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Pelosi: Impeachment Is Moving Forward

I said it a long time ago... I got the name wrong, but the concept is still sound... (as much as I bach the Dems for being incompetent politicians...)

The Dems know that Trump's best political strategy is to burn down his competition... with what "people are saying".. and all..
I thought that there were so many candidates to obscure the "real" runner. Hold Biden up as "The One".. let Trump spill all his beans on the table... then pull the switcho chango and raise Warren up as the candidate.. psych!

Get him to fire off all his ammo so trying to attack the "real" candidate just sounds like a broken record. I thought that Biden was the real candidate.. comeing in a little late and all... but maybe there is a secret other.. or Warren is "the man"...
 
Well, today Republicans will be talking about "leaks", instead of talking about how top US envoys were communicating with each other, quite alarmed about Trump's Ukrainian plans. Can see now why Volker quit.

And Trump will tweet Volker was a loser.

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"Are we now saying that security assistance and WH meeting are conditioned on investigations?" Taylor texted Sondland on September 1.

"Call me," Sondland responded. The context of Taylor's text message is not clear from the messages released by the committee.
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The GOP in the House and a few in the Senate are kind of in a fucked situation as they were pivoting on Quid Pro Quo. Now that it seems established, their only option is to whine about leaking... instead of getting this asshole out of the White House.

Trouble is, Pompeo seems involved, Pence might be involved, and Perry sounds like he is resigning (not certain whether Volker style or disgrace style).
 
text exchange between Sondland and Taylor said:
19, 12:31 :06 Bill Taylor: The message to the Ukrainians (and Russians)
we send with the decision on security assistance is key. With the hold, we have
already shaken their faith in us. Thus my nightmare scenario.

[9/9/19, 12:34:44 Bill Taylor: Counting on you to be right about this
interview, Gordon.

[9/9/19, 12:37:16 Gordon Sondland: Bill, I never said I was ?right?. I said
we are where we are and believe we have identi?ed the best pathway forward.
Lets hope it works.

[9/9/19, 12:47:11 Bill Taylor: As 1 said on the phone, I think it?s crazy to
withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign.

19, 5:19:35 Gordon Sondland: Bill, Ibelieve you are incorrect about
President Trump?s intentions. The President has been clear no quid pro
quo?s of any kind. The President is trying to evaluate whether Ukraine is truly
going to adopt the transparency and reforms that President Zelensky promised
during his campaign I suggest we stop the back and forth by text If you still have
concerns I recommend you give Lisa Kenna or a call to discuss them directly.
Thanks.
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One of these Ambassadors is a professional diplomat. The other Ambassador founded a hotel business. One guess who is who. There will be so much weight by the GOP on Sondland's "clear on no quid pro quo", but the professional diplomats are looking at this and thinking... ah....
 
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President Ellipsis said:
As President I have an obligation to end CORRUPTION, even if that means requesting the help of a foreign country or countries. It is done all the time. This has NOTHING to do with politics or a political campaign against the Bidens. This does have to do with their corruption!
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:hysterical:

No, but seriously...
:hysterical:

Having trouble maintaining my composure here. President Trump, the guy who offloaded his failing debt saturated casinos to the public company he created at a premium rate in order to get away filthy rich instead of destitute is saying he is on a mission to end corruption.

:hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical:

Next thing he'll tell us was he was "testing" the Ukrainian leader to see if he was corrupt.
 
No, this was a 'sting' to expose anarchist elements of the government. He, Pence, Pompeo, Guliana, and Barr all went about finding the disloyalists....
 
Here's the argument Trump has formulated and is seriously putting forward:
  1. The entire US (and allied) intelligence community is out to destroy me, because they all irrationally love Hillary Clinton and are forever pissed that I beat her.
  2. I can't, therefore, trust any of them to investigate the Bidens, in spite of the fact that I already know there is nothing to investigate.
  3. I need to threaten the newly elected President of the Ukraine for his help in bringing non-political justice to this terrible tragedy of nepotism that I suddenly and ironically care so very deeply about, except when it comes to my own family.

