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2026 Mid-Term Elections

High diesel prices are certainly a problem for commercial trucking as well as those who need large pickups for work (construction, landscaping).
But many such trucks have been bought just for daily driving and commuting because buyers think they are cool. I can't pretend that I do not feel a bit of Schadenfreude when I see e.g. F250 pavement princess and think about the driver's next fill-up.
 
Government of the people, by the lawyers, for the lawyers hasn't been so great. We need more engineers, doctors, football coaches and bus drivers in our legislature and executive. Save the lawyering for the judiciary.
You prefer laws penned by the unlettered, in short.
How is wanting more educational and professional diversity in government the same as wanting laws to be "penned by the unlettered"?

Government dominated by lawyers has two problems. One is profession-level self dealing, i.e. passing laws that benefit the lawyerly guild. For example, lawsuits are far more lucrative for lawyers in the US than in most other countries because juries can award arbitrary punitive damages that can be orders of magnitude higher than actual damages. US is also one of the most overlawyered countries in the world.
The other is that low level of educational and professional diversity has the danger of narrow thinking, where problems are seen predominately from one perspective because of the similar background of most lawmakers.
I note that the man you are paraphrasing the political principles of, Abraham Lincoln, was a working lawyer by all accounts, and a damned good one. He himself was paraphrasing another excellent orator, Theodore Parker, who studied law at Harvard before disenrolling in favor of the clergy.
I do not think bilby is saying that we should not have any lawyers in government, just that there should be more people who have studied other things and worked in other professions.

What elected lawmakers are here for is to set the content of the laws that are passed, how money should be allocated etc.
As far as actually writing the text of the law, the elected representatives don't do that themselves anyway, even if they have a law degree. That's what staffs are for.
 
Peltola is pulling ahead in Alaska!!

Not by enough at this point. My math indicates she needs about 52% of the remaining vote to get to the 50% +1 margin for the outright win, or close to that in order to win the instant runoff. This certainly isn't impossible to achieve, but while she was forecasted to win, the Dan Sullivan stuff might have cost her election day votes.
 
Government of the people, by the lawyers, for the lawyers hasn't been so great. We need more engineers, doctors, football coaches and bus drivers in our legislature and executive. Save the lawyering for the judiciary.
You prefer laws penned by the unlettered, in short.
How is wanting more educational and professional diversity in government the same as wanting laws to be "penned by the unlettered"?
Some people: We want more every day citizens to be in Government.

*Ocasio-Cortez wins primary then general election*

Some people: BOO!!!!!
 
I do not think bilby is saying that we should not have any lawyers in government, just that there should be more people who have studied other things and worked in other professions.
That's great and all, but I still am wary of a politician without any relevant specialized knowledge making key decisions about the law, economic policy, foreign policy, and the censorship of knowledge itself. Neither am I saying that all politicians should study law per se. But they should study something, or work a vocation that is somehow proximate to the work of the politician. I realize Bilby lives in a country where "politics" is a much more diaphonous and usually less consequential profession, but much of my nation's current struggles arise from functionally illiterate firebrands letting their morning radio show tell them how they ought to vote on the floor of the House of Representatives. There needs to be a middle ground here, is what I'm saying. I don't mind if someone has worked in another profession, but this outright antipathy toward people who study law as preparation for creating laws is in my view short-sighted and disrespectful of the important work they do both in and out of the governmental system, and it feeds government dysfunction when legislators are unable to communicate or collaborate with one another due to a lack of shared background knowledge. Many have suggested that understanding information is the job of "their staff", but if that's the case, personally I'd rather elect one of them directly, than have their advice filtered through someone who only half understood what their underpaid gay minions were trying to tell them.
 
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On specific topics it helps to have politicians, and advisers, who have expertise on that topic, usually scientists or with a scientific background, to formulate the policy. Then can have legal experts turn that policy into legislation. Those legal experts don't need to be politicians, and it is best that they aren't, but instead are public servants. So the process would be - experts create the policy, lawyers turn that policy into legislation, and then the politicians vote to make that legislation law.
Lawyers don't need to be politicians, and many more experts are needed. Most politicians are simply career politicians who have risen through party ranks, or some celebrity or populist "everyman" recruited to stand as a candidate.
Being a politician should be a profession that has prerequisites like having passed courses in ethics, critical reasoning, mathematics, and yes basic law. Too many of them are simply clowns.
 
Being a politician should be a profession that has prerequisites like having passed courses in ethics, critical reasoning, mathematics, and yes basic law.
Should be. I don’t know who would be arbiter of whether a given candidate’s D minus, in a vaguely related community college course, satisfies a requirement.
Too many of them are simply clowns.
Yup. We shouldn’t have a president who loves the even less educated than he is. We are blessed to have experienced Kakisocracy at its finest, and survived.
 
One problem with having an educational minimum standard for political office (or, indeed, for voting) is that it disenfranchises dumb people, and dumb people tend to get angry and violent when they feel snubbed.

Also, there are a LOT of them.

Another problem, of course, is that it hands power to whomever manages the testing process - it's easy to set a test that eliminates people who hold views that conflict with your own, in the guise of testing general intelligence.

