Terrorists take over federal Building, threaten violence

[Nice Squirrel]

Do you remember the part about BLMers shooting at police officers and sometimes killing them?

In the fourth precinct building?

And "Dinduquada" did you think of that on your own? I'm sure it has nothing to do with race...because well the refuge occupiers are totally supporting an "innocent" candidate...

Actually the ridicule of refuge occupiers has been race-based from the beginning. Why is that acceptable? Just because the targets are white and thus not protected by "political correctness"?

So you agree that "dindu" is a racial slur? Good.

 

[KeepTalking]

Because the first two aren't as clever, whereas "Y'allQaeda" sounds like "Al-Qaeda" and "VanillaISIS" is a reference to rap artist "Vanilla Ice".

So making refrences to speech patterns of some whites and skin tone of whites is now "clever"?
Beside the fact that these people, as idiotic as they are, didn't kill anybody, unlike BLMers.

"Y'all" is not a speech pattern exclusive to whites, it isn't even exclusive to southerners. The term is used by blacks speaking in urban dialects as well. I'm not sure who came up with either of the terms, but I have noticed them being used extensively by whites who are denigrated these "militia" for being the most pathetic group of wannabe terrorists in recent history. So, no, there is little, if any, equivalence between these terms and "dindu".

 

[Derec]

In the fourth precinct building?

What does it matter where BLMers murdered (or tried to murder) police?

So you agree that "dindu" is a racial slur? Good.

No.

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"Y'all" is not a speech pattern exclusive to whites, it isn't even exclusive to southerners.

And vanilla could be a reference to Michael Jackson I guess.

I'm not sure who came up with either of the terms, but I have noticed them being used extensively by whites who are denigrated these "militia" for being the most pathetic group of wannabe terrorists in recent history. So, no, there is little, if any, equivalence between these terms and "dindu".

I doubt these refuge occupiers have terrorism on their mind, which means they are not "wannabe terrorists". And many BLM sympathizers are left-wing whites. That does not surprise me one bit.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Alright progress! So now instead of derailing the thread about BLM, the thread is now concentrating on why the thread derailed about BLM and what is and isn't racist. A couple more shifts and we should be back on topic about a bunch of heavily armed and underprepared militiamen threatening violence in their peaceful protest over the jail sentences being extended to match the minimum sentencing requirements for the crimes they committed.

I would think the whole need or lack of a need for automatic minimum sentencing requirements (what the protest is actually about) would be the subject of discussion here. Not police being shot at or killed by supporters of #BLM. Seriously people, WTF?!

 

[Derec]

Alright progress! So now instead of derailing the thread about BLM, the thread is now concentrating on why the thread derailed about BLM and what is and isn't racist. A couple more shifts and we should be back on topic about a bunch of heavily armed and underprepared militiamen threatening violence in their peaceful protest over the jail sentences being extended to match the minimum sentencing requirements for the crimes they committed.

I would think the whole need or lack of a need for automatic minimum sentencing requirements (what the protest is actually about) would be the subject of discussion here. Not police being shot at or killed by supporters of #BLM. Seriously people, WTF?!

I think comparisons with a similar social movement are very relevant here. They are certainly more fruitful than making fun of the occupiers for not bringing enough snacks and wondering how they will make vodka.
I think your idea is good too, but again, I did not see much of that going on in between snack jokes.

 

[Jayjay]

So making refrences to speech patterns of some whites and skin tone of whites is now "clever"?

That's what your two suggestions were as well. What makes "YallQaeda" and "VanillaISIS" more clever is that they sound more similar, therefore they are objectively better puns.

 

[Derec]

So making refrences to speech patterns of some whites and skin tone of whites is now "clever"?

That's what your two suggestions were as well.

No shit Sherlock. They were explicit references to these other slurs. My question was, what makes these acceptable when directed against whites, but unacceptable when used against blacks, other than racist political correctness.

 

[laughing dog]

Alright progress! So now instead of derailing the thread about BLM, the thread is now concentrating on why the thread derailed about BLM and what is and isn't racist. A couple more shifts and we should be back on topic about a bunch of heavily armed and underprepared militiamen threatening violence in their peaceful protest over the jail sentences being extended to match the minimum sentencing requirements for the crimes they committed.