Here's the truth:
  1. I can't win without cheating, so I need to threaten the newly elected President of the Ukraine--who fawned all over me and essentially is me--to manufacture evidence against my likely opponent.

This has never been about investigating true crime. This was a shake down to force the very "hoax" Trump falsely claims was perpetrated against him. It's so transparent, it's air. But, of course, no one can ask, "Didn't you simply want Zelensky to create a fake version of the real Steele dossier against you?"
 
 
lpetrich said:
Aaron Rupar on Twitter: "REPORTER: What exactly did you hope the Ukrainian president would do about the Bidens?
TRUMP: "I would think that if they were honest about it, they'd start a major investigation ... they should investigate the Bidens ... China likewise should start an investigation." https://t.co/gLVBjmSs3q" / Twitter - some video of that
then
Lawrence O'Donnell on Twitter: "Trump believes if you walk into the bank in broad daylight and publicly announce you’re robbing the bank, then it’s legal. https://t.co/8QVXC97z4M" / Twitter

:eek:
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The difference with the China statement was there was quid pro quo, he just asks them to do it... of which China will say "WTF?! Why is this guy still the leader?"

Of course, revelations that Trump told China the US would hold its tongue while China dealt harshly with protests in Hong Kong while they worked out a trade deal indicates Trump is a fucking moron willing to sacrifice the little goodwill image the US has left for personal gains so he can claim a quasi-victory over China in a trade war that never needed to be waged.
 
 
T.G.G. Moogly said:
lpetrich said:
Aaron Rupar on Twitter: "REPORTER: What exactly did you hope the Ukrainian president would do about the Bidens?
TRUMP: "I would think that if they were honest about it, they'd start a major investigation ... they should investigate the Bidens ... China likewise should start an investigation." https://t.co/gLVBjmSs3q" / Twitter - some video of that
then
Lawrence O'Donnell on Twitter: "Trump believes if you walk into the bank in broad daylight and publicly announce you’re robbing the bank, then it’s legal. https://t.co/8QVXC97z4M" / Twitter

:eek:
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And when he brandishes a gun and everyone sees the gun, he then says, "this is not a gun."

Trumpo is going for broke because it is his only option.
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Images of a potential Clue sketch on SNL are appearing in my mind.
 
Jimmy Higgins said:
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The difference with the China statement was there was quid pro quo, he just asks them to do it... of which China will say "WTF?! Why is this guy still the leader?"
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I assume you mean to say with China there was no quid pro quo.
 
I fully support the President's desire to get to the bottom of any and all instances of nepotism and conflicts of interest and prosecute those guilty to the fullest extent of the law. So, Ukraine, China, especially, if you're listening: The Nepotism Might Finally Be Too Much to Ignore

It's wonderful to see the President finally getting serious about seeking justice for any such conflicts across party lines, having nothing whatsoever to do with the 2020 election.

ETA: Oh, yeah, I almost forgot these 2,310 (and counting) conflicts and the Turtle's own.

You GO GET THEM MR. PRESIDENT! We're 100% behind you.
 
Jimmy Higgins said:
T.G.G. Moogly said:
lpetrich said:
Aaron Rupar on Twitter: "REPORTER: What exactly did you hope the Ukrainian president would do about the Bidens?
TRUMP: "I would think that if they were honest about it, they'd start a major investigation ... they should investigate the Bidens ... China likewise should start an investigation." https://t.co/gLVBjmSs3q" / Twitter - some video of that
then
Lawrence O'Donnell on Twitter: "Trump believes if you walk into the bank in broad daylight and publicly announce you’re robbing the bank, then it’s legal. https://t.co/8QVXC97z4M" / Twitter

:eek:
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And when he brandishes a gun and everyone sees the gun, he then says, "this is not a gun."

