What, exactly, is CRT?

[ZiprHead]

While parents are attacking CRT at school board meetings because it might make their kids "ashamed" of their whiteness...

A slavery petition was the latest racist incident at this school. Parents and lawmakers are fed up

Kansas City (CNN) Nearly two weeks after a racist petition to bring back slavery circulated at her daughter's school, Julie Stutterheim is still angry.

She says it was yet another example of a racist incident at Park Hill South High School in the suburbs of Kansas City, Missouri.

"She was very upset about it. My daughter's Ethiopian," Stutterheim told CNN this week.

Her daughter has encountered racism firsthand, Stutterheim says and "the more she talked about this, the more upset she got."
Stutterheim did what any concerned parent would do and reached out to the school to find out what happened.

What she found was that an increasingly familiar scenario was unfolding at her child's school. Across the US, there are two diametrically opposed conversations about race going on at the same time. In one, some White parents are telling school leaders that lessons about race make White students feel bad. And in the other, there's the racism that is actually happening in schools.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

While parents are attacking CRT at school board meetings because it might make their kids "ashamed" of their whiteness...

A slavery petition was the latest racist incident at this school. Parents and lawmakers are fed up

Kansas City (CNN) Nearly two weeks after a racist petition to bring back slavery circulated at her daughter's school, Julie Stutterheim is still angry.

She says it was yet another example of a racist incident at Park Hill South High School in the suburbs of Kansas City, Missouri.

"She was very upset about it. My daughter's Ethiopian," Stutterheim told CNN this week.

Her daughter has encountered racism firsthand, Stutterheim says and "the more she talked about this, the more upset she got."
Stutterheim did what any concerned parent would do and reached out to the school to find out what happened.

What she found was that an increasingly familiar scenario was unfolding at her child's school. Across the US, there are two diametrically opposed conversations about race going on at the same time. In one, some White parents are telling school leaders that lessons about race make White students feel bad. And in the other, there's the racism that is actually happening in schools.

Geesh, good things these people aren't Germans with their kids being schooled in Germany.

 

[Emily Lake]

New California law now requiring "Ethnic Studies" be imposed in all public schools and made mandatory for graduation:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/newsom-signs-ab101-requiring-ethnic-studies-all-california-students

No wonder people choose private school or home school.

Ignorance is bliss.

IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

 

[Loren Pechtel]

While parents are attacking CRT at school board meetings because it might make their kids "ashamed" of their whiteness...

A slavery petition was the latest racist incident at this school. Parents and lawmakers are fed up

Kansas City (CNN) Nearly two weeks after a racist petition to bring back slavery circulated at her daughter's school, Julie Stutterheim is still angry.

She says it was yet another example of a racist incident at Park Hill South High School in the suburbs of Kansas City, Missouri.

"She was very upset about it. My daughter's Ethiopian," Stutterheim told CNN this week.

Her daughter has encountered racism firsthand, Stutterheim says and "the more she talked about this, the more upset she got."
Stutterheim did what any concerned parent would do and reached out to the school to find out what happened.

What she found was that an increasingly familiar scenario was unfolding at her child's school. Across the US, there are two diametrically opposed conversations about race going on at the same time. In one, some White parents are telling school leaders that lessons about race make White students feel bad. And in the other, there's the racism that is actually happening in schools.

Your two situations are not incompatible.

It's possible for there to be racism against blacks and anti-white things at the same time.

 

[none]

While parents are attacking CRT at school board meetings because it might make their kids "ashamed" of their whiteness...

A slavery petition was the latest racist incident at this school. Parents and lawmakers are fed up

Kansas City (CNN) Nearly two weeks after a racist petition to bring back slavery circulated at her daughter's school, Julie Stutterheim is still angry.

She says it was yet another example of a racist incident at Park Hill South High School in the suburbs of Kansas City, Missouri.

"She was very upset about it. My daughter's Ethiopian," Stutterheim told CNN this week.

Her daughter has encountered racism firsthand, Stutterheim says and "the more she talked about this, the more upset she got."
Stutterheim did what any concerned parent would do and reached out to the school to find out what happened.

What she found was that an increasingly familiar scenario was unfolding at her child's school. Across the US, there are two diametrically opposed conversations about race going on at the same time. In one, some White parents are telling school leaders that lessons about race make White students feel bad. And in the other, there's the racism that is actually happening in schools.

Your two situations are not incompatible.

It's possible for there to be racism against blacks and anti-white things at the same time.

Is white even a color ?
Are you saying colonialism is white? Slavery is white?

 

[Jarhyn]

While parents are attacking CRT at school board meetings because it might make their kids "ashamed" of their whiteness...

A slavery petition was the latest racist incident at this school. Parents and lawmakers are fed up

Kansas City (CNN) Nearly two weeks after a racist petition to bring back slavery circulated at her daughter's school, Julie Stutterheim is still angry.