I would think the whole need or lack of a need for automatic minimum sentencing requirements (what the protest is actually about) would be the subject of discussion here. Not police being shot at or killed by supporters of #BLM. Seriously people, WTF?!

Lighten up. Obviously for some posters, the most critical issue of today in the USA is that white people are under attack for anything they do (or don't do) while black people are getting away with everything. So, we must shift our focus away from white people because black people are scarier and worse.


If these people wish to sit out in a wilderness refuge to protest the sentences of confessed arsonists, then good luck to them. Obviously they feel very strongly about this. I don't think they will accomplish much and they certainly don't seem to raising any awareness to their alleged plight.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Alright progress! So now instead of derailing the thread about BLM, the thread is now concentrating on why the thread derailed about BLM and what is and isn't racist. A couple more shifts and we should be back on topic about a bunch of heavily armed and underprepared militiamen threatening violence in their peaceful protest over the jail sentences being extended to match the minimum sentencing requirements for the crimes they committed.

I would think the whole need or lack of a need for automatic minimum sentencing requirements (what the protest is actually about) would be the subject of discussion here. Not police being shot at or killed by supporters of #BLM. Seriously people, WTF?!

I think comparisons with a similar social movement are very relevant here.

Seeing they are hardly similar, they are not relevant. This occupation is via a heavily armed group of people that have threatened violence if approached by Police. It isn't a sit-in.

They are certainly more fruitful than making fun of the occupiers for not bringing enough snacks and wondering how they will make vodka.

As a note, the occupiers indicated that they were willing to stay months, even years. To start asking for food after a couple of days looks a bit silly.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

That's what your two suggestions were as well.

No shit Sherlock. They were explicit references to these other slurs. My question was, what makes these acceptable when directed against whites, but unacceptable when used against blacks, other than racist political correctness.

The source of this confusion is the innate inability for conservatives to understand functions of comedy.

 

[Keith&Co.]

The source of this confusion is the innate inability for conservatives to understand functions of comedy.

Probably due to so many years of saying things they believe, then defending their statement from criticism as 'I was just joking.' I suspect it makes them see other people's jokes as being indicative of firmly held beliefs rather than just opportunistic comparison making.

 

[KeepTalking]

"Y'all" is not a speech pattern exclusive to whites, it isn't even exclusive to southerners.

And vanilla could be a reference to Michael Jackson I guess.

This was explained in the post to which you replied, which I was quoting. It is in reference to Vanilla Ice.

I'm not sure who came up with either of the terms, but I have noticed them being used extensively by whites who are denigrated these "militia" for being the most pathetic group of wannabe terrorists in recent history. So, no, there is little, if any, equivalence between these terms and "dindu".

I doubt these refuge occupiers have terrorism on their mind, which means they are not "wannabe terrorists". And many BLM sympathizers are left-wing whites. That does not surprise me one bit.

They have announced their intention to kill law enforcement officers as a part of their protest. This makes them terrorists.

Now, in order to head off your upcoming post that seeks to make a false equivalence with BLM protesters, and will refer to them as terrorists as well. There are BLM supporters who have killed police officers, but killing police is not what BLM is about. It is about recognizing that black lives matter just as much as white lives (or any lives). Many (possibly all) of these idiots in Oregon are Tea Party members, but no one is calling Tea Party supporters, in general, terrorists. We are referring to these specific individuals, who are engaging in terrorist tactics, as terrorists.

 

[Rhea]

What does it matter where BLMers murdered (or tried to murder) police?

Absolutely. It gets to the heart of the attempt to take the worst behavior of dozens of different events, mash them all together and pretend it's just as bad as one event that has all of those bad behaviors.

THis event is about more than a dozen heavily armed people breaking into a government building and explicitly stating that they will ALL respond with heavily armed violence if anyone tries to remove them.

You're trying to compare that to dozens of events where people were NOT armed, except a few who are not even shown to be part of the event, about one of those events, but none of the rest occupying a street outside of a public building rather than taking one over, where at one event someone not shown to be part of the event fired shots and at a different event someone on the internet said something threatening about vague groups of people.

