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A modem form of Yellow Journalism. Interesting. I wonder who else does this?
 
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Israeli students to get $2,000 to spread state propaganda on Facebook

The National Union of Israeli Students (NUIS) has become a full-time partner in the Israeli government’s efforts to spread its propaganda online and on college campuses around the world.

NUIS has launched a program to pay Israeli university students $2,000 to spread pro-Israel propaganda online for 5 hours per week from the “comfort of home.”

The union is also partnering with Israel’s Jewish Agency to send Israeli students as missionaries to spread propaganda in other countries, for which they will also receive a stipend.
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Trolling is posting with intent to disrupt, anger or annoy.

What is described in the article isn't trolling; it is astroturfing - posting with the intent to give the impression of popular support for an unpopular position.

Trolling is a form of vandalism; astroturfing is a form of propaganda.
 
Wait, there was a case of german journalist who admitted being paid to put CIA crap as his own.
But german government or media would deny it. Whereas in case of Ukraine their "government" does it openly, I guess you can call it government transparency :)
 
barbos said:
Wait, there was a case of german journalist who admitted being paid to put CIA crap as his own.
But german government or media would deny it. Whereas in case of Ukraine their "government" does it openly, I guess you can call it government transparency :)
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My favourite is when paid "trolls" from the Whitehouse edit Wikipedia articles.
Help from the Hill: Wikipedia-lovers from US House of Reps edited Russia articles
Several Wikipedia entries on Russia were edited by someone using the IP address of the US House of Representatives. Crimea was called “'de jure' part of Ukraine, illegally annexed by Russia” and RT host Abby Martin became “a Russian propagandist.”

The new ‘propagandist changes’ have been recorded by a Twitter bot that watches for anonymous Wikipedia edits from various IP addresses from the US Congress, reported Mashable, a British-American news website, technology and social media blog.

According to this Twitter bot, someone used the IP of the US House of Representatives and re-edited at least 13 articles on Monday July 14.
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But then again I'm a paid Russian troll, which is why I link to the RTNews reporting of this story and not the FOXNews version :)
 
link to inside information on paid russian internet trolls posted. > the two resident pro-russia trolls come out with the usual anti/ukraine/anti west/anti jew tu quoque talking points.

:rolleyes:
 
tupac chopra said:
My favourite is when paid "trolls" from the Whitehouse HoR edit Wikipedia articles.
Help from the Hill: Wikipedia-lovers from US House of Reps edited Russia articles
Several Wikipedia entries on Russia were edited by someone using the IP address of the US House of Representatives. Crimea was called “'de jure' part of Ukraine, illegally annexed by Russia” and RT host Abby Martin became “a Russian propagandist.”

The new ‘propagandist changes’ have been recorded by a Twitter bot that watches for anonymous Wikipedia edits from various IP addresses from the US Congress, reported Mashable, a British-American news website, technology and social media blog.

According to this Twitter bot, someone used the IP of the US House of Representatives and re-edited at least 13 articles on Monday July 14.
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But then again I'm a paid Russian troll, which is why I link to the RTNews reporting of this story and not the FOXNews version :)
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"the Whitehouse" would be referring to the President whereas your article specifies the House of Representatives - a branch of Congress.

Nit done picked
 
dystopian said:
link to inside information on paid russian internet trolls posted. > the two resident pro-russia trolls come out with the usual anti/ukraine/anti west/anti jew tu quoque talking points.

:rolleyes:
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It's not tu quoque, it's a direct refutation Loren's claim that "The only place to get a paid troll job is working for the Russians." He could have said that the Russians pay astroturfers without claiming they're the only ones, then it would be tu quoque. He chose to make a stronger, and false, claim.

I'm not a friend of pro-Russian propaganda, but here you're the one who's denying that which doesn't suit your worldview. tupac chopra's link is actually pretty good. If you don't trust electronic intifada to make the correct translation, you can go to the original document they link and run it through google translate. The result confirms their claim pretty unambiguously.
 
Jokodo said:
dystopian said:
link to inside information on paid russian internet trolls posted. > the two resident pro-russia trolls come out with the usual anti/ukraine/anti west/anti jew tu quoque talking points.

