Another White Mass Murderer Taken Alive

[Elixir]

Another mass murder in Orange, California. The news story didn't state the race of the shooter; according to one of us pro-gun TFTers (can't remember which one) this means the shooter was Black: MSM would be delighted to identify the race of white shooters as part of their White Lives Don't Matter platform.

Is he black, is he white? Hard to tell. His name would indicate "brown". Maybe he's "part Cherokee".



Regardless, or as white supremacists often say, irregardless, I think it's a mistake to lump this event in with the Boulder massacre.
From the reports, this guy wasn't a terrorist; he just wanted to murder some people he knew, so he did. Wasn't even sporting the requisite AR-15, so no - not a terrorist.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Another mass murder in Orange, California. The news story didn't state the race of the shooter; according to one of us pro-gun TFTers (can't remember which one) this means the shooter was Black: MSM would be delighted to identify the race of white shooters as part of their White Lives Don't Matter platform.

Thoughts and prayers. I hope the anti-gun, anti-cop anti-America fanatics will have the grace to stifle their rants for at least a week, until these California victims are buried.

A child was a victim, so I presumed domestic "incident".

The "suspect" is Aminadab Gaxiola Gonzalez, and apparently not a family thing. WTF?!

The shooting was likely related to a “business and personal relationship which existed between the suspect and all of the victims,” Lt. Jennifer Amat, a spokeswoman for the Orange Police Department, said at a news conference on Thursday morning.

My guess is a fired worker shooting up his workplace.

 

[TV and credit cards]

Colorado put two new misdemeanors on the books to finally put a something to gun violence.

Colorado Democratic Gov. Jared Polis signed two bills tightening gun regulations into law on Monday, nearly a month after the mass shooting in Boulder, Colorado, left a police officer and nine others dead.
Both measures were introduced before the mass shooting occurred on March 22 at a grocery store, but the tragedy added to the public pressure and urgency to act on legislation, lawmakers have said.

Democrats go bold. Not just bold. Misdemeanor bold. Republicans stay at home.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Colorado put two new misdemeanors on the books to finally put a something to gun violence.

Colorado Democratic Gov. Jared Polis signed two bills tightening gun regulations into law on Monday, nearly a month after the mass shooting in Boulder, Colorado, left a police officer and nine others dead.
Both measures were introduced before the mass shooting occurred on March 22 at a grocery store, but the tragedy added to the public pressure and urgency to act on legislation, lawmakers have said.

Democrats go bold. Not just bold. Misdemeanor bold. Republicans stay at home.

As usual, the Democrats go too far. That first one can't hope to survive court challenges as it imposes an impossible burden.

 

[Arctish]

Colorado put two new misdemeanors on the books to finally put a something to gun violence.

Colorado Democratic Gov. Jared Polis signed two bills tightening gun regulations into law on Monday, nearly a month after the mass shooting in Boulder, Colorado, left a police officer and nine others dead.
Both measures were introduced before the mass shooting occurred on March 22 at a grocery store, but the tragedy added to the public pressure and urgency to act on legislation, lawmakers have said.

Democrats go bold. Not just bold. Misdemeanor bold. Republicans stay at home.

As usual, the Democrats go too far. That first one can't hope to survive court challenges as it imposes an impossible burden.

SB21-078
Lost Or Stolen Firearms
Concerning the responsibility of an individual firearm owner to report a missing firearm.

The bill requires an individual who owns a firearm to report the loss or theft of that firearm to a law enforcement agency within 5 days after discovering that the firearm was lost or stolen.

What is so impossible about reporting your gun was lost or stolen within five days of discovering it's missing?

 

[Shadowy Man]

As usual, the Democrats go too far. That first one can't hope to survive court challenges as it imposes an impossible burden.

SB21-078
Lost Or Stolen Firearms
Concerning the responsibility of an individual firearm owner to report a missing firearm.

The bill requires an individual who owns a firearm to report the loss or theft of that firearm to a law enforcement agency within 5 days after discovering that the firearm was lost or stolen.

What is so impossible about reporting your gun was lost or stolen within five days of discovering it's missing?

Freedom of speech issue? The government can’t compel you to report?

 

[TV and credit cards]

What is so impossible about reporting your gun was lost or stolen within five days of discovering it's missing?

Freedom of speech issue? The government can’t compel you to report?

True to a point. If that gun is then used to commit a crime you may be criminally liable for aiding that crime. And perhaps a civil suit from the harmed party.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

As usual, the Democrats go too far. That first one can't hope to survive court challenges as it imposes an impossible burden.

SB21-078
Lost Or Stolen Firearms
Concerning the responsibility of an individual firearm owner to report a missing firearm.

The bill requires an individual who owns a firearm to report the loss or theft of that firearm to a law enforcement agency within 5 days after discovering that the firearm was lost or stolen.

What is so impossible about reporting your gun was lost or stolen within five days of discovering it's missing?

Strange, the version I read had within five days of it being stolen, not of the discovery of it being stolen. Maybe they wised up and fixed it. Note the CNN article:

requires a gun owner to report their lost or stolen firearm within five days or be subject to fines

That's going to snag far fewer people, but it could still be a problem for someone in the backcountry.

 

[Shadowy Man]

What is so impossible about reporting your gun was lost or stolen within five days of discovering it's missing?

Freedom of speech issue? The government can’t compel you to report?