And again that's compared to one single event that has ALL OF:

1. heavily armed, all of them.
2. Threatened the particular police around them with armed response if they try to arrest
3. Are inside and occupying the federal building.
4. Are claiming that they plan to stay inside this building for years.
5. and not only that, but are the SAME INDIVIDUALS who have done this before

Yeah, so it matters where.

I doubt these refuge occupiers have terrorism on their mind, which means they are not "wannabe terrorists". And many BLM sympathizers are left-wing whites. That does not surprise me one bit.

They have EXPLICITLY SAID that they have terrorism on their minds. They said they will use their weapons on anyone who tries to stop them.


(For clarity, you could use #BLM for black lives matter and BLM for bureau of land management. The terrorists hate both of them, so they won't care)

 

[ZiprHead]

So why isn't there a similar ridicule directed toward BLM occupations? Why are they not called "DinduQueda" or "ChocolateISIS" when these clowns are called "Y'allQueda" and "VanillaISIS"?

Because the first two aren't as clever, whereas "Y'allQaeda" sounds like "Al-Qaeda" and "VanillaISIS" is a reference to rap artist "Vanilla Ice".

"Artist"

 

[Derec]

Because the first two aren't as clever, whereas "Y'allQaeda" sounds like "Al-Qaeda" and "VanillaISIS" is a reference to rap artist "Vanilla Ice".

"Artist"

Well in general 'rap artist' is a pretty oxymoronic phrase.

 

[Toni]

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Obviously the easiest way is to shut off all the utilities, establish a perimeter and just wait it out. How much food and water could they have stockpiled in there anyway?

I can see how that would play out:

1. These 'militiamen' (pfft) will get hungry and will want to leave.
2. Their wives and mommas will show up behind the FBI perimeter with potato bake in hand and crying children in tow, begging for daddy.
3. These 'militiamen' (who are they kidding) will come marching out, guns slung or in-hand but with their children walking alongside them or directly behind them.
4. The FBI, not wanting to risk a firefight with children in the line of fire, will yield and these cunts will walk out.
5. The FBI will later arrest a few ringleaders, but most will get off scot-free.
6. The entire country will apply palm to face.

But more likely, no perimeter will ever be set up, and these rednecks will stay for as long as they please. They may even do a rotating roster, where each wingnut goes only stays a few weeks at a time, like some sort of wacky holiday ranch.

Please. Their women folk and children, should any exist, are likely quite glad of the repreive of the presence of these nut bags. Oh, I am sure they are supporting the cause just as they support long hunting and fishing trips.

 

[Nice Squirrel]

What does it matter where BLMers murdered (or tried to murder) police?

Because is was responding to your bringing up a specific event: an occupation of a public building. I'm pretty sure that members of militia groups have tried and seceded in killing police officers, but am also smart enough to know that these are not the people occupying the refuge. One of the main differences of the group is that the Minneapolis Black Lives Matter did not threaten to kill anybody if they were removed by the authorities. The refuge occupiers have threatened to use lethal force. This is a big distinction and one you are apparently not acknowledging.

So you agree that "dindu" is a racial slur? Good.

No.

Then why did you apply it to Black Lives Matter and not the refuge occupiers? They are precisely fitting the criteria as they are protesting and supporting two individuals who are clearly guilty.

 

[Nice Squirrel]

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[prideandfall]

one of these days the politics subforum here will stop feeding the D, d, & LP troll bait brigade and threads will be remotely constructive.

what exactly is it about the strata of white people that tend to be affluent and in a higher social/economic position that makes them think they're persecuted and oppressed rebels?
between these yahoos and the christian pearl-clutchers it's getting to the point where there's a bit of a trend in the behaviors of paranoid rural white people.

 

[Rhea]

Because is was responding to your bringing up a specific event: an occupation of a public building. I'm pretty sure that members of militia groups have tried and seceded in killing police officers, but am also smart enough to know that these are not the people occupying the refuge.

Indeed, let's not forget about Eric Frein.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/eric-frein-pennsylvania-trooper-ambush-suspect-ordered-to-stand-trial/

Authorities say Frein confessed to what he described as an assassination [of State Troop Dickson] designed to "wake people up." They say he also wrote a letter to his parents - the text of which was read in court Monday - calling for revolution to "get us back the liberties we once had." "I do not have a death wish but I know the odds.

So we get to use Frein's crime against these Refuge guys now?