How do we support the students?

[Angry Floof]

What are the ways we can support the student protesters?

(If you don't support them, this thread isn't for you. Just scroll on by.)

 

[gmbteach]

What are the ways we can support the student protesters?

(If you don't support them, this thread isn't for you. Just scroll on by.)

Hmmmm. I don’t know what I can do from here.

 

[untermensche]

Are we more interested in helping a small group of people or helping their cause?

 

[Arctish]

Are we more interested in helping a small group of people or helping their cause?

I want to encourage them to stay engaged in the political process and be wary of hacks, propagandists, and lying liars who lie.

We're passing the torch to the next generation. They have to decide for themselves where they want to go with it.

 

[ruby sparks]

I'm guessing that support could be expressed in a number of the 'usual' ways these days. 'Liking' or following Social Media pages, commenting supportively, responding to any polls or petitions, etc. In addition, I guess one could write to one's local political representatives, attend any local rallies etc.

 

[Cheerful Charlie]

Register to vote, and then vote. Dragoon your friends into voting. Get young people to vote. The younger cohorts have the distressing habit of not showing up at the voting booth. While the old farts who are riled up by listening to Lush Rimjob, and Mark Leslime and Sean Insanity on Faux radio do show up in large numbers to vote for idiots.

 

[Vork]

What are the ways we can support the student protesters?

(If you don't support them, this thread isn't for you. Just scroll on by.)

If you mean young students, then I don't think they should really be getting involved in political activism on either side of the debate. Firstly there is a risk they will be used by adults, and secondly, they haven't really had enough time to form their own views on issues yet.

I don't even think free speech rights should apply at a younger age. E.g. a child shouldn't have a right to advocate for bestiality legalization and hand out pamphlets to everyone. Just as, you shouldn't be approaching young students with that kind of material.

Point being, they aren't really ready for political activism. If you consider that "off topic" in your thread, well sorry, but as I say, I don't think it's a good idea.

 

[Harry Bosch]

Register to vote, and then vote. Dragoon your friends into voting. Get young people to vote. The younger cohorts have the distressing habit of not showing up at the voting booth. While the old farts who are riled up by listening to Lush Rimjob, and Mark Leslime and Sean Insanity on Faux radio do show up in large numbers to vote for idiots.

Totally agree. No one will pay attention to younger people until they start voting and using their power.

 

[Angry Floof]

What are the ways we can support the student protesters?

(If you don't support them, this thread isn't for you. Just scroll on by.)

If you mean young students, then I don't think they should really be getting involved in political activism on either side of the debate. Firstly there is a risk they will be used by adults, and secondly, they haven't really had enough time to form their own views on issues yet.

I don't even think free speech rights should apply at a younger age. E.g. a child shouldn't have a right to advocate for bestiality legalization and hand out pamphlets to everyone. Just as, you shouldn't be approaching young students with that kind of material.

Point being, they aren't really ready for political activism. If you consider that "off topic" in your thread, well sorry, but as I say, I don't think it's a good idea.

I don't even know where to begin with all this. Maybe you should get out more or something. The students do know what they're doing. They do have their own minds and voices. The do have the right to speak and they are doing so. They are leading here and they deserve support. People may become legally adults at age 18 or whatever, but they are already human beings, intelligent human beings with minds and passions of their own.

And yes, get out of the thread if you don't support them. This isn't a debate thread.

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Register to vote, and then vote. Dragoon your friends into voting. Get young people to vote. The younger cohorts have the distressing habit of not showing up at the voting booth. While the old farts who are riled up by listening to Lush Rimjob, and Mark Leslime and Sean Insanity on Faux radio do show up in large numbers to vote for idiots.

Totally agree. No one will pay attention to younger people until they start voting and using their power.

Actually, everyone is paying attention to them. Quite a lot of attention.

 

[ruby sparks]

Register to vote, and then vote. Dragoon your friends into voting. Get young people to vote. The younger cohorts have the distressing habit of not showing up at the voting booth.

Well said.

 

[ruby sparks]

Six students, and one of their teachers, discuss the Florida tragedy

https://www.channel4.com/news/florida-guns-debate-part-1

UK Channel 4 News.

Incredibly articulate young people.

 

[Angry Floof]

Florida shooting survivor tells NRA supporters trying to discredit witnesses: 'We will outlive you'

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

You aren't supporting the shooting victims, you are telling disinterested teens around you to register and start giving a fuck about Government because Trump is a sign that not enough people are giving enough fucks to save our Government from devolving into authoritarian "free market" garbage.

What are the ways we can support the student protesters?

(If you don't support them, this thread isn't for you. Just scroll on by.)

If you mean young students, then I don't think they should really be getting involved in political activism on either side of the debate. Firstly there is a risk they will be used by adults, and secondly, they haven't really had enough time to form their own views on issues yet.

I don't even think free speech rights should apply at a younger age. E.g. a child shouldn't have a right to advocate for bestiality legalization and hand out pamphlets to everyone. Just as, you shouldn't be approaching young students with that kind of material.

Odd, an 18 year old gets shot at in another country, the right-wing will cum in their pants while voting for them to serve in office. A bunch of 17 year olds get shot at in their school, and we are told that these kids are not mature and should be ignored.

 

[southernhybrid]

What are the ways we can support the student protesters?

(If you don't support them, this thread isn't for you. Just scroll on by.)