True to a point. If that gun is then used to commit a crime you may be criminally liable for aiding that crime. And perhaps a civil suit from the harmed party.

They’ll pull the old car comparison: if someone steals your car and commits a crime with it should you be held liable?

 

[Arctish]

What is so impossible about reporting your gun was lost or stolen within five days of discovering it's missing?

Strange, the version I read had within five days of it being stolen, not of the discovery of it being stolen. Maybe they wised up and fixed it. Note the CNN article:

requires a gun owner to report their lost or stolen firearm within five days or be subject to fines

That's going to snag far fewer people, but it could still be a problem for someone in the backcountry.

Why would that be a problem?

If you notice your gun is missing and you can't find it within a day or two, report it missing to local law enforcement. How hard is that?

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Strange, the version I read had within five days of it being stolen, not of the discovery of it being stolen. Maybe they wised up and fixed it. Note the CNN article:



That's going to snag far fewer people, but it could still be a problem for someone in the backcountry.

Why would that be a problem?

If you notice your gun is missing and you can't find it within a day or two, report it missing to local law enforcement. How hard is that?

What if you're not planning to be anywhere near local law enforcement for the next 5 days? And, yes, people do that. I'm looking over a map for the Continental Divide Trail. I see one spot where the next resupply point is 182 miles away. If you can't even buy food or get mail I seriously doubt there's any law enforcement presence. I just examined the satellite view and went more than 70 miles with no signs of mankind even at a very high zoom--and I'm not even sure what I found in the middle of the section is actually of human origin. If you lose your gun out there are you supposed to blow a couple of days hiking out to civilization to report it? (Yes, I picked the hardest trail--because it doesn't go through any gun-unfriendly states.)

 

[Rhea]

Why would that be a problem?

If you notice your gun is missing and you can't find it within a day or two, report it missing to local law enforcement. How hard is that?

What if you're not planning to be anywhere near local law enforcement for the next 5 days? And, yes, people do that. I'm looking over a map for the Continental Divide Trail. I see one spot where the next resupply point is 182 miles away. If you can't even buy food or get mail I seriously doubt there's any law enforcement presence. I just examined the satellite view and went more than 70 miles with no signs of mankind even at a very high zoom--and I'm not even sure what I found in the middle of the section is actually of human origin. If you lose your gun out there are you supposed to blow a couple of days hiking out to civilization to report it? (Yes, I picked the hardest trail--because it doesn't go through any gun-unfriendly states.)

If your **GUN** is stolen, you should make a plan to be near law enforcement and report it. Or near enough that you can make a report (cell phone, which see (and yes I know about cell phone coverage, I don’t have it at my home. We know where to drive to in order to obtain it.))

If your **GUN** is stolen and you live 182 miles from law enforcement, one would think that you’re smart enough to make it a point to find out who, with your gun, is between you and the law enforcement.

If someone has broken into your backcountry home and stolen your gun - are you so stupid you’d just say, “eh, maybe next month.” ?

If your gun is stolen, why do you not care?

 

[Rhea]

But this case is almost 7 years old. Why are you still harping on it?

I just spat out my drink.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Why would that be a problem?

If you notice your gun is missing and you can't find it within a day or two, report it missing to local law enforcement. How hard is that?

What if you're not planning to be anywhere near local law enforcement for the next 5 days? And, yes, people do that. I'm looking over a map for the Continental Divide Trail. I see one spot where the next resupply point is 182 miles away. If you can't even buy food or get mail I seriously doubt there's any law enforcement presence. I just examined the satellite view and went more than 70 miles with no signs of mankind even at a very high zoom--and I'm not even sure what I found in the middle of the section is actually of human origin. If you lose your gun out there are you supposed to blow a couple of days hiking out to civilization to report it? (Yes, I picked the hardest trail--because it doesn't go through any gun-unfriendly states.)

If your **GUN** is stolen, you should make a plan to be near law enforcement and report it. Or near enough that you can make a report (cell phone, which see (and yes I know about cell phone coverage, I don’t have it at my home. We know where to drive to in order to obtain it.))

If your **GUN** is stolen and you live 182 miles from law enforcement, one would think that you’re smart enough to make it a point to find out who, with your gun, is between you and the law enforcement.

If someone has broken into your backcountry home and stolen your gun - are you so stupid you’d just say, “eh, maybe next month.” ?

If your gun is stolen, why do you not care?

The law is about lost or stolen. Having your gun stolen in the US backcountry would be very unlikely (I don't believe we have any monkey territory in the US and I do not believe corvids get big enough to take a typical gun), but dropping it and it go sliding where you can't retrieve it is another matter. I live in an open-carry state, I have seen hikers with a gun on their gear on a pretty steep mountain. I can easily picture a hiker taking a tumble and having the gun get dislodged. There are plenty of places up there it could be 20' away yet impossible to obtain without a rope--and since every normal objective on that trail is class 1 I have never seen anyone with a rope there. I have had substantial difficulty retrieving a piece of cloth a mere 6' from the trail.

 

[Toni]

What is so impossible about reporting your gun was lost or stolen within five days of discovering it's missing?

Freedom of speech issue? The government can’t compel you to report?

Of course the government can!

 

[Shadowy Man]

What is so impossible about reporting your gun was lost or stolen within five days of discovering it's missing?

Freedom of speech issue? The government can’t compel you to report?

Of course the government can!

I was contemplating what the detractors would say.