Trumpo is going for broke because it is his only option.
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Images of a potential Clue sketch on SNL are appearing in my mind.
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TRUMP: I did it.
PENCE: Sir, are you suspecting or accusing? You hzve to say.
PELOSI: He's bragging.
T: i accuse Me. I shot Mr. Body. With my revolver. On 5th Avenue.
NUNES: I simply will not stand for someone talking about the President this way!
AOC: He IS the President!
Pelosi: Don't remind me.
N: Even so!
T: I can accuse me. I have the best accusations. Because i was there.
N: No, i don't believe it.
GULIANA: i have hidden the memos about the plan to shoot Body. No one will ever see them.
PELOSI: Can i see those?
G: sure, here.
 
I'm thinking more along the lines where the power goes out, a gun shot, power back on, person dead, Trump is holding the gun.

*bickering back and forth*

Power goes out again. Screams of pain. Power on. Person stabbed to death. Trump's hands are bloody and holding a knife.

*bickering back and forth*

Power out again... loud thud. Power on. Person squashed by large gold safe with Trump etched on it.

*bickering back and forth*

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Jacqueline Alemany on Twitter: "🚨 🚨 Bill Taylor to Sondland: "Are we now saying that security assistance and WH meeting are conditioned on investigations?" https://t.co/sAEETFY51Q" / Twitter
has a screenshot snippet. I looked for the original, and I found
Adam Schiff on Twitter: "After receiving a trove of important documents from the first of the state department witnesses, my fellow chairs and I highlight some of those deserving of the most attention and what is at stake. Read them here: https://t.co/kirRyA2pF1" / Twitter
linking to
621801458E982E9903839ABC7404A917.chairmen-letter-on-state-departmnent-texts-10-03-19.pdf

These two sources have annotations:
Text messages between Trump officials, Giuliani, Ukrainians, annotated
Read the Text Messages Between U.S. and Ukrainian Officials - The New York Times

In a recent town hall, the one with Ms. Eat Babies in it, AOC stated that impeachment should have been done a long time ago, that she finds it "boring" and that she is "over it". But she could not resist tweeting
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "Well, that’s that on that.
No wonder Pompeo tried to block release of these records. It documents it all right here. https://t.co/iQde2SIOPr" / Twitter

She also stated
Public Citizen on Twitter: "Impeachment is the short-term action we need to take to preserve our democracy.
But if we are really going to thrive as a country, we need to make long term investments and keep our eyes on the prize of social, economic, and racial justice. — @AOC https://t.co/ntH5qRR127" / Twitter
 
Republicans silent on Trump's call for China to investigate Biden - CNNPolitics
CNN contacted the offices of more than 80 Republican lawmakers in the House and Senate to see if any had concerns about President Donald Trump's remarkable public call for China to investigate Joe Biden, a leading Democratic candidate to replace him as President, and Biden's son Hunter.
Only a few responded; just one expressed misgivings to CNN, although two others had earlier released similar statements.
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Mitt Romney, Ben Sasse, and Will Hurd were the only critical ones. Marco Rubio claimed that Trump was trolling the news media.

No quid pro quo with China, unlike with Ukraine, but Trump has a possible quid for China's quo: reduced tariffs.

But it's good that House Democrats are going ahead and impeaching that motherfucker.

Joni Ernst confronted by Iowan constituent for not 'standing up' to Trump - CNNPolitics


Maxine Waters on Twitter: "I'm calling on the GOP to stop Trump's filthy talk of whistleblowers being spies & using mob language implying they should be killed. Impeachment is not good enough for Trump. He needs to be imprisoned & placed in solitary confinement. But for now, impeachment is the imperative." / Twitter

Maxine Waters says Trump 'needs to be imprisoned' in 'solitary confinement' - CNNPolitics
Maxine Waters defends saying Trump should be imprisoned in solitary - CNN Video
Rep. Maxine Waters (D-CA) defended her tweet calling for President Donald Trump to be imprisoned and said that the media isn't focusing enough on Trump's actions.
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Maxine Waters (@RepMaxineWaters) / Twitter - lots more stuff on impeachment. House Democrats are finally catching up with Maxine Waters on impeachment - The Washington Post - she's wanted him impeached since 2017.
 
Imprisoned in solitary, but with a tv just outside the cage, set to local broadcast gospel channels... 24/7.
 
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