Why is God at war with it's creation?

[Syed]

You miss the point.

1-There are rich people who do evil.
2- There are rich people who avoid doing evil, who are basically decent.
3-There are poor people who do evil.
4-There are poor people who avoid doing evil, do not steal and are basically decent.

5- You said that people have 'free will' and that not having their needs provided for causes people to do evil.

6 - Your claim is false for reasons 1 - 4 .

''human will have free will in heaven but we wont have reasons to do evil, god will provide all our NEEDS which cause us to do evil'' - Syed.

if there is a problem god will take care of it

What sort of problem? For reasons 1-4, it is not necessarily the external conditions that makes a person 'good' or 'evil' but a combination of genes and environment.

like i said before '' if there is a problem god will take care of it ''

in heaven god will provide every thing human's NEEDS so there no reasons to kill, lie, steal, etc

in heaven there is NO DEATH so you cant kill

if somebody did crime of passion they will be punish and release

in heaven you cant get away from crime

Everyone has a different idea of bliss, and supposing "there is NO DEATH so you cant kill"... that would make some people frustrated in Heaven. What if a man who loves stabbing people accepts God and ends up in Heaven on the same day you do? Would you stand there and feel no pain while he chipped at your shoulder blade with a little lock blade? Over and over, just to hear the sound. I mean... you're both saved and in Heaven - and you CAN'T DIE.

if you killed innocent person you straight go to hell

if you want to go to heaven?

you MUST believe in GOD and you MUST be GOOD person

 

[C_Mucius_Scaevola]

Ape most certainly do know his own existence.

The "Great Apes" - humans - are all self-aware, as are dolphins, elephants and magpies, as shown by the "mirror test". Other animals may well be too; tests on non-visual stimuli show individuation and a degree of self-awareness in, for example, dogs.

do you think great apes, gorillas, chimpanzees, orangutans, bonobos knows that human are prime mates ? and their home on planet earth?

The "Great Apes" (humans, gorillas, chimpanzees, orangutans, bonobos) appear to prefer to mate each with their own species, so a "prime mate" for a gorilla would be a gorilla, a "prime mate" for a bonobo would be a bonobo ... etc. Whether they would know humans are "primates" is another question. They probably wouldn't know that, as they don't usually understand human languages and "primate" is merely a word in a human language representing a group of related species. Whether they would recognise in some way that they have a kind of kinship with humans? Of that I have no doubt.

BTW, you placed the bolding tags wrongly. The first tag should have been to the left of "humans" as we are included in the "Great Apes". The way you placed them to exclude "humans", one would almost think you were trying to make it look like I was saying we were something other than a member of the "Great Apes" group. :laughing-smiley-014

 

[Syed]

do you think great apes, gorillas, chimpanzees, orangutans, bonobos knows that human are prime mates ? and their home on planet earth?

The "Great Apes" (humans, gorillas, chimpanzees, orangutans, bonobos) appear to prefer to mate each with their own species, so a "prime mate" for a gorilla would be a gorilla, a "prime mate" for a bonobo would be a bonobo ... etc. Whether they would know humans are "primates" is another question. They probably wouldn't know that, as they don't usually understand human languages and "primate" is merely a word in a human language representing a group of related species. Whether they would recognise in some way that they have a kind of kinship with humans? Of that I have no doubt.

BTW, you placed the bolding tags wrongly. The first tag should have been to the left of "humans" as we are included in the "Great Apes". The way you placed them to exclude "humans", one would almost think you were trying to make it look like I was saying we were something other than a member of the "Great Apes" group. :laughing-smiley-014

you can say human gorillas, human chimpanzees, human orangutans, human bonobos but they wont able to talk in next trillions

god made human to talk, write, read, think, invent, cure, built school, university, hospital

if you atheist believe you are apes i have no problem with that

 

[bilby]

You miss the point.

1-There are rich people who do evil.
2- There are rich people who avoid doing evil, who are basically decent.
3-There are poor people who do evil.
4-There are poor people who avoid doing evil, do not steal and are basically decent.

