How should west respond to Russian invasion of Ukraine?

[barbos]

If watching your economy go off a cliff is as you see fit then have at it. You're in the driver's seat.

Keep wetting yourself, Barack.

 

[barbos]

 

[barbos]

 

[Tigers!]

Sevastopol is not shipping much Russian produce lately.

Sevastopol was never shipping any "produce" It's a navy base.

So how many Russian naval ships use Sevastopol then?
Sevastopol is not exclusively a naval base but also a major port. But of course you knew that.

Major Crimean Ports

• • Port of Kerch: Located on the eastern edge near the Kerch Strait, handling bulk cargo, passengers, and ferries.
  • Port of Feodosia: Situated on the Black Sea coast, equipped for dry cargo and oil product transfers.
  • Sevastopol: A historic deep-water harbor and primary naval base for the region.
  • Yalta and Yevpatoria: Southern and western coastal facilities historically focused on local transport and passenger/cruise services.
  So which of those ports have maritime traffic similar or equal to Feb. 2022?

 

[Tigers!]

That mist make you feel really good Barbos.

Absolutely! Where have yopu been when Kiev regime was attacking ships with russian grain?

It is indeed peculiar that the attacks on ships carrying Russian grain occurred after Feb 2023.
Perhaps you could tell us what happened in Feb. 2023?

 

[barbos]

That mist make you feel really good Barbos.

Absolutely! Where have yopu been when Kiev regime was attacking ships with russian grain?

It is indeed peculiar that the attacks on ships carrying Russian grain occurred after Feb 2023.
Perhaps you could tell us what happened in Feb. 2023?

Don't know what happened in Feb. 2023.
But I do know what happened in June/July of 2026. Nazi regime attacked Russian grain ships.
So Russia ls no longer obligated to let Ukrainian grain to pass.

 

[Bronzeage]

That mist make you feel really good Barbos.

Absolutely! Where have yopu been when Kiev regime was attacking ships with russian grain?

Watching them burn on You Tube.

That's what happens in a war and there's nothing Russia can do about it.

Yep. Odessa is fully blocked. Thanks to idiot in Kiev.

You can still buy a tank of gasoline in Odessa, but in Russia you can't fill up your tank, or buy a gas can from Wildberries.

 

[barbos]

That mist make you feel really good Barbos.

Absolutely! Where have yopu been when Kiev regime was attacking ships with russian grain?

Watching them burn on You Tube.

That's what happens in a war and there's nothing Russia can do about it.

Yep. Odessa is fully blocked. Thanks to idiot in Kiev.

You can still buy a tank of gasoline in Odessa, but in Russia you can't fill up your tank, or buy a gas can from Wildberries.

How do you know that?

 

[barbos]

So how many Russian naval ships use Sevastopol then?

Don't know and if I knew I would not be telling you cause that would be military secret.

 

[barbos]

This new Kiev Regime supreme commander is a real piece of shit war criminal.
WB, now he is attacking people on Black Sea beaches of Krasnodar. 8 dead including 3 children.

 

[ZiprHead]

Meanwhile rumors are. New British PM is not so hot (to say teh least) on Ukraine. So coalition of the assholes is crumbling. Macron is out by law in early 2027, Burnham does not want to hear about Ukraine at all. Fuhrer Merz is on his way out after elections. Yeah, and Trump despite recent impression of turning back toward Ukraine is no such thing.
The way it's going, I would not be surprised that Kiev regime collapses this Autumn .

Nostradamus you are not. You've been predicting this for 5 years. Newsflash, every sane person wants this war to end. Most people would love to return to peace and even to trade with Russia. But if Trump can't convince utin to make peace concessions, noone can. I think that the war will continue until utin is dead or out of power.

Russia made a lot concessions, west broke all agreements and started the war. Right now Russia has zero trust in any diplomacy with western regime.
You assholes started this war. And it will end as we see fit.
But I would be very disappointed if Elensky&Co are still alive in the end.

Russia hasn't made any concessions. They continue to demand that Ukraine vacate their fortified positions, reduce their defensive forces to 50,000, disarm and not allow any westerners into their country. And if they agree to this, Russia will stop fighting. And sign a peace agreement. The problem is that Russia is not trustworthy. Two or three months later, Russia will reinvade. And the war will continue.

Russia made huge concessions when we agreed to leave East Germany.
You violated all promises about NATO expansion.

No one ever promised no NATO expansion.

 

[steve_bank]

This new Kiev Regime supreme commander is a real piece of shit war criminal.
WB, now he is attacking people on Black Sea beaches of Krasnodar. 8 dead including 3 children.

I cud not bring myself to celebrate deaths in war, but if I echoed what you said about Ukraine I'd say I am glad the children died.

Kill them all, wipe out all Russian children.

 

[Elixir]

Kill them all, wipe out all Russian children.

Pffft. They’ll just buy more children from the little sawed-off dictator in NK.