Of course, in my own case, it's clear that holding a view that conflicts with mine is an indicator of low general intelligence. But the difficulty arises when stupid people (eg everyone who isn't me) stupidly think that the same applies to them, and to their views. ;)
 
It is quite possible to not hold an advanced degree or any degree and still be an intelligent, thoughtful, well read and well informed person who can make good decisions for their state or the nation.

It is possible to graduate from medical school and still be a know nothing malevolent dumbass like...Paul Rand.

Law degrees can be helpful with regards to writing actual legislation or understanding far reaching implications and unintended consequences. It certainly should be helpful to have people with medical training making policy decisions and writing legislation as it relates to medical issues. Likewise, people with a background in science, and the environment, and so on. It's possible that people with such background can be idiots (Rand and I'm sure others I'm not thinking of atm).

The idea is that we should have many different perspectives represented amongst our representatives. Unfortunately, people sometimes get too caught up in party loyalty or ideological loyalty rather than what actually will work the best for the most people, and a safety net for those who need it.

Intelligence, curiosity, strong work ethic and no small degree of appreciation for public service and the desire to seek out expert opinions as necessary are of course indispensable although quite a few of our elected officials fall short of some or all of those qualities.
 
Indeed! It is like the Supreme Court. The Justices on that are "fucking smart", including Barrett who is probably the least qualified among them. The trouble isn't the intelligence, it is how they use it to an ends. Interpret Constitutional Law based on a certain number of protocols with foundational bias with how a Justice feels law should be managed... (Jeffersonian v Madisonian) or just rewrite everything as you see fit so America is more like how you want it.
 
What I'm about to post almost deserves its own thread, but it is related to the midterms so I'll add it to this thread.

I found lots of info about how the whiney little conservative Christians are reacting to the midterms. Some of it made me laugh, but it really does show the insanity and stupidity of these conservative Christians who support Trump and his lackeys.

https://www.christianpost.com/news/christian-leaders-react-to-midterm-catastrophe-offer-hope.html

Evangelical voter turnout saw a marked decline this year compared to previous elections, leaving some Christians reeling from the overwhelming victory of the Democratic Party, which some discern has grown overtly hostile to biblical Christianity as it cozies up to far-left socialism, LGBT ideology and Islam.

First of all, wasn't Jesus kind of a socialist? I mean he supported giving up your money to the poor, and the rich guys couldn't get into the good club, loving your enemies and all that jazz. Plus he never said anything against gay folks. In fact, he might have been gay himself as he was always hanging out with a bunch of guys, had a sex worker for a friend, was never married or had kids. That doesn't prove he was gay, but it doesn't make him look straight either, not that there's anything wrong with that. Still, why do these people hate gay folks?

U.S. Ambassador to Israel Mike Huckabee, an ordained Southern Baptist minister and Christian Zionist who recently claimed opponents of the Iran war have been spiritually blinded by Satan, echoed the CUFI Action Fund memo, dismissing Vance's assertion that many GOP voters abandoned the party because of the nature of the U.S.-Israeli alliance.

"I don't agree with that because I don't think that's where voters are," Huckabee said during an interview with Channel 12, an Israeli outlet. "In fact, if you look at the polls, the only group of people in America that really think that that's an important issue are the Democrats on the far left. Only 19% of Republicans even have that same view."

Yeah, that's a good one Mike. I thought there was something about peacemakers being the good guys in the NT. Oh well. There is a lot more in the link if anyone is interested, but I think most of us know that these far right Christians are immoral idiots.
 
First of all, wasn't Jesus kind of a socialist? I mean he supported giving up your money to the poor, and the rich guys couldn't get into the good club, loving your enemies and all that jazz.
Kind of, but only kind of. Jesus (to the extent we can know what the historical Jesus was like) and early Christians were not concerned about government or ordering society at large, which is what socialism is about. They were more like those whacky utopian communities like Fruitlands in the 19th century, and with the added apocalyptic bend of believing that the end is "very fucking nigh".
Plus he never said anything against gay folks.
True. But some Biblical authors like Paul did.
In fact, he might have been gay himself as he was always hanging out with a bunch of guys,
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And back then that was far more common to not interact much with people of the opposite sex you are not related to.
had a sex worker for a friend,
It's a female sex worker. I do not see why that would trigger your gaydar.
was never married or had kids. That doesn't prove he was gay, but it doesn't make him look straight either, not that there's anything wrong with that.
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Still, why do these people hate gay folks?
Latent homosexual (or at least bi) feelings? It is not uncommon for gay-bashing preachers to need a young man to "lift their luggage".
U.S. Ambassador to Israel Mike Huckabee, an ordained Southern Baptist minister and Christian Zionist
Speaking of hatred of Israel on the left, it is Israel where gays are accepted, and places like Iran and Gaza where they have to fear for their very lives.
Yeah, that's a good one Mike. I thought there was something about peacemakers being the good guys in the NT.
Well, obviously, this is not meant to be taken literally. It refers to any manufacturers of dairy products.
Oh well. There is a lot more in the link if anyone is interested, but I think most of us know that these far right Christians are immoral idiots.
They can't hold a candle to Islamism. Truly a speck/beam situation.
 
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