5- You said that people have 'free will' and that not having their needs provided for causes people to do evil.

6 - Your claim is false for reasons 1 - 4 .

''human will have free will in heaven but we wont have reasons to do evil, god will provide all our NEEDS which cause us to do evil'' - Syed.

if there is a problem god will take care of it

What sort of problem? For reasons 1-4, it is not necessarily the external conditions that makes a person 'good' or 'evil' but a combination of genes and environment.

like i said before '' if there is a problem god will take care of it ''

in heaven god will provide every thing human's NEEDS so there no reasons to kill, lie, steal, etc

in heaven there is NO DEATH so you cant kill

if somebody did crime of passion they will be punish and release

in heaven you cant get away from crime

Everyone has a different idea of bliss, and supposing "there is NO DEATH so you cant kill"... that would make some people frustrated in Heaven. What if a man who loves stabbing people accepts God and ends up in Heaven on the same day you do? Would you stand there and feel no pain while he chipped at your shoulder blade with a little lock blade? Over and over, just to hear the sound. I mean... you're both saved and in Heaven - and you CAN'T DIE.

if you killed innocent person you straight go to hell

if you want to go to heaven?

you MUST believe in GOD and you MUST be GOOD person

Believing in gods is incompatible with being a good person; gullibility is bad.

Fortunately, heaven is fictional, so nobody goes there under any circumstances.

When you die, you go to a cemetery or crematorium.

 

[C_Mucius_Scaevola]

you can say human gorillas, human chimpanzees, human orangutans, human bonobos but they wont able to talk in next trillions

I don't say humans are gorillas, chimpanzees, bonobos, whatever ... I say that humans, by every measure or definition we have for apes, are apes.

god made human to talk, write, read, think, invent, cure, built school, university, hospital

Humans were around for many millennia before we taught ourselves to write and read, in that order. And yes, that's right: taught ourselves. There's no evidence of any "gods" being involved in the process. Written language has evolved from simple tallies, through pictograms, to syllabics and finally (so far) to the alphabetic systems we now use (YMMV in, for example, East Asia). All traceable through the historic record, and all free of the influence of "gods".

if you atheist believe you are apes i have no problem with that

It's not a question of believing. What is an ape is defined by human science and linguistics, and by all definitions, we are apes. Tough shit if you don't like it, ape.

 

[Syed]

You miss the point.

1-There are rich people who do evil.
2- There are rich people who avoid doing evil, who are basically decent.
3-There are poor people who do evil.
4-There are poor people who avoid doing evil, do not steal and are basically decent.

5- You said that people have 'free will' and that not having their needs provided for causes people to do evil.

6 - Your claim is false for reasons 1 - 4 .

''human will have free will in heaven but we wont have reasons to do evil, god will provide all our NEEDS which cause us to do evil'' - Syed.

if there is a problem god will take care of it

What sort of problem? For reasons 1-4, it is not necessarily the external conditions that makes a person 'good' or 'evil' but a combination of genes and environment.

like i said before '' if there is a problem god will take care of it ''

in heaven god will provide every thing human's NEEDS so there no reasons to kill, lie, steal, etc

in heaven there is NO DEATH so you cant kill

if somebody did crime of passion they will be punish and release

in heaven you cant get away from crime

Everyone has a different idea of bliss, and supposing "there is NO DEATH so you cant kill"... that would make some people frustrated in Heaven. What if a man who loves stabbing people accepts God and ends up in Heaven on the same day you do? Would you stand there and feel no pain while he chipped at your shoulder blade with a little lock blade? Over and over, just to hear the sound. I mean... you're both saved and in Heaven - and you CAN'T DIE.

if you killed innocent person you straight go to hell

if you want to go to heaven?

you MUST believe in GOD and you MUST be GOOD person

Believing in gods is incompatible with being a good person; gullibility is bad.
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why please explain

 

[Syed]

god made human to talk, write, read, think, invent, cure, built school, university, hospital

Humans were around for many millennia before we taught ourselves to write and read, in that order. And yes, that's right: taught ourselves. There's no evidence of any "gods" being involved in the process. Written language has evolved from simple tallies, through pictograms, to syllabics and finally (so far) to the alphabetic systems we now use (YMMV in, for example, East Asia). All traceable through the historic record, and all free of the influence of "gods".

