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How should west respond to Russian invasion of Ukraine?

You really are full of shit.
Nope, but you are.
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Kallas can be a deep russian mole. After all, her father (recently deceased) was a high ranking commie/apparatchik in USSR and the cunt herself had no doubt a privileged life as a kid. Unlike peasants son like me in the middle of nowhere.
Really, everyone in Baltic Republics had a privileged life, not just cunts like Kallas.
 
When I was reading on WWII the first tie I read the casualty estimates on the eastern front it was staggering.

Russia vs Germany was a war of attrition. Hitler thought it would be easy. The Germans never developed effective supply chains and transport.


Part of the success of the Russians was aid from Canada and USA over the North Atlantic.
Including trains.

I’d have to fact check, I believe trains were crucial in the relief at Stalingrad.

The Germans had to contend with the Allies in North Africa, Italy, and finally the invasion of Europe. Stalin pushed for an invasion to take pressure off Russia.

There were several factors at play in Russia. Russia developed relatively simple rugged tanks easy to maintain in the field. Germans developed a series of bigger, heavier, and more complicated tanks. Maintenance and manufacturing problems.

Hitler wasted time and many on many development projects that never went anywhere. They never had a mass produced truck like the American two and a half ton truck.

In Europe the ‘Red Ball Express’ running from the beach in France to the front.

Some thought Germany last the war at Dunkirk, even post war German officers. The bulk of the British army escaped. Plus Goering’s failure to break England. One of Hitler’s bluders was switching from attack British aviation and military infrastructure to terror bombing of the Brits.

Hitler invaded Russia with England standing, a great blunder. The Germans were not prepared for long term war in Russia, and not prepared for winter.

Hitler thought he was smarted than the military leaders. Putin and Trump have the same failing.

At the end Germany had no human sorcerers left and no war production. British and American bombing.

So the idea that Russia single handedly defeated Germany is a fantasy. Same fantasy as Trump discrediting the Allies in WWII claiming we did it by ourselves.


Both the Germans and Japanese could not match the prediction capacity of the Americans and Canadians.

WWII success was group team effort.


Australian War Material Production in WWII

Yes — while Australia began WWII relying heavily on imports from the UK and US, it expanded its industrial base during the war and manufactured a wide range of war materials, including weapons, ammunition, ship components, and other supplies.

It was not a Russian war, it was a world war.

And again Stalin had made a non aggression pact with Hitler in exchange for part of Poland. He enabled the start of WII. The Allies warned Stalin Hitlerr was preparing to invade.
 
it's a lot more likely someone calls up one day and says bring the truck, than it's time to shoot the missiles.
A fable comes to mind - the dog and the hare. The hare escapes and the farmer chides the dog for letting it escape. The dog says “I was running for my dinner. The rabbit was running for its life.”
Trucks and nukes are far from equivalent.
 
all the while losing Russia's industrial base.
bullshit too. We are acquiring industrial base at accelerated rate, thanks to sanctions we don't have to worry about cheap competition.
I like this one. Your talents are wasted here. You should be a government economist who explains to Putin how everything gets better if you set it on fire.
It must be interesting to be be perpetually living in 1984. If you don't get the reference, it's even funnier.
 
US cancels G20 ‘family photo’ after Australia, UK and others refuse to appear with Russia.

The traditional “family photo” to open the G20 foreign ministers’ meeting has been abruptly cancelled in the US after a host of nations – including Australia and the UK – refused to appear beside the Russian foreign minister, Sergei Lavrov.

The US secretary of state, Marco Rubio, pulled the plug after several European officials, the UK and Australia made it known they would boycott or walk out of the snapshot that often kicks off such international gatherings...

About one-third of countries at the talks made it known they would not appear beside any Russian representatives...

 
Meanwhile, Kiev residents have electricity for 6 hours a day on average, in some places 1.5 hours.
Problems with water starting too.
Now there's something to be proud of.


