How should west respond to Russian invasion of Ukraine?

[barbos]

it's difficult to see how Ukraine can survive an enemy that isn't beholden to world opinion or its own people

Contrary to western propaganda, Russia's own people want to fuck Ukraine up.

 

[barbos]

Oh, it's starting. It's just a matter of resources to minimally train and outfit the fodder.

Right, and video is from 2022.
Menwhile in Ukraine, Kiev regime wants to equate convicted criminals in the army with soldiers withougt criminal history.
The goal is apparently to allow criminals to surve in T-Ts-K (mobilization goons)

 

[Bronzeage]

it's difficult to see how Ukraine can survive an enemy that isn't beholden to world opinion or its own people

Contrary to western propaganda, Russia's own people want to fuck Ukraine up.

I'm sure they do, but only if someone else does the fucking up. I don't expect to see Tiktok videos of Russian soldiers charging the Ukrainian line yelling "For Putin, Wildberries, and Gazprom!

When Putin announces the mobilization, there will be a rush for the exits and a lot of traffic on Russia Bride websites.

 

[barbos]

it's difficult to see how Ukraine can survive an enemy that isn't beholden to world opinion or its own people

Contrary to western propaganda, Russia's own people want to fuck Ukraine up.

I'm sure they do, but only if someone else does the fucking up. I don't expect to see Tiktok videos of Russian soldiers charging the Ukrainian line yelling "For Putin, Wildberries, and Gazprom!

When Putin announces the mobilization, there will be a rush for the exits and a lot of traffic on Russia Bride websites.

You seem to forget that it's ukrainins who keep drowning in Tisza river and there are way more ukrinian males abroad than russians abroad.

 

[barbos]

Meanwhile, recent russian strikes targeted internet infrastructure in Ukraine.

 

[Bronzeage]

it's difficult to see how Ukraine can survive an enemy that isn't beholden to world opinion or its own people

Contrary to western propaganda, Russia's own people want to fuck Ukraine up.

I'm sure they do, but only if someone else does the fucking up. I don't expect to see Tiktok videos of Russian soldiers charging the Ukrainian line yelling "For Putin, Wildberries, and Gazprom!

When Putin announces the mobilization, there will be a rush for the exits and a lot of traffic on Russia Bride websites.

You seem to forget that it's ukrainins who keep drowning in Tisza river and there are way more ukrinian males abroad than russians abroad.

What difference does that make? Russia can't replace daily battle losses with contract soldiers. The western regions have been stripped of military age men. This means actual Russians from Moscow and St Petersburg will called up. You'll be here telling us how well it's going while a thousand die every day.

An army of poorly trained unmotivated conscript soldiers who couldn't evade the draft isn't going to help.

 

[barbos]

Russia can't replace daily battle losses with contract soldiers.

Says who?

 

[Harry Bosch]

it's difficult to see how Ukraine can survive an enemy that isn't beholden to world opinion or its own people

Contrary to western propaganda, Russia's own people want to fuck Ukraine up.

?? This is a bizarre statement. Of course Russia wants to fuck up Ukraine. Why do you think that Ukranians are fighting so hard to stop this? There will be a bloodbath if the Ruskies win.

 

[barbos]

it's difficult to see how Ukraine can survive an enemy that isn't beholden to world opinion or its own people

Contrary to western propaganda, Russia's own people want to fuck Ukraine up.

?? This is a bizarre statement. Of course Russia wants to fuck up Ukraine. Why do you think that Ukranians are fighting so hard to stop this? There will be a bloodbath if the Ruskies win.

You two need to agree whether or not Ukraine's "enemy" beholden to the opinion of its own people.
And the world is not on Ukraine's side. Poland certainly is not

 

[ZiprHead]

Oh, it's starting. It's just a matter of resources to minimally train and outfit the fodder.

Right, and video is from 2022.
Menwhile in Ukraine, Kiev regime wants to equate convicted criminals in the army with soldiers withougt criminal history.
The goal is apparently to allow criminals to surve in T-Ts-K (mobilization goons)

You're criticizing Ukraine for doing something Russia did years ago?

 

[barbos]

Oh, it's starting. It's just a matter of resources to minimally train and outfit the fodder.

Right, and video is from 2022.
Menwhile in Ukraine, Kiev regime wants to equate convicted criminals in the army with soldiers withougt criminal history.
The goal is apparently to allow criminals to surve in T-Ts-K (mobilization goons)

You're criticizing Ukraine for doing something Russia did years ago?

No, we did not do that. Your reading comprehension is lacking.

 

[barbos]

Meanwhile, Kiev Clown managed to piss off South Korean president so much that he (South Korean President) called him (Elensky) murderer and traitor.

 

[barbos]

CIA director agrees with Russians

 

[ZiprHead]

Meanwhile, Kiev Clown managed to piss off South Korean president so much that he (South Korean President) called him (Elensky) murderer and traitor.

Per Gemini:

The Controversy

• • Public Disclosure: During an address, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy disclosed that Ukraine had transferred two captured North Korean soldiers (who had been fighting alongside Russian forces) to South Korea. [1, 2]
  • Violation of Agreement: South Korean President Lee Jae-myung stated on X (formerly Twitter) that the public announcement breached a confidential non-disclosure agreement between the two nations. [1, 2]
  • The Remarks: President Lee expressed deep regret and criticized leaders who prioritize personal political popularity or short-term gains over national security and diplomacy. He wrote: "A person who, for his own petty gain, harms someone's life, national interests and security is called a murderer or a traitor." [1, 2]
  • Security Concerns: Seoul argued that keeping the transfer quiet was vital to protect national security, diplomatic interests, and the safety of the individuals and their families, noting that public exposure could trigger severe repercussions or endanger lives given the extreme sensitivity surrounding North Korean defectors and prisoners. [1, 2, 3]

 

[aupmanyav]

The problem is the casualties would be horrific for Russia regardless.

There could be casualties for many, not just for Ukraine and Russia. Who knows?

 

[Harry Bosch]

The problem is the casualties would be horrific for Russia regardless.

There could be casualties for many, not just for Ukraine and Russia. Who knows?

Yep. The greatest threat to the world today is Russia. It's not Iran, Houtiland, or even China/Taiwan. It's Russia. Therefore, the entire world should be doing something to encourage Russia to return to negotiation table. Ukraine has stated over and over and over that they are open to cease fire and peace talks. Russia is not.

 

[ZiprHead]

 

[ZiprHead]

 

[barbos]

The problem is the casualties would be horrific for Russia regardless.

There could be casualties for many, not just for Ukraine and Russia. Who knows?

Yep. The greatest threat to the world today is Russia. It's not Iran, Houtiland, or even China/Taiwan. It's Russia. Therefore, the entire world should be doing something to encourage Russia to return to negotiation table. Ukraine has stated over and over and over that they are open to cease fire and peace talks. Russia is not.

Wrong as usual. The greatest threat to the world today is US and Europe.
Your were caught with pants down and are trying to gaslight the world into WW3 in order to distract the world from that fact

 

[ZiprHead]

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