:rolleyes:
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It's not tu quoque, it's a direct refutation Loren's claim that "The only place to get a paid troll job is working for the Russians." He could have said that the Russians pay astroturfers without claiming they're the only ones, then it would be tu quoque. He chose to make a stronger, and false, claim.

I'm not a friend of pro-Russian propaganda, but here you're the one who's denying that which doesn't suit your worldview. tupac chopra's link is actually pretty good. If you don't trust electronic intifada to make the correct translation, you can go to the original document they link and run it through google translate. The result confirms their claim pretty unambiguously.
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Which isn't the point being made. Yes Loren's claim doesn't stand up to even casual scrutiny, but the response was still interesting. In a world where everyone from private firms to governments are trying to get people to support them on-line, the counter-examples given by our Russian cheerleaders were Ukraine, Jews and the White house. And while the first source was good, the Whitehouse one wasn't particularly to the point (Wikipedia isn't really the equivalent of being paid to troll discussion forums), didn't feature the White House, and doesn't feature any evidence of people being paid to push a particular opinion.

Which is exactly why it is a tu quoque. In refuting this (or any other) OP by Loren, all that's necessary is a counter-example. Dragging in things that aren't strictly counter-examples, and don't really address the OP, but do feature your own favourite targets, is exactly the concept described by the tu quoque fallacy.
 
Don't we mean shill, not troll? And wasn't Fox News guilty of paying people to leave comments online at news story sites in order to discredit people criticizing Fox News and the right-wing in general?

Heck with the lack of authentic thoughts on Yahoo, 75% of the comments could be generated by an algorithm.
 
It must suck to be a Putin fanboy or FOX News dittohead or one of the other amateur shills who puts in all the time and effort to spread the mandated propaganda without getting any compensation while there are others making money to do the exact same thing.

The idea of some people being more equal than others isn't all that great when you realize that you're one of the less equal.
 
tupac chopra said:
My favourite is when paid "trolls" from the Whitehouse edit Wikipedia articles.
Help from the Hill: Wikipedia-lovers from US House of Reps edited Russia articles
Several Wikipedia entries on Russia were edited by someone using the IP address of the US House of Representatives. Crimea was called “'de jure' part of Ukraine, illegally annexed by Russia” and RT host Abby Martin became “a Russian propagandist.”

The new ‘propagandist changes’ have been recorded by a Twitter bot that watches for anonymous Wikipedia edits from various IP addresses from the US Congress, reported Mashable, a British-American news website, technology and social media blog.

According to this Twitter bot, someone used the IP of the US House of Representatives and re-edited at least 13 articles on Monday July 14.
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But then again I'm a paid Russian troll, which is why I link to the RTNews reporting of this story and not the FOXNews version :)
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The White House and the House of Representatives are two different buildings.
 
Bronzeage said:
The White House and the House of Representatives are two different buildings.
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But placing the blame on vague "people in the US government" doesn't fit the narrative of blaming Obama in the same way that the blame is being put on Putin. By making the "mistake" of confusing the White House with the House of Representatives, it allows one to put the focus on the leader of the country and show how America is just as bad and therefore Putin is awesome.
 
Tom Sawyer said:
Bronzeage said:
The White House and the House of Representatives are two different buildings.
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But placing the blame on vague "people in the US government" doesn't fit the narrative of blaming Obama in the same way that the blame is being put on Putin. By making the "mistake" of confusing the White House with the House of Representatives, it allows one to put the focus on the leader of the country and show how America is just as bad and therefore Putin is awesome.
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The recent online neocon love of sucking Putin's cock is mystifying. What is not mystifying, is to see how far some people will carry "the enemy of my enemy is my friend," thing.
 
laughing dog said:
Loren Pechtel said:
http://www.rferl.mobi/a/how-to-guide-russian-trolling-trolls/26919999.html

There have been various allegations that various posters are paid trolls for various groups.

Note the answer to the first interview question: The only place to get a paid troll job is working for the Russians.
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No where did I see a credible response to that effect.

Of course, there are plenty of trolls for certain causes that apparently work gratis.
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Sounds like intern work. Or dangle bait for job seekers.
 
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