Erase men from your lives: this week in feminism

[Trausti]

Thanks for revealing your attitude towards men.

That is not true and you damn well know it. Can you read, Metaphor? Do you just let your eyes glaze over when someone who challenges your bullshit ideology responds to you? Those attitudes that encourage and enable men to be emotionally stunted baboons are part and parcel to patriarchy and authoritarian religion. MY attitude toward men is that they can and should be as emotional or as gentle or as feminine (by anyone's god damn definition of such) as they damn well please without the bullying morons patriarchal culture has produced abusing them for it.

You're all cucks to each other. Do you realize that? All you right wing authoritarian males just want to please and get the approval of other men. Grow the fuck up already.

Is this vagsplaining?

 

[Angry Floof]

And again, there is NO "foundation" of feminism that girls and boys have equal interests. Since you can't figure it out for yourself, your inhumane patriarchy that you so testerically defend has for millennia dictated, or tried to dictate, what roles and interests girls and boys should have. And it's pretty deeply ingrained. Just allow a little boy to put on a pink dress simply because he likes it and see what happens when there are backward morons anywhere around.

 

[Angry Floof]

Thanks for revealing your attitude towards men.

That is not true and you damn well know it. Can you read, Metaphor? Do you just let your eyes glaze over when someone who challenges your bullshit ideology responds to you? Those attitudes that encourage and enable men to be emotionally stunted baboons are part and parcel to patriarchy and authoritarian religion. MY attitude toward men is that they can and should be as emotional or as gentle or as feminine (by anyone's god damn definition of such) as they damn well please without the bullying morons patriarchal culture has produced abusing them for it.

You're all cucks to each other. Do you realize that? All you right wing authoritarian males just want to please and get the approval of other men. Grow the fuck up already.

Is this vagsplaining?

Yes. Die mad about it.

You still have nothing of substance to say. In fact, you get eaten alive by Toni and LD and others constantly and yet you still can't stop yourself coming back and contributing nothing but empty attention seeking. Is this how you and your ilk pretend to "save face" when you have nothing?

 

[Metaphor]

Thanks for revealing your attitude towards men.

That is not true and you damn well know it. Can you read, Metaphor? Do you just let your eyes glaze over when someone who challenges your bullshit ideology responds to you? Those attitudes that encourage and enable men to be emotionally stunted baboons are part and parcel to patriarchy and authoritarian religion. MY attitude toward men is that they can and should be as emotional or as gentle or as feminine (by anyone's god damn definition of such) as they damn well please without the bullying morons patriarchal culture has produced abusing them for it.

You're all cucks to each other. Do you realize that? All you right wing authoritarian males just want to please and get the approval of other men. Grow the fuck up already.

Men are not emotionally stunted baboons.

The idea that I'm a "right wing authoritarian male" is so deranged it could only have come from a feminist. Fuck off with your misandry and join Coffin's feminist lesbian party. Along with her, you can attempt to minimise your interaction with men and die culturally enfeebled and impoverished.

 

[Metaphor]

And again, there is NO "foundation" of feminism that girls and boys have equal interests. Since you can't figure it out for yourself, your inhumane patriarchy that you so testerically defend has for millennia dictated, or tried to dictate, what roles and interests girls and boys should have. And it's pretty deeply ingrained. Just allow a little boy to put on a pink dress simply because he likes it and see what happens when there are backward morons anywhere around.

Yes, feminine boys are treated far more harshly than masculine girls. I'm glad you acknowledge that.

I don't defend the patriarchy. It doesn't exist.

 

[Angry Floof]

Thanks for revealing your attitude towards men.

That is not true and you damn well know it. Can you read, Metaphor? Do you just let your eyes glaze over when someone who challenges your bullshit ideology responds to you? Those attitudes that encourage and enable men to be emotionally stunted baboons are part and parcel to patriarchy and authoritarian religion. MY attitude toward men is that they can and should be as emotional or as gentle or as feminine (by anyone's god damn definition of such) as they damn well please without the bullying morons patriarchal culture has produced abusing them for it.

You're all cucks to each other. Do you realize that? All you right wing authoritarian males just want to please and get the approval of other men. Grow the fuck up already.

Men are not emotionally stunted baboons.

The idea that I'm a "right wing authoritarian male" is so deranged it could only have come from a feminist. Fuck off with your misandry and join Coffin's feminist lesbian party. Along with her, you can attempt to minimise your interaction with men and die culturally enfeebled and impoverished.

