How should west respond to Russian invasion of Ukraine?

[barbos]

So how many Russian naval ships use Sevastopol then?

Don't know and if I knew I would not be telling you cause that would be military secret.

With satellites/drones these days there are not many secrets.

Tell that to KGB

 

[barbos]

 

[Bronzeage]

That mist make you feel really good Barbos.

Absolutely! Where have yopu been when Kiev regime was attacking ships with russian grain?

Watching them burn on You Tube.

That's what happens in a war and there's nothing Russia can do about it.

Yep. Odessa is fully blocked. Thanks to idiot in Kiev.

You can still buy a tank of gasoline in Odessa, but in Russia you can't fill up your tank, or buy a gas can from Wildberries.

How do you know that?

Because there is plenty of gasoline in Ukraine and not enough in Russia. Wildberries is losing a warehouse a day and there is nothing Russia can do about it.

No, Odessa in particular get their fuel by sea normally.... and it is now fully blocked.

Just because Russia has to buy gasoline from India and ship it through the Black Sea, that doesn't mean Ukraine must do the same. It turns out you can get a gas can from Wildberries because 180 warehouses haven't been bombed yet. Better hurry because there's nothing Russia can do to stop the rest of them from burning to the ground.

 

[barbos]

That mist make you feel really good Barbos.

Absolutely! Where have yopu been when Kiev regime was attacking ships with russian grain?

Watching them burn on You Tube.

That's what happens in a war and there's nothing Russia can do about it.

Yep. Odessa is fully blocked. Thanks to idiot in Kiev.

You can still buy a tank of gasoline in Odessa, but in Russia you can't fill up your tank, or buy a gas can from Wildberries.

How do you know that?

Because there is plenty of gasoline in Ukraine and not enough in Russia. Wildberries is losing a warehouse a day and there is nothing Russia can do about it.

No, Odessa in particular get their fuel by sea normally.... and it is now fully blocked.

Just because Russia has to buy gasoline from India and ship it through the Black Sea, that doesn't mean Ukraine must do the same. It turns out you can get a gas can from Wildberries because 180 warehouses haven't been bombed yet. Better hurry because there's nothing Russia can do to stop the rest of them from burning to the ground.

You don't impress us with your terrorism.

 

[barbos]

 

[TV and credit cards]

Of course I didn’t watch that. Just the title is humorous.
Read today’s, August 5th’s ISW write up.
Failure my ass.
And I hope you’re not under the naive assumption it’s over. Odds are, Ukraine is planning the coordination of the next events. See, the Ukrainian military doesn’t just indiscriminately bomb shit to bomb shit like apartment buildings and vegetable vendors so they can tell their president they’re doing something. Your military throws bombs in the air like it throws lives at the front line.

 

[steve_bank]

Russia's history of commercial aviation is not good.

I'd fly on a Chinese jet, not a Russian.

No history of industrial quality control on a par with Europe, USA and the industrialized west. And now China.

My guess is the systems are copies of Airbus.

 

[Bronzeage]

That mist make you feel really good Barbos.

Absolutely! Where have yopu been when Kiev regime was attacking ships with russian grain?

Watching them burn on You Tube.

That's what happens in a war and there's nothing Russia can do about it.

Yep. Odessa is fully blocked. Thanks to idiot in Kiev.

You can still buy a tank of gasoline in Odessa, but in Russia you can't fill up your tank, or buy a gas can from Wildberries.

How do you know that?

Because there is plenty of gasoline in Ukraine and not enough in Russia. Wildberries is losing a warehouse a day and there is nothing Russia can do about it.

No, Odessa in particular get their fuel by sea normally.... and it is now fully blocked.

Just because Russia has to buy gasoline from India and ship it through the Black Sea, that doesn't mean Ukraine must do the same. It turns out you can get a gas can from Wildberries because 180 warehouses haven't been bombed yet. Better hurry because there's nothing Russia can do to stop the rest of them from burning to the ground.

You don't impress us with your terrorism.

It's only terrorism if Russia could do something about it.

 

[steve_bank]

The Soviet Union based in an ideology of violent overthrow of western systems tried to compete economically with the west, and collapsed.

Putin is a continuation. He maintains the Soviet anti west posture and refuses to normalize relations with Europe. IOW maintaining the artificial conflict and Russian fear mongering. NATO is out to get us. As a result like the Soviets Putin's Russia can not fully develop its economy on a global scale despite its abundant resource.

Dictators lie Putin, and our wannabe dictator Trump, need enemies to focus people on.

 

[ZiprHead]

Why? 40 days drone offensive is officially over. Elensky said so. Result are not great for Ukraine.

Uh huh...