You don't read do you? We never tried to actually take Kiev. It was impossible with that amount of force and ukro-successes in "defending" Kiev were greatly exaggerated if not outright manufactured by propaganda.
Well you sure have a funny way of getting rid of your surplus military equipment.
 
all the while losing Russia's industrial base.
bullshit too. We are acquiring industrial base at accelerated rate, thanks to sanctions we don't have to worry about cheap competition.
I like this one. Your talents are wasted here. You should be a government economist who explains to Putin how everything gets better if you set it on fire.
It must be interesting to be be perpetually living in 1984. If you don't get the reference, it's even funnier.
Only complete dumbass-moron and idiots don't know how sanctions actually made more money for Russia.
 
FirePoint announced that it terminated their much vaunted Flamingo cruise missile production.
I wonder why, I wonder why.
Google says you're full of shit.
Their words. Not mine. Even admonished me for reading your posts again.
It went on with something about a statement being taken out of context, that it's actually new variants of the missile that will not be produced.
 
by 2014 army was in a better shape
...and still got to take their teeth home in their hats, when they tried to take kyiv.
You don't read do you? We never tried to actually take Kiev. It was impossible with that amount of force and ukro-successes in "defending" Kiev were greatly exaggerated if not outright manufactured by propaganda.
:LD:
What are you laughing at?
The bolded.

As a matter of fact, it deserves more laughing dogs.

:LD: :LD: :LD:
 
When I was reading on WWII the first tie I read the casualty estimates on the eastern front it was staggering.

Russia vs Germany was a war of attrition. Hitler thought it would be easy. The Germans never developed effective supply chains and transport.


Part of the success of the Russians was aid from Canada and USA over the North Atlantic.
Including trains.

I’d have to fact check, I believe trains were crucial in the relief at Stalingrad.

The Germans had to contend with the Allies in North Africa, Italy, and finally the invasion of Europe. Stalin pushed for an invasion to take pressure off Russia.

There were several factors at play in Russia. Russia developed relatively simple rugged tanks easy to maintain in the field. Germans developed a series of bigger, heavier, and more complicated tanks. Maintenance and manufacturing problems.

Hitler wasted time and many on many development projects that never went anywhere. They never had a mass produced truck like the American two and a half ton truck.

In Europe the ‘Red Ball Express’ running from the beach in France to the front.

Some thought Germany last the war at Dunkirk, even post war German officers. The bulk of the British army escaped. Plus Goering’s failure to break England. One of Hitler’s bluders was switching from attack British aviation and military infrastructure to terror bombing of the Brits.

Hitler invaded Russia with England standing, a great blunder. The Germans were not prepared for long term war in Russia, and not prepared for winter.

Hitler thought he was smarted than the military leaders. Putin and Trump have the same failing.

At the end Germany had no human sorcerers left and no war production. British and American bombing.

So the idea that Russia single handedly defeated Germany is a fantasy. Same fantasy as Trump discrediting the Allies in WWII claiming we did it by ourselves.


Both the Germans and Japanese could not match the prediction capacity of the Americans and Canadians.

WWII success was group team effort.


Australian War Material Production in WWII

Yes — while Australia began WWII relying heavily on imports from the UK and US, it expanded its industrial base during the war and manufactured a wide range of war materials, including weapons, ammunition, ship components, and other supplies.

It was not a Russian war, it was a world war.

And again Stalin had made a non aggression pact with Hitler in exchange for part of Poland. He enabled the start of WII. The Allies warned Stalin Hitlerr was preparing to invade.
So Barbos, tell me how the Russian unstoppable war machine 'won' the war all by itself....
 
by 2014 army was in a better shape
...and still got to take their teeth home in their hats, when they tried to take kyiv.
You don't read do you? We never tried to actually take Kiev. It was impossible with that amount of force and ukro-successes in "defending" Kiev were greatly exaggerated if not outright manufactured by propaganda.
The above is absolutely the dumbest fucking thing that you've said in this thread (and that says a lot!). What are you trying to say? Your storm troopers only meant to go window shopping in Kyiv and simply forgot their corporate cards or something??
 
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