A day without stupid?

[TomC]

No, but it's true that some Americans do behave this way... because they did. It's the No True Scotsman fallacy. It was a stupid thing to say of Biden. What I think he meant to say is that he wished no Americans behaved that way, but here we are.

Nothing personal, and I don't know you very well. Pardon me if I misunderstood your post.

But I can well understand why someone from a small monoculture in Europe wouldn't understand a huge and wildly diverse culture like the USA. There's relatively small extremist groups here that are much bigger than the entire country of Denmark. And even those extremist groups are more diverse than Denmark.
Tom

P.s.
One state, California, has about ten times the population of Denmark.

California has more Trump supporters than the entire population of Denmark. By a lot.
Tom

 

[DrZoidberg]

But he's not a God or a dictator. He's just USA's democratically elected leader. He doesn't get to decide those things.

But, wait. You JUST SAID that American behavior defines American traits. This is an American idiom used by an American to communicate an idea to other Americans.

Your permission to use the word is neither desired or required.

It makes me nervous when a democratically elected leader decides what it's citizens are thinking. Its thought policing. I understand that it's supposed to be inspirational. But to me it comes across as creepy.

George Bush did it right when he adressed the Iraqi who threw his shoe at Bush. Bush said that democracy is about differences of opinion.

 

[ZiprHead]

But he's not a God or a dictator. He's just USA's democratically elected leader. He doesn't get to decide those things.

But, wait. You JUST SAID that American behavior defines American traits. This is an American idiom used by an American to communicate an idea to other Americans.

Your permission to use the word is neither desired or required.

It makes me nervous when a democratically elected leader decides what it's citizens are thinking. Its thought policing. I understand that it's supposed to be inspirational. But to me it comes across as creepy.

Good thing that didn't happen.

 

[hurtinbuckaroo]

No, but it's true that some Americans do behave this way... because they did. It's the No True Scotsman fallacy. It was a stupid thing to say of Biden. What I think he meant to say is that he wished no Americans behaved that way, but here we are.

Nothing personal, and I don't know you very well. Pardon me if I misunderstood your post.

But I can well understand why someone from a small monoculture in Europe wouldn't understand a huge and wildly diverse culture like the USA. There's relatively small extremist groups here that are much bigger than the entire country of Denmark. And even those extremist groups are more diverse than Denmark.
Tom

P.s.
One state, California, has about ten times the population of Denmark.

California has more Trump supporters than the entire population of Denmark. By a lot.
Tom

And California is nicknamed “the People’s Republic”.

 

[hurtinbuckaroo]

But he's not a God or a dictator. He's just USA's democratically elected leader. He doesn't get to decide those things.

But, wait. You JUST SAID that American behavior defines American traits. This is an American idiom used by an American to communicate an idea to other Americans.

Your permission to use the word is neither desired or required.

It makes me nervous when a democratically elected leader decides what it's citizens are thinking. Its thought policing. I understand that it's supposed to be inspirational. But to me it comes across as creepy.

George Bush did it right when he adressed the Iraqi who threw his shoe at Bush. Bush said that democracy is about differences of opinion.

You don’t seem to understand the difference between describing what they think and telling them what to think.

When I know as little about a subject as you obviously do, I ask questions; I don’t present a textbook example of Dunning Kruger.

 

[Elixir]

Didn't know where else to put this, since there is no "day without irony" thread.

 

[ZiprHead]

Irony is a harsh mistress.

 

[Keith&Co.]

It makes me nervous when a democratically elected leader decides what it's citizens are thinking.

That's not what he's doing. He's appealing to the generally accepted mainstream "lofty ideals" we tend to congratulate ourselves on.

Its thought policing.

Wrong.

I understand that it's supposed to be inspirational.

Not exactly. More cautionary.

But to me it comes across as creepy.

You're projecting.

George Bush did it right when he adressed the Iraqi who threw his shoe at Bush. Bush said that democracy is about differences of opinion.

So glad you approve.
So sorry you still don't grok.

 

[Elixir]

 

[DrZoidberg]

It makes me nervous when a democratically elected leader decides what it's citizens are thinking. Its thought policing. I understand that it's supposed to be inspirational. But to me it comes across as creepy.

George Bush did it right when he adressed the Iraqi who threw his shoe at Bush. Bush said that democracy is about differences of opinion.

You don’t seem to understand the difference between describing what they think and telling them what to think.

When I know as little about a subject as you obviously do, I ask questions; I don’t present a textbook example of Dunning Kruger.

So what is the difference? In this context. I can't see it

 

[DrZoidberg]

No, but it's true that some Americans do behave this way... because they did. It's the No True Scotsman fallacy. It was a stupid thing to say of Biden. What I think he meant to say is that he wished no Americans behaved that way, but here we are.

Nothing personal, and I don't know you very well. Pardon me if I misunderstood your post.

But I can well understand why someone from a small monoculture in Europe wouldn't understand a huge and wildly diverse culture like the USA. There's relatively small extremist groups here that are much bigger than the entire country of Denmark. And even those extremist groups are more diverse than Denmark.
Tom

P.s.
One state, California, has about ten times the population of Denmark.