If you mean young students, then I don't think they should really be getting involved in political activism on either side of the debate. Firstly there is a risk they will be used by adults, and secondly, they haven't really had enough time to form their own views on issues yet.

I don't even think free speech rights should apply at a younger age. E.g. a child shouldn't have a right to advocate for bestiality legalization and hand out pamphlets to everyone. Just as, you shouldn't be approaching young students with that kind of material.

Point being, they aren't really ready for political activism. If you consider that "off topic" in your thread, well sorry, but as I say, I don't think it's a good idea.

I beg your pardon but when I was finishing high school way back in 1967, I became a bit of a political activist. I marched in anti war rallies in my city and by the time I was 18, I marched on my college campus to protest some things. My political views have changed very little over the years, although my body isn't as perky or capable of doing what I could then, other than voting and encouraging young people to do the same. If you are a 15 year old, who follows what's going on in the country and cares about the future, you are old enough to get involved with political activism. I know many adults who don't have the maturity and will to do what these young people are trying to do. I don't like it when I'm stereotyped because of my age and I don't like it when teenagers are stereotyped as being too young or immature to get involved. We should be praising and supporting these kids, not discouraging them. They are the future, so why shouldn't they be the leaders of a new movement that has impacted them to such a horrific degree? We "kids" were activists during the Viet Nam War, because we were also the people most affected by it. 58000 of my peers died in that war, so of course we wanted to be involved. It's the youth that start movements.
And, btw, kids in their late teens are not easily manipulated by adults. Trump has manipulated a lot of people that are well into adulthood, so I don't see that your argument is at all convincing.

 

[Angry Floof]

You aren't supporting the shooting victims, you are telling disinterested teens around you to register and start giving a fuck about Government because Trump is a sign that not enough people are giving enough fucks to save our Government from devolving into authoritarian "free market" garbage.

Who is this in response to? I'm talking about supporting activist students and student protests. Honor the victims, support the survivors' voices and their efforts to make change.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

You aren't supporting the shooting victims, you are telling disinterested teens around you to register and start giving a fuck about Government because Trump is a sign that not enough people are giving enough fucks to save our Government from devolving into authoritarian "free market" garbage.

Who is this in response to? I'm talking about supporting activist students and student protests. Honor the victims, support the survivors' voices and their efforts to make change.

Probably came out wrong. I meant more that we aren't looking to directly support the teens directly affected by the latest shootings, but to indirectly support them by trying to wake up indifferent teens and those in their 20s. The three biggest things in an election are turnout, turnout, and turnout.

 

[coloradoatheist]

There are a couple of options too. Someone needs to create an organization or if there is promote it more that is in opposition to the NRA. And second, a political party like the tea party needs to be started to promote gun control.

 

[Angry Floof]

You aren't supporting the shooting victims, you are telling disinterested teens around you to register and start giving a fuck about Government because Trump is a sign that not enough people are giving enough fucks to save our Government from devolving into authoritarian "free market" garbage.

Who is this in response to? I'm talking about supporting activist students and student protests. Honor the victims, support the survivors' voices and their efforts to make change.

Probably came out wrong. I meant more that we aren't looking to directly support the teens directly affected by the latest shootings, but to indirectly support them by trying to wake up indifferent teens and those in their 20s. The three biggest things in an election are turnout, turnout, and turnout.

Gotcha. Yes, agreed.

I think Obama's message that he's proud of them and that "we've got your back" ('we' meaning our generation) was pretty powerful.

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There are a couple of options too. Someone needs to create an organization or if there is promote it more that is in opposition to the NRA. And second, a political party like the tea party needs to be started to promote gun control.

The Party of Reason and Progress (PORP) is already kind of serving that role, too.

 

[Angry Floof]

What are the ways we can support the student protesters?

(If you don't support them, this thread isn't for you. Just scroll on by.)

If you mean young students, then I don't think they should really be getting involved in political activism on either side of the debate. Firstly there is a risk they will be used by adults, and secondly, they haven't really had enough time to form their own views on issues yet.

I don't even think free speech rights should apply at a younger age. E.g. a child shouldn't have a right to advocate for bestiality legalization and hand out pamphlets to everyone. Just as, you shouldn't be approaching young students with that kind of material.

Point being, they aren't really ready for political activism. If you consider that "off topic" in your thread, well sorry, but as I say, I don't think it's a good idea.

I beg your pardon but when I was finishing high school way back in 1967, I became a bit of a political activist. I marched in anti war rallies in my city and by the time I was 18, I marched on my college campus to protest some things. My political views have changed very little over the years, although my body isn't as perky or capable of doing what I could then, other than voting and encouraging young people to do the same. If you are a 15 year old, who follows what's going on in the country and cares about the future, you are old enough to get involved with political activism. I know many adults who don't have the maturity and will to do what these young people are trying to do. I don't like it when I'm stereotyped because of my age and I don't like it when teenagers are stereotyped as being too young or immature to get involved. We should be praising and supporting these kids, not discouraging them. They are the future, so why shouldn't they be the leaders of a new movement that has impacted them to such a horrific degree? We "kids" were activists during the Viet Nam War, because we were also the people most affected by it. 58000 of my peers died in that war, so of course we wanted to be involved. It's the youth that start movements.
And, btw, kids in their late teens are not easily manipulated by adults. Trump has manipulated a lot of people that are well into adulthood, so I don't see that your argument is at all convincing.

 

[Derec]

Teach them that square roots are nothing to be afraid of?
Students in Louisiana thought this math symbol looked like a gun. Police were called