A great many men are emotionally stunted baboons because that is what they are encouraged to be. Fortunately, #notallmen are raised to be that way or they had the wherewithal to recognize and value their own humanity beyond just mindless privilege and entitlement and the approval of more aggressive males.

There are clear and distinct cognitive traits that correspond to right wing ideology, religion, culture, and politics. You and your fellow feminism bashers demonstrate these traits on a regular basis. Why not go do some exploration of the research on this topic and see if you recognize anything. Also, I don't know who Coffin is or anything about her feminist party. I can see why someone like that would seem large and important in your world, though.

 

[Angry Floof]

And again, there is NO "foundation" of feminism that girls and boys have equal interests. Since you can't figure it out for yourself, your inhumane patriarchy that you so testerically defend has for millennia dictated, or tried to dictate, what roles and interests girls and boys should have. And it's pretty deeply ingrained. Just allow a little boy to put on a pink dress simply because he likes it and see what happens when there are backward morons anywhere around.

Yes, feminine boys are treated far more harshly than masculine girls. I'm glad you acknowledge that.

I don't defend the patriarchy. It doesn't exist.

Of course I acknowledge that. Toxic masculinity teaches boys to bully them and to hide or suppress their own tendencies or desires that the abusive daddy figures would bully and punish them for.

Yes, patriarchal culture certainly does exist. It's not something solid and concrete or a formal organization that you could attack, though, so it's easier to just say it doesn't exist, especially when it might require self reflection and challenging one's own assumptions in order to see it more clearly and objectively.

 

[Metaphor]

Men are not emotionally stunted baboons.

The idea that I'm a "right wing authoritarian male" is so deranged it could only have come from a feminist. Fuck off with your misandry and join Coffin's feminist lesbian party. Along with her, you can attempt to minimise your interaction with men and die culturally enfeebled and impoverished.

A great many men are emotionally stunted baboons because that is what they are encouraged to be. Fortunately, #notallmen are raised to be that way or they had the wherewithal to recognize and value their own humanity beyond just mindless privilege and entitlement and the approval of more aggressive males.

There are clear and distinct cognitive traits that correspond to right wing ideology, religion, culture, and politics. You and your fellow feminism bashers demonstrate these traits on a regular basis. Why not go do some exploration of the research on this topic and see if you recognize anything. Also, I don't know who Coffin is or anything about her feminist party. I can see why someone like that would seem large and important in your world, though.

For fuck's sake Floof, Coffin is the lesbian feminist in the OP, and she described her lesbianism as an 'achievement' and encouraged women to join because men won't ruin the 'lesbian party'.

Thanks for indicating you didn't read the OP and have come into the thread only to bash men.

Also, I'm not going to do your homework for you. You said:

There are clear and distinct cognitive traits that correspond to right wing ideology, religion, culture, and politics. You and your fellow feminism bashers demonstrate these traits on a regular basis.

What "right wing ideology, religion, culture, and politics" and "right wing authoritarianism" traits have I displayed? Name them.

But, I'll do a little bit of your homework for you. On Wiki:

Right-wing authoritarianism (RWA) is an ideological variable studied in political, social and personality psychology. Right-wing authoritarians are people who have a high degree of willingness to submit to authorities they perceive as established and legitimate,

Nope.

who adhere to societal conventions and norms

Hard no

and who are hostile and punitive in their attitudes towards people who do not adhere to them.

No.

 

[Angry Floof]

For fuck's sake Floof, Coffin is the lesbian feminist in the OP, and she described her lesbianism as an 'achievement' and encouraged women to join because men won't ruin the 'lesbian party'.

Thanks for indicating you didn't read the OP and have come into the thread only to bash men.

For fuck's sake, Metaphor! I read the OP but had never before heard of this woman and don't give a shit about some obscure instance you scoured around for and found to confirm your biases!

Also, I'm not going to do your homework for you. You said:

There are clear and distinct cognitive traits that correspond to right wing ideology, religion, culture, and politics. You and your fellow feminism bashers demonstrate these traits on a regular basis.

What "right wing ideology, religion, culture, and politics" and "right wing authoritarianism" traits have I displayed? Name them.