California has more Trump supporters than the entire population of Denmark. By a lot.
Tom

So what? All you need is one American who doesn't live up to it to disprove the statement

 

[Keith&Co.]

P.s.
One state, California, has about ten times the population of Denmark.

California has more Trump supporters than the entire population of Denmark. By a lot.
Tom

So what? All you need is one American who doesn't live up to it to disprove the statement

Lofty ideas only work if they're unanimous? So, any ideal drifting away from "humans have at least one pulse" or "body temperature of 98.6 plus or minus 30 degrees," maybe "at least 75 bones," is disproven?
Wait'll the guys in the Philosophy Dept. hear about this.

 

[TomC]

P.s.
One state, California, has about ten times the population of Denmark.

California has more Trump supporters than the entire population of Denmark. By a lot.
Tom

So what? All you need is one American who doesn't live up to it to disprove the statement

OK.
I'm trying to understand you. And I am.

Tom

 

[ZiprHead]

Video: American Airlines pilot says he'll divert plane and strand Trump supporters in Kansas if they don't 'behave'

A pilot on an American Airlines flight from Washington, DC, to Phoenix, threatened to divert the plane and strand unruly Trump fans in Kansas.

The flight was on Friday, two days after a mob of Trump supporters broke into the US Capitol, which derailed Congress's session and led to five deaths.

From the beginning of the flight, Videos show people chanting "USA" and "fight for Trump."

Trump supporter Mindy Robinson, who posted one video, described the plane as "full of patriots." One of the videos shows several passengers wearing what appear to be red Trump hats.

[TWEET]<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Wow. I’m on a plane full of patriots flying from DC to Phoenix and we started chanting “USA” ...and the Captain came on said told us he’d drop us off in Kansas if he had to if we didn’t obey their every single rule.<br><br>American Airlines is everything but American.<a href="https://twitter.com/AmericanAir?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AmericanAir</a> <a href="https://t.co/duFt2W90cc">pic.twitter.com/duFt2W90cc</a></p>— Mindy Robinson ???????????? (@iheartmindy) <a href="https://twitter.com/iheartmindy/status/1347630575159570442?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 8, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>[/TWEET]

 

[Shadowy Man]

The culture war that has long been brewing in this country has finally arrived it seems.

 

[Patooka]

Tim Pool has had a solid erection for at least four days. And this cunt is very popular. Not a good thing. Because pointing out the fucking obvious has to be said nowadays.

 

[DrZoidberg]

P.s.
One state, California, has about ten times the population of Denmark.

California has more Trump supporters than the entire population of Denmark. By a lot.
Tom

So what? All you need is one American who doesn't live up to it to disprove the statement

Lofty ideas only work if they're unanimous? So, any ideal drifting away from "humans have at least one pulse" or "body temperature of 98.6 plus or minus 30 degrees," maybe "at least 75 bones," is disproven?
Wait'll the guys in the Philosophy Dept. hear about this.

You're missing the point. The whole idea with democracy is that individual citizens get to follow their own ideals and values. That's what we like about democracy. There's no, from above, imposed thoughts to think.

His statement is fundamentaly an anti-democratic statement.

 

[fromderinside]

At what point does propaganda belief negate possession of ideals and values?

There were no Marching Orders from Trump. He just made enabling statements which when connected with propaganda belief ratchets up to: "Do It! Do it NOW!"

Not so sure humans have choice. Many just go with the flow which when it is semi-criminal or antisocial becomes mob behavior. Apologist attitudes by those opposing such behavior actually enables the behaviors exhibited.

 

[hurtinbuckaroo]

Lofty ideas only work if they're unanimous? So, any ideal drifting away from "humans have at least one pulse" or "body temperature of 98.6 plus or minus 30 degrees," maybe "at least 75 bones," is disproven?
Wait'll the guys in the Philosophy Dept. hear about this.

You're missing the point. The whole idea with democracy is that individual citizens get to follow their own ideals and values. That's what we like about democracy. There's no, from above, imposed thoughts to think.

His statement is fundamentaly an anti-democratic statement.

Have you forgotten that the “ideal” of these individuals is to overthrow a democratically elected government? What we like about democracy is that it’s not OK to do that, i.e. as Biden said, “that’s not who we are” as a nation.

I think we’re all wasting our keystrokes with you. I know I’m done.

 

[KeepTalking]

It makes me nervous when a democratically elected leader decides what it's citizens are thinking. Its thought policing. I understand that it's supposed to be inspirational. But to me it comes across as creepy.

George Bush did it right when he adressed the Iraqi who threw his shoe at Bush. Bush said that democracy is about differences of opinion.

You don’t seem to understand the difference between describing what they think and telling them what to think.

When I know as little about a subject as you obviously do, I ask questions; I don’t present a textbook example of Dunning Kruger.

So what is the difference? In this context. I can't see it

Maybe a little self reflection will help you to understand.

Are you currently using words in a way that you feel allows you to convey your meaning, or are you policing our thoughts? Now, apply that answer to the words Biden spoke.