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RussiaGate

bilby said:
Jimmy Higgins said:
FYI, Nixon fired Attorney Generals, or at least they resigned when asked to do something that'd obstruct justice.
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The plural of 'Attorney General' is 'Attorneys General'.
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Yeah, well, it's also supposed to be times out when referring to the plural of "time out" in a sports. But ain't no one got time for that shit. Thus, time outs and attorney generals.
 
barbos said:

Her russian is surprisingly good, almost no accent.
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She was born in Russia. Speaking Russian and a good education doesn't make her less of a buffoon by way of her fact lacking presentation.

So what if Russian photographers took photos in the White house. A lot of cameramen and women have been there over the years.

Maybe I'm wrong but it seems this whole affair arises out of Hilary using a private server for government emails and then blamed the Russians and are still grasping for straws.
 
Don2 (Don1 Revised) said:
Jimmy Higgins said:
Let's just leave it there.
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Russians have been trying to interfere in our elections and we've tried to interfere in theirs since the 1950s. That was after Hillary was born, right? I knew she had something to do with it...
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It's no secret that both sides have spied and tried to hack each other. It's not clear how Russia could have swayed voters on this issue and one who is investigating can say.
 
whichphilosophy said:
Don2 (Don1 Revised) said:
Russians have been trying to interfere in our elections and we've tried to interfere in theirs since the 1950s. That was after Hillary was born, right? I knew she had something to do with it...
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It's no secret that both sides have spied and tried to hack each other. It's not clear how Russia could have swayed voters on this issue and one who is investigating can say.
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Agreed. Not clear at all. Then you agree: independent investigator?
 
Harry_Bosch said:
whichphilosophy said:
It's no secret that both sides have spied and tried to hack each other. It's not clear how Russia could have swayed voters on this issue and one who is investigating can say.
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Agreed. Not clear at all. Then you agree: independent investigator?
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Hard to see how they're going to avoid an IP at this point. Especially if Trump keeps throwing gas on the fire.

It's possible that Trump himself was not involved in any collusion, but saw with HRC just how damaging investigations can be. But he's behaving like someone with something to hide.
 
Whichphilosophy: "It's no secret that both sides have spied and tried to hack each other."

So then it didn't start with Hillary's emails.

Whichphilosophy: "It's not clear how Russia could have swayed voters on this issue and one who is investigating can say."

Propaganda.
 
Horatio Parker said:
Harry_Bosch said:
Agreed. Not clear at all. Then you agree: independent investigator?
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Hard to see how they're going to avoid an IP at this point. Especially if Trump keeps throwing gas on the fire.

It's possible that Trump himself was not involved in any collusion, but saw with HRC just how damaging investigations can be. But he's behaving like someone with something to hide.
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Once Manafort was involved, Trump turned on Russia big league.
 
barbos said:
whichphilosophy said:
She was born in Russia.
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That explains her having almost no accent.
Speaking Russian and a good education doesn't make her less of a buffoon by way of her fact lacking presentation.
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I did not say she was not a stupid buffoon.
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She came across as one; claiming her knowledge of Russian as a magical remedy to understanding this issue makes her one. There is an old saying, "Educated Fools exceed all fools."
 
Don2 (Don1 Revised) said:
Whichphilosophy: "It's no secret that both sides have spied and tried to hack each other."

So then it didn't start with Hillary's emails.

Whichphilosophy: "It's not clear how Russia could have swayed voters on this issue and one who is investigating can say."

Propaganda.
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Apart from some theories, no one has come close to showing a direct link with Putin and/or Russian government agencies and the Clinton emails.
Even harder, how this would have changed US opinion

Assage still maintains
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/04/politics/assange-wikileaks-hannity-intv/


WikiLeaks' Assange: Russia didn't give us emails[/B]

There is the theory that this was from Russian organisations fronted by the government, but nothing presented.

The perceived damage appears to be originated from Hilary herself but how many people actually read the Wikileaks and changed their opinion.
Are these different to the rules of using what Trump said against him. The latter was clearly more intense as in pussycat hats.
 
whichphilosophy said:
Don2 (Don1 Revised) said:
Whichphilosophy: "It's no secret that both sides have spied and tried to hack each other."

So then it didn't start with Hillary's emails.

Whichphilosophy: "It's not clear how Russia could have swayed voters on this issue and one who is investigating can say."

Propaganda.
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Apart from some theories, no one has come close to showing a direct link with Putin and/or Russian government agencies and the Clinton emails.
Even harder, how this would have changed US opinion

Assage still maintains
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/04/politics/assange-wikileaks-hannity-intv/


WikiLeaks' Assange: Russia didn't give us emails[/B]

There is the theory that this was from Russian organisations fronted by the government, but nothing presented.

The perceived damage appears to be originated from Hilary herself but how many people actually read the Wikileaks and changed their opinion.
Are these different to the rules of using what Trump said against him. The latter was clearly more intense as in pussycat hats.
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Buddy! You don't honestly believe that Trump fired Comey because Comey was a big meanie to HRC? Please tell me that you're not that naïve!
 
Wait, Assange said Russia didn't give them the stolen emails? I would have thought Russian Intelligence would have sent it to Assange directly with a transmittal letter on their letterhead.


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