But, I'll do a little bit of your homework for you. On Wiki:

Right-wing authoritarianism (RWA) is an ideological variable studied in political, social and personality psychology. Right-wing authoritarians are people who have a high degree of willingness to submit to authorities they perceive as established and legitimate,

Nope.

who adhere to societal conventions and norms

Hard no

and who are hostile and punitive in their attitudes towards people who do not adhere to them.

No.

You are definitely a conformist to traditional thinking about men and women and a slew of other social attitudes and are definitely hostile and punitive in your attitudes toward people who do not adhere to them.

Any topic on the way that women, minorities, classes of people, sexually "deviant" people who do not conform to an infantile, narrow, black and white frame work of sexuality and gender are perceived, treated, respected, disrespected, etc., and you will be there with your hostility and punitive attitude toward anything that resembles an open, accepting, non-traditional attitude. Your every post and thread on this board is testament to that hostile and punitive attitude toward attitudes that conflict with traditional, conservative views.

So maybe you have a few "libertarian" social views about abortion or weed or some shit, but your mind is most definitely a right wing authoritarian mind.

 

[Metaphor]

For fuck's sake, Metaphor! I read the OP but had never before heard of this woman and don't give a shit about some obscure instance you scoured around for and found to confirm your biases!

I'd never heard of her either. That isn't the point. You obviously came into the thread to be angry and to bash men because you "don't give a shit" about the OP.

You are definitely a conformist to traditional thinking about men and women

Like what? Name it.

and a slew of other social attitudes

Like what? Name them.

and are definitely hostile and punitive in your attitudes toward people who do not adhere to them.

Like who? Name them.

Any topic on the way that women, minorities, classes of people, sexually "deviant" people who do not conform to an infantile, narrow, black and white frame work of sexuality and gender are perceived, treated, respected, disrespected, etc., and you will be there with your hostility and punitive attitude toward anything that resembles an open, accepting, non-traditional attitude. Your every post and thread on this board is testament to that hostile and punitive attitude toward attitudes that conflict with traditional, conservative views.

Evidence?

So maybe you have a few "libertarian" social views about abortion or weed or some shit, but your mind is most definitely a right wing authoritarian mind.

You know fuck nothing about me.

 

[Toni]

Thanks for revealing your attitude towards men.

That is not true and you damn well know it. Can you read, Metaphor? Do you just let your eyes glaze over when someone who challenges your bullshit ideology responds to you? Those attitudes that encourage and enable men to be emotionally stunted baboons are part and parcel to patriarchy and authoritarian religion. MY attitude toward men is that they can and should be as emotional or as gentle or as feminine (by anyone's god damn definition of such) as they damn well please without the bullying morons patriarchal culture has produced abusing them for it.

You're all cucks to each other. Do you realize that? All you right wing authoritarian males just want to please and get the approval of other men. Grow the fuck up already.

Men are not emotionally stunted baboons.

The idea that I'm a "right wing authoritarian male" is so deranged it could only have come from a feminist. Fuck off with your misandry and join Coffin's feminist lesbian party. Along with her, you can attempt to minimise your interaction with men and die culturally enfeebled and impoverished.

Truth hurts, huh?

 

[Toni]

I'd never heard of her either. That isn't the point. You obviously came into the thread to be angry and to bash men because you "don't give a shit" about the OP.

Thank you for confirming what we have all long suspected: You just dig up some obscure shit to post here in order to be angry and to bash women (or black people).

You know fuck nothing about me.

You're actually pretty transparent.

 

[Metaphor]

Men are not emotionally stunted baboons.

The idea that I'm a "right wing authoritarian male" is so deranged it could only have come from a feminist. Fuck off with your misandry and join Coffin's feminist lesbian party. Along with her, you can attempt to minimise your interaction with men and die culturally enfeebled and impoverished.

Truth hurts, huh?

Try uttering something other than endless falsehoods and I'll let you know.

 

[Metaphor]

Thank you for confirming what we have all long suspected: You just dig up some obscure shit to post here in order to be angry and to bash women (or black people).

Sure hun.

You're actually pretty transparent.

Sure hun.

 

[Rhea]

and who are hostile and punitive in their attitudes towards people who do not adhere to them.

No.

A quick search on posts originated by Metaphor suggests that hostility and punitive behavior toward people who do not adhere to your norms is actually quite on the nose.

 

[Metaphor]

A quick search on posts originated by Metaphor suggests that hostility and punitive behavior toward people who do not adhere to your norms is actually quite on the nose.

