How should west respond to Russian invasion of Ukraine?

[barbos]

russophobes should expect a rude awakening

 

[TV and credit cards]

Ukraine is 100% dependent on the Western help and weapons.

We're more than happy to give them your money.

 

[bilby]

They were years ago (over four now)... back when the initial Russian shock and awe campaign failed.

It did not fail, we now know that.

Wait, what? The war ended with a Russian victory more than four years ago?

Hiding that fact from the world for so long is an absolute masterpiece of propaganda.

It was reveled that Putin was fooled by Macron&Co.

Oh. So it DID fail, but you have an excuse.

That's not the same thing as "It did not fail". At all.

 

[ZiprHead]

Ukraine is 100% dependent on the Western help and weapons.

And who are your friends? The biggest dipshits in the world. Kim, the Iran Ayatollahs, puppy kickers.

 

[bilby]

It's truly bizarre that an apparently quite intelligent person could actually believe that NATO forces attempted, or even planned, to invade Russia.

Obvious propaganda bullshit is obvious.

It's trully bizzare that you apparently believe what you just said.
Of course US/NATO did not directly send these "former" marines to Russia.

Well, that's what I just said.

But they will not be prosecuted for mercenary work

Why would they? It's not illegal to be a mercenary.

and will be reinstated in US army with great honors. And we know that NATO directly involved in planing/targeting Ukrainian forces operation in "Ukraine" and absolutely involved in strikes deep inside Russia.

Hang on, you just said "Of course US/NATO did not directly send these "former" marines to Russia".

Make your mind up; Is NATO "directly" involved, or not?

I have said million times that US cannot initiate direct conflict with Russia.

So you say you were lying when you just said "And we know that NATO directly involved in planing/targeting Ukrainian forces operation in "Ukraine" and absolutely involved in strikes deep inside Russia"? Or what?

You appear deeply confused.

 

[Tigers!]

It's adorable Moscow Bob thinks I'm "EU". Or that I even live in that hemisphere. I would have thought my liberal use of the word "cunt" might have been a giveaway but evidently not.

What is adorable is that you think Australia is the most of the world.

Get used to it mate. In hell you will be speaking strine

 

[Elixir]

So good job on Russia giving Ukraine enough time to adjust to re-write the rules of war.

FIFY

 

[barbos]

Ukraine is 100% dependent on the Western help and weapons.

We're more than happy to give them your money.

No, you are giving them your money.
You will return all our money one way or another.

 

[barbos]

Wait, what? The war ended with a Russian victory more than four years ago?

It ended with Macron fooling Putin.

 

[barbos]

Oh. So it DID fail, but you have an excuse.

It was not military fail, as western assholes try to portray.

 

[barbos]

Ukraine is 100% dependent on the Western help and weapons.

And who are your friends? The biggest dipshits in the world. Kim, the Iran Ayatollahs, puppy kickers.

EU rats are bigger dipshits than Kim and Ayatollahs.

 

[barbos]

Why would they? It's not illegal to be a mercenary.

It is geneally illegal.

 

[barbos]

It's truly bizarre that an apparently quite intelligent person could actually believe that NATO forces attempted, or even planned, to invade Russia.

Obvious propaganda bullshit is obvious.

It's trully bizzare that you apparently believe what you just said.
Of course US/NATO did not directly send these "former" marines to Russia.

Well, that's what I just said.

But they will not be prosecuted for mercenary work

Why would they? It's not illegal to be a mercenary.

and will be reinstated in US army with great honors. And we know that NATO directly involved in planing/targeting Ukrainian forces operation in "Ukraine" and absolutely involved in strikes deep inside Russia.

Hang on, you just said "Of course US/NATO did not directly send these "former" marines to Russia".

Make your mind up; Is NATO "directly" involved, or not?

Yes, NATO is directly involved. That is my opinion. Yes, Putin failed to observe red line and allowed NATO to have fig leaf protection of "no offficial nato troops"

I have said million times that US cannot initiate direct conflict with Russia.

So you say you were lying when you just said "And we know that NATO directly involved in planing/targeting Ukrainian forces operation in "Ukraine" and absolutely involved in strikes deep inside Russia"? Or what?

You appear deeply confused.

That's what Marco admitted and your beloved Biden too.

 

[barbos]

Yes, Putin failed to observe red line and allowed NATO to have fig leaf protection of "no offficial nato troops"

more to that point:

 

[TV and credit cards]

This morning's ISW report is largely about the Russian economy centering around "Russian state-owned bank Vnesheconombank (VEB) fired Chief Economist Andrey Klepach" getting sacked for letting the truth slip out. The write-up isn't anything followers of this thread don't already know or at least suspect.
One passage did stand out to me, thinking, if you want accurate polling on how Russians feel about the state of their nation, look no further than this passage:

The Washington Post reported on August 18, citing Russian Central Bank data, that Russians withdrew 286.4 billion rubles (about $4.5 billion) in June 2026, $7.3 billion in July 2026, and $3.4 billion in the first two weeks of August 2026.[13] A senior executive at Sberbank, Russia’s biggest retail financial institution noted that withdrawals in 2026 may end up being nearly double those of 2022. A bank run, combined with the other factors contributing to Russian economic decline, may pose serious domestic challenges for the Kremlin in the run up to the September 18-20, 2026, State Duma elections. The significance of those challenges is increased by reports that Putin is considering and preparing for a large-scale mobilization after the election.

This is the effect of Wildberries (10% of retail sales) going up in smoke. This is the effect of not being able to refine enough of your own oil to fuel your economy. This is the effect of a two tier economy that provides preferential funding for the defense industry while all other businesses suffer high interest rates, labor shortages, and inflation. This is what happens when there is no check on executive power.

 

[barbos]

someone is desperate

 

[bilby]

someone is desperate

I'm sorry to hear that. Desperation is a terrible thing. Have you tried talking it through with a therapist; Or drinking a few pints of vodka?

 

[Harry Bosch]

someone is desperate

I'm sorry to hear that. Desperation is a terrible thing. Have you tried talking it through with a therapist; Or drinking a few pints of vodka?

I don't blame Barbos for feeling desperate. 4.5 years of war. Very little progress. Rubble is in the toilet. Russian stock market no bueno. High inflation. High interest rate. I hear that Russian government is getting ready to start stealing Russian civilians checking accounts as they are running out of money.

 

[barbos]

Good lecture for you russophobes:

 

[TV and credit cards]

Black Sea Fleet.

Russia May Have Lost Two Kalibr Missile Carriers — Admiral Makarov and Admiral Essen

Russian Black Sea Fleet frigates Admiral Makarov and Admiral Essen were seriously damaged during the August 12 strike on the Novorossiysk naval base.

The OSINT website Absolutely Reliable Source published a satellite image that appears to show damage to the launch systems. This suggests that the frigates may have lost the ability to launch Kalibr missiles, although the exact extent of the damage to the ships has not been officially disclosed.