or if they don't.

Both are probably making a bit of moolah from it, though I doubt that barbos is in Trump's league.

 

[bilby]

1. Ukraine is a NATO proxy (Arestovich said so)

Did he mention under which Article of the North Atlantic Treaty this was a possibility?

Did anyone in NATO authorise him to make announcements on behalf of the organisation? It seems unlikely that they would give that authority to a person who was not even a citizen of a NATO state, much less a representative of the organisation itself.

It appears that you are unaware that some people say shit that ain't so. Which is odd when we consider that you see one every time you shave.

 

[bilby]

My counter point is that Austria and Switzerland are surrounded by NATO countries and yet they have no fear of NATO

For fuck's sake, NATO have already invaded Russia (in Kursk)

You do know that "NATO" refers to a clearly defined organisation, made up of treaty signatories acting in accordance with the treaty that defines that organisation, right?

"NATO" isn't just a generic shorthand for "people who have reason to dislike Russia". You know that, right?

Because you appear to be using "NATO" in such a way as to make you look like a dishonest idiot, or a crazy conspiracy theorist, or a propagandist loon with no regard for facts.

Current Ukraine is a proxy for US/NATO, period.
You are the one looking like a dishonest idiot

Really? Which NATO Article allows the adoption of nation state proxies?

 

[bilby]

"NATO" isn't just a generic shorthand for "people who have reason to dislike Russia". You know that, right?

Ukraine had no reason to dislike Russia until US/NATO put "people who have "reason to dislike Russia" a.k.a nazis into power.

Which was it, US or NATO?

And why would Russia expect a nation that it is undermining, and to whom it is attempting to dictate, not to dislike Russia all on its own?

If you don't want neigbouring countries to dislike you, step one is not to steal territory from them.

 

[barbos]

My counter point is that Austria and Switzerland are surrounded by NATO countries and yet they have no fear of NATO

For fuck's sake, NATO have already invaded Russia (in Kursk)

You do know that "NATO" refers to a clearly defined organisation, made up of treaty signatories acting in accordance with the treaty that defines that organisation, right?

"NATO" isn't just a generic shorthand for "people who have reason to dislike Russia". You know that, right?

Because you appear to be using "NATO" in such a way as to make you look like a dishonest idiot, or a crazy conspiracy theorist, or a propagandist loon with no regard for facts.

Current Ukraine is a proxy for US/NATO, period.
You are the one looking like a dishonest idiot

Really? Which NATO Article allows the adoption of nation state proxies?

yes really, unspoken one. The one which was used to attack Yugoslavia.

 

[barbos]

Which was it, US or NATO?

NATO=US

And why would Russia expect a nation that it is undermining, and to whom it is attempting to dictate, not to dislike Russia all on its own?

Russia has not dictated Ukraine anything even when regime installed by the west started naming streets after WW2 nazis. And yes, Russia should have had a right to a certain dictate in Ukraine because of economic help we were providing, $250bil of that.

 

[bilby]

NATO=US

You=Idiot.

 

[barbos]

NATO=US

You=Idiot.

Nope, it's you.

 

[bilby]

NATO=US

You=Idiot.

Nope, it's you.

OK.

you=Idiot.

 

[barbos]

The West is clearly dying, at least they think they are dying.

 

[bilby]

The West is clearly dying, at least they think they are dying.

Why would I care? I live at longitude 153°E. That's 20° further East than Vladivostok.