 

[Bronzeage]

That mist make you feel really good Barbos.

Absolutely! Where have yopu been when Kiev regime was attacking ships with russian grain?

Watching them burn on You Tube.

That's what happens in a war and there's nothing Russia can do about it.

Yep. Odessa is fully blocked. Thanks to idiot in Kiev.

You can still buy a tank of gasoline in Odessa, but in Russia you can't fill up your tank, or buy a gas can from Wildberries.

How do you know that?

Because there is plenty of gasoline in Ukraine and not enough in Russia. Wildberries is losing a warehouse a day and there is nothing Russia can do about it.

 

[Harry Bosch]

That mist make you feel really good Barbos.

Absolutely! Where have yopu been when Kiev regime was attacking ships with russian grain?

Watching them burn on You Tube.

That's what happens in a war and there's nothing Russia can do about it.

Yep. Odessa is fully blocked. Thanks to idiot in Kiev.

You can still buy a tank of gasoline in Odessa, but in Russia you can't fill up your tank, or buy a gas can from Wildberries.

How do you know that?

Because there is plenty of gasoline in Ukraine and not enough in Russia. Wildberries is losing a warehouse a day and there is nothing Russia can do about it.

I disagree. There is something that they can do. They could agree to a cease fire. They could agree to negotiate in good faith with the goal of a real peace (not with the goal of ensuring a weak Ukraine that is a weak, and are easy prey in the future), and the war would end tomorrow.

 

[Tigers!]

So how many Russian naval ships use Sevastopol then?

Don't know and if I knew I would not be telling you cause that would be military secret.

With satellites/drones these days there are not many secrets.

 

[Bronzeage]

So how many Russian naval ships use Sevastopol then?

Don't know and if I knew I would not be telling you cause that would be military secret.

It's no secret that the Russian Naval vessels in Sevastopol are there because the don't float anymore.

 

[barbos]

Meanwhile rumors are. New British PM is not so hot (to say teh least) on Ukraine. So coalition of the assholes is crumbling. Macron is out by law in early 2027, Burnham does not want to hear about Ukraine at all. Fuhrer Merz is on his way out after elections. Yeah, and Trump despite recent impression of turning back toward Ukraine is no such thing.
The way it's going, I would not be surprised that Kiev regime collapses this Autumn .

Nostradamus you are not. You've been predicting this for 5 years. Newsflash, every sane person wants this war to end. Most people would love to return to peace and even to trade with Russia. But if Trump can't convince utin to make peace concessions, noone can. I think that the war will continue until utin is dead or out of power.

Russia made a lot concessions, west broke all agreements and started the war. Right now Russia has zero trust in any diplomacy with western regime.
You assholes started this war. And it will end as we see fit.
But I would be very disappointed if Elensky&Co are still alive in the end.

Russia hasn't made any concessions. They continue to demand that Ukraine vacate their fortified positions, reduce their defensive forces to 50,000, disarm and not allow any westerners into their country. And if they agree to this, Russia will stop fighting. And sign a peace agreement. The problem is that Russia is not trustworthy. Two or three months later, Russia will reinvade. And the war will continue.

Russia made huge concessions when we agreed to leave East Germany.
You violated all promises about NATO expansion.

No one ever promised no NATO expansion.

(deleted)

 

[barbos]

That mist make you feel really good Barbos.

Absolutely! Where have yopu been when Kiev regime was attacking ships with russian grain?

Watching them burn on You Tube.

That's what happens in a war and there's nothing Russia can do about it.

Yep. Odessa is fully blocked. Thanks to idiot in Kiev.

You can still buy a tank of gasoline in Odessa, but in Russia you can't fill up your tank, or buy a gas can from Wildberries.

How do you know that?

Because there is plenty of gasoline in Ukraine and not enough in Russia. Wildberries is losing a warehouse a day and there is nothing Russia can do about it.

No, Odessa in particular get their fuel by sea normally.... and it is now fully blocked.

 

[barbos]

That mist make you feel really good Barbos.

Absolutely! Where have yopu been when Kiev regime was attacking ships with russian grain?

Watching them burn on You Tube.

That's what happens in a war and there's nothing Russia can do about it.

Yep. Odessa is fully blocked. Thanks to idiot in Kiev.

You can still buy a tank of gasoline in Odessa, but in Russia you can't fill up your tank, or buy a gas can from Wildberries.

How do you know that?

Because there is plenty of gasoline in Ukraine and not enough in Russia. Wildberries is losing a warehouse a day and there is nothing Russia can do about it.

I disagree. There is something that they can do. They could agree to a cease fire. They could agree to negotiate in good faith with the goal of a real peace (not with the goal of ensuring a weak Ukraine that is a weak, and are easy prey in the future), and the war would end tomorrow.

Why? 40 days drone offensive is officially over. Elensky said so. Result are not great for Ukraine.