I don't know what 'punitive behaviour' you think I've engaged in. I didn't neg people when that option was available, although people were certainly quick to do it to me.

In any case, the charge was that I was 'hostile and punitive' to people who do not 'adhere to societal conventions and norms', not 'my norms'.

Meanwhile, Angry Floof called men emotionally stunted baboons, Toni called 40% of Americans morally bankrupt, and Jimmy Higgins, Don2, Jokodo, Jarhyn and company can think of nothing else but to come into my threads specifically to deride me, insult me, attack me, and then leave.

And I'm the hostile and punitive one. Oy gevalt.

 

[Rhea]

A quick search on posts originated by Metaphor suggests that hostility and punitive behavior toward people who do not adhere to your norms is actually quite on the nose.

I don't know what 'punitive behaviour' you think I've engaged in.

I was contemplating the large number of threads opened to deride and degrade the feminist movement, the trans community, and other movements, groups and communities using any strange or remote behavior that you find in a corner of the internet that you then apply as representative of the whole group in order, as you admit in the thread, to “bring them disrepute.”

 

[laughing dog]

A quick search on posts originated by Metaphor suggests that hostility and punitive behavior toward people who do not adhere to your norms is actually quite on the nose.

I don't know what 'punitive behaviour' you think I've engaged in. I didn't neg people when that option was available, although people were certainly quick to do it to me.

In any case, the charge was that I was 'hostile and punitive' to people who do not 'adhere to societal conventions and norms', not 'my norms'.

Meanwhile, Angry Floof called men emotionally stunted baboons, Toni called 40% of Americans morally bankrupt, and Jimmy Higgins, Don2, Jokodo, Jarhyn and company can think of nothing else but to come into my threads specifically to deride me, insult me, attack me, and then leave.

And I'm the hostile and punitive one. Oy gevalt.

I believe AF did not mean that all men were emotionally stunted baboons, nor did Toni necessarily call 40% of Americans morally bankrupt. Remember words have meaning. As far as I know, none of them ever called a poster with whom they disagree a "racist fuck".

Now, this particular OP claim is pretty stupid. I am not surprised anymore that there are people in a world of over 6 billion persons who are willing and able to publicly say stupid stuff. Of course, the fact a feminist said something incredibly stupid does not mean that feminists or feminism support it anymore than when a white gay guy says something stupid that means that white gay guys support it either.

 

[Metaphor]

I was contemplating the large number of threads opened to deride and degrade the feminist movement,

Feminism is a specific ideology which I believe to have a false foundation. If criticising a specific group of people is a sign of right-wing authoritarianism, then the universes of plethoras of anti-Republican, anti-Trump threads ought to qualify. The entire politics discussion forum is an endless kvetchery of anti-Republican, anti-Trump hatred, day after day.

the trans community,

If by the 'trans community' you mean some trans activists who sow a deranged and Orwellian ideology, and have worked and succeeded at shutting down free speech, who are directly responsible for the exponential rise in the treatment of gender nonconforming children (like I once was) as if they were trans, using the most appalling gender stereotypes that would embarrass even an actual right wing authoritarian, destroying women's single-sex spaces and sports, and subjecting children to drugs for which the long-term effects are unknown, then sure. I start threads opposing those aspects of trans ideology. Of course, the trans people I follow on Twitter are absolutely hated, shunned, and reviled by the left, because they don't toe the line.

and other movements, groups and communities using any strange or remote behavior that you find in a corner of the internet that you then apply as representative of the whole group in order, as you admit in the thread, to “bring them disrepute.”

Feminism ought be brought into disrepute. It is systematically harmful to men, women, and children. It breeds bad thinking, bad policy, and bad blood.

 

[Metaphor]

I believe AF did not mean that all men were emotionally stunted baboons, nor did Toni necessarily call 40% of Americans morally bankrupt. Remember words have meaning. As far as I know, none of them ever called a poster with whom they disagree a "racist fuck".

Toni said "what in the racist fuck" after quoting me, after I pointed out that her endorsement of a two-parent family was normative whiteness. She appeared to be ignorant of this fact which I graciously enacted the labour to educate her on.

Now it's true she didn't call me a racist fuck, merely implied I said a racist thing. But I also felt obliged to point out to Toni that all white people are racist, so that she was, in fact, the racist fuck.

Unless, of course, Toni specifically disavows the notion that all white people are racist.

Do you, Toni?