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what the reason gorillas, chimpanzees, orangutans, bonobos unable to read, write, speak?

 

[sdelsolray]

what the reason gorillas, chimpanzees, orangutans, bonobos unable to read, write, speak?

what the reason Syed unable to read, write or speak beyond 5th grade level after 70 years?

 

[Syed]

what the reason gorillas, chimpanzees, orangutans, bonobos unable to read, write, speak?

what the reason Syed unable to read, write or speak beyond 5th grade level after 70 years?

aah no answer

evolution is failed theory cant explain why other species behind human in intelligence

 

[Ford]

evolution is failed theory cant explain why other species behind human in intelligence

Evolution explains it quite thoroughly.

Unfortunately individual humans such as yourself are not bright enough to grasp this simple fact.

 

[Keith&Co.]

evolution is failed theory cant explain why other species behind human in intelligence

Once more, you don't show enough understanding of what evolution says to judge whether or not the theory has failed.

And second, what makes you say they're 'behind' us in intelligence? Other species can survive in conditions where humans collapse and die. Maybe they just have a different sort of intelligence. It's no big surprise a human like you brags about human intelligence, it makes you feel special. And humans desperately need to feel special.

 

[Syed]

evolution is failed theory cant explain why other species behind human in intelligence

Evolution explains it quite thoroughly.

not enough

 

[Ford]

Evolution explains it quite thoroughly.

not enough

What parts are lacking, oh grammatically challenged one?

 

[Syed]

evolution is failed theory cant explain why other species behind human in intelligence

Once more, you don't show enough understanding of what evolution says to judge whether or not the theory has failed.

And second, what makes you say they're 'behind' us in intelligence? Other species can survive in conditions where humans collapse and die. Maybe they just have a different sort of intelligence. It's no big surprise a human like you brags about human intelligence, it makes you feel special. And humans desperately need to feel special.

other species not deigned to be intelligent like human but good enough to survived

 

[Syed]

not enough

What parts are lacking, oh grammatically challenged one?

my grammar is bad and your honesty is bad

 

[Ford]

What parts are lacking, oh grammatically challenged one?

my grammar is bad and your honesty is bad

At least I can form complete sentences.

 

[Syed]

my grammar is bad and your honesty is bad

At least I can form complete sentences.

that proof you can write and you are not like other specie, a special god creation

 

[Keith&Co.]

Once more, you don't show enough understanding of what evolution says to judge whether or not the theory has failed.

And second, what makes you say they're 'behind' us in intelligence? Other species can survive in conditions where humans collapse and die. Maybe they just have a different sort of intelligence. It's no big surprise a human like you brags about human intelligence, it makes you feel special. And humans desperately need to feel special.

other species not deigned to be intelligent like human but good enough to survived

that's pretty much exactly right.
So, what's the problem?

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What parts are lacking, oh grammatically challenged one?

my grammar is bad and your honesty is bad

Your grammar is variable, which makes me suspect your honesty is worse. But still, what is the problem with the evolutionary theory with respect to intelligences among other animals?
Do you have an answer, or must more derailing?

 

[Syed]

other species not deigned to be intelligent like human but good enough to survived

that's pretty much exactly right.
So, what's the problem?

so you dont have problem that human deigned to be intelligent ?

 

[Keith&Co.]

that's pretty much exactly right.
So, what's the problem?

so you dont have problem that human deigned to be intelligent ?

I probably shouldn't deign to answer that...

Syed, I'm agreeing with your statement that other species are not designed... Doesn't mean that i think humans ARE designed.