Ukraine’s 40-day "influence and pressure" campaign, authorized by President Volodymyr Zelenskyy on June 25–26, 2026, officially concluded around August 4, 2026. While the specific deadline has passed and did not force an immediate Kremlin-led ceasefire or end to the war, the intensive deep-strike and drone operation yielded substantial strategic outcomes. [1, 2, 3]

Campaign Scope & Results

• • Targets Hit: Over 100 strategic Russian assets and economic hubs were struck, including hitting all 11 of Russia's largest oil refineries. [1]
  • Logistics & Fuel Strain: Operations heavily disrupted Russian military logistics, fuel networks in occupied territories, and supply lines in Crimea, causing regional shortages. [1, 2]
  • Record Distances: The campaign featured historic long-range drone milestones, including strikes reaching deep into Russian territory such as the Omsk region. [1]

 

[TV and credit cards]

EU releases €1.4 Billion to Ukraine from frozen Russian asset profits after Kyiv attacks

Not to worry, barbos. Ukraine will be forwarding this to Russia in-kind.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Putin knows Russia falls apart if he loses.

We would likely know if he loses because his goons will have to go home - back to Russia or NK or wherever Pootey got them from.
But how could we tell if Russia “falls apart”?
What does that even mean? It’s not going to fracture into a bunch of itty bitty countries, and as a unit it is already at or close to peak dysfunction. So, what are the signs?

There are other provinces that would like to leave but are fearful of doing so.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Why not?

Because the Army has all the money.

Many would love self-rule, if that didn't imply getting crushed by the Russian army.

Uh huh. So I hear. The Russian Army is structured such that if region X needs a lesson, they can send in troops from regions Y and Z, so they are freely sadistic. No tanks required.

The tanks he was talking about are not purely physical. Those troops from Y and Z got cut to bits in Ukraine.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Mearsheimer continues to be tone deaf to the reality of the difference between the Ukrainian population's resolve to keep resisting invasion and the Russian population's resolve to keep invading. Ukrainians are more willing to undergo hardship to maintain their liberty and independence than Russia is to suppress it. Both sides have caused enormous damage to each other, but shutting down Ukrainian ports only means that Ukraine exports most of its goods now through the untouchable Romanian port of Constanta. The volume of goods is reduced, but the country is not fully "landlocked" in the way that Mearsheimer describes it. He is clearly an advocate for Russia expanding its empire into Ukraine, but he has consistently underestimated the ability of Ukraine to survive even in the face of massive devastation to its infrastructure.

Mearsheimer fancies himself a "realist", but reality does not like dictators. He did not foresee Putin's NATO ally, Viktor Orban, taking a nosedive in Hungary. He also did not see Europe's resolve to increase its support for Ukraine as Putin's American asset, Donald Trump, tried to help Putin prevail. Now even Trump is turning his back on Putin, albeit reluctantly.

Of course. Russia has made it clear their intent in Ukraine is genocidal. They've done it before, they intend to do it again. Of course they are facing very stiff resistance.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

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It's even better, according to ukrainian president, ukrainian casualties (over whole period) reduced from 55K to 50K. In other words, some dead were resurrected. That's right, Elensky is resurrecting the dead.

No resurrection needed. This is extremely common in situations where the dead are not able to be quickly enumerated. The reality is that in confusion the dead show up more than once. Over time the records get sorted out, they figure out that dead person A is actually the same person as dead person B. It is unusual in war because ongoing casualties generally exceed the noise--but at this point you're basically feeding troops into the drones.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Sevastopol is not shipping much Russian produce lately.

Sevastopol was never shipping any "produce" It's a navy base.

Even if it were only a navy base it would still need to ship stuff--the purpose of a navy base is to support a fleet. But when your ships put in to port to resupply they tend to get promoted to submarine.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

This new Kiev Regime supreme commander is a real piece of shit war criminal.
WB, now he is attacking people on Black Sea beaches of Krasnodar. 8 dead including 3 children.

No, you attacked that beach.

Specifically, you shot down a Ukranian drone at a position that caused the wreckage to fall on the beach.

 

[steve_bank]

A take on old WWII joke. Americans and Germans.

A Russian soldier thought he would be clever. He shouted ‘Is that you Oleksandr?’ Thinking the Ukrainian would pop up and he would shoot him.

The Ukrainian responded shouting ‘Is that you Boris?’ The Russian stood up saying ‘Yes it is me’, and the Ukrainian shot him in ten head.

 

[Harry Bosch]

The Soviet Union based in an ideology of violent overthrow of western systems tried to compete economically with the west, and collapsed.

Putin is a continuation. He maintains the Soviet anti west posture and refuses to normalize relations with Europe. IOW maintaining the artificial conflict and Russian fear mongering. NATO is out to get us. As a result like the Soviets Putin's Russia can not fully develop its economy on a global scale despite its abundant resource.

Dictators lie Putin, and our wannabe dictator Trump, need enemies to focus people on.

Yes! It’s funny that Barbos believes that the cia is forcing all the Eastern European countries to the west! We don’t need the cia for this! It’s the easiest sell in the world. Please trade and parter with the west, we won’t invade you and steal and steal your land.

 

[barbos]

This new Kiev Regime supreme commander is a real piece of shit war criminal.
WB, now he is attacking people on Black Sea beaches of Krasnodar. 8 dead including 3 children.

No, you attacked that beach.

Specifically, you shot down a Ukranian drone at a position that caused the wreckage to fall on the beach.

Nope, video shows it was undamaged.
it's clear that Kiev Regime is desperate and openly attacks civilians.
They don't hide their intentions anymore.