She says it was yet another example of a racist incident at Park Hill South High School in the suburbs of Kansas City, Missouri.

"She was very upset about it. My daughter's Ethiopian," Stutterheim told CNN this week.

Her daughter has encountered racism firsthand, Stutterheim says and "the more she talked about this, the more upset she got."
Stutterheim did what any concerned parent would do and reached out to the school to find out what happened.

What she found was that an increasingly familiar scenario was unfolding at her child's school. Across the US, there are two diametrically opposed conversations about race going on at the same time. In one, some White parents are telling school leaders that lessons about race make White students feel bad. And in the other, there's the racism that is actually happening in schools.

Your two situations are not incompatible.

It's possible for there to be racism against blacks and anti-white things at the same time.

So, it's not anti-my-husband to point out how his behavior made me feel, when it made me feel shitty. That's pro-my-husband.

It's also not anti-white to point out the things that people have done and perpetuated some very awful things. It's pro-white and pro-black to repair situations that create such rifts.

This is not to say I disagree that there even racist diatribes against white people. Those asshole Isrealites preaching Love* down the street from my house with megaphones stand testament to that.

I just don't think the anti-white things are to admit that society is really fucked up and we need to do something about it.

*(...Is the reason we have to kill them all eventually.)

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Your two situations are not incompatible.

It's possible for there to be racism against blacks and anti-white things at the same time.

So, it's not anti-my-husband to point out how his behavior made me feel, when it made me feel shitty. That's pro-my-husband.

It's also not anti-white to point out the things that people have done and perpetuated some very awful things. It's pro-white and pro-black to repair situations that create such rifts.

This is not to say I disagree that there even racist diatribes against white people. Those asshole Isrealites preaching Love* down the street from my house with megaphones stand testament to that.

I just don't think the anti-white things are to admit that society is really fucked up and we need to do something about it.

*(...Is the reason we have to kill them all eventually.)

The problem is you are assuming there must be one position.

The reality is there are many people involved. There will be a range of positions. An organization can have both racists and white-shame people in it.

 

[DrZoidberg]

While parents are attacking CRT at school board meetings because it might make their kids "ashamed" of their whiteness...

A slavery petition was the latest racist incident at this school. Parents and lawmakers are fed up

Kansas City (CNN) Nearly two weeks after a racist petition to bring back slavery circulated at her daughter's school, Julie Stutterheim is still angry.

She says it was yet another example of a racist incident at Park Hill South High School in the suburbs of Kansas City, Missouri.

"She was very upset about it. My daughter's Ethiopian," Stutterheim told CNN this week.

Her daughter has encountered racism firsthand, Stutterheim says and "the more she talked about this, the more upset she got."
Stutterheim did what any concerned parent would do and reached out to the school to find out what happened.

What she found was that an increasingly familiar scenario was unfolding at her child's school. Across the US, there are two diametrically opposed conversations about race going on at the same time. In one, some White parents are telling school leaders that lessons about race make White students feel bad. And in the other, there's the racism that is actually happening in schools.

Here's something that I reacted to. "my daughter is Ethiopian". WTF does she think the Ethiopian kingdom did to make money back in the day? It was sending tribal Bantu captives as slaves to Rome, the Ottoman kingdom and used them as labour in their plantations.

Hey, lady your daughter is just as fucking historically tainted by slavery as white people. Her playing the victim card here is amazingly insensitive to all the victims of slavery. Back the fuck off.

Also... I see this petition is obviously just teen edge-lording. Lame attempts at shock value humour. Obviously slavery is not coming back. While one might not think it's funny. It's pretty transparent what this is. It reminds me of when I went to school and somebody had slipped leaflets for the neo-Nazi party into the lockers of every student. I'm pretty sure none of the students was a neo-nazi. Just stupid shock value nonsense.

It also reminds me of this joke.

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/bor...rs-to-restore-british-rule-over-united-states

 

[Elixir]

In the South, they teach HCRT:

 

[thebeave]

In the South, they teach HCRT:

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Maybe I haven't been keeping up, but is there really a movement to not teach slavery at all as part of a History class in the South? My understanding is the objections are mostly based on HOW it is being taught, which is something worthy of discussion.

 

[Politesse]

In the South, they teach HCRT:

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Maybe I haven't been keeping up, but is there really a movement to not teach slavery at all as part of a History class in the South? My understanding is the objections are mostly based on HOW it is being taught, which is something worthy of discussion.

There most certainly is. If your "anti-CRT" laws are worded so vaguely that any mention of race is banned in the classroom, you aren't teaching about the real institution of slavery as it existed historically, and broaching the subject at all will be quite difficult.

 

[Trausti]

In the South, they teach HCRT:

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Maybe I haven't been keeping up, but is there really a movement to not teach slavery at all as part of a History class in the South? My understanding is the objections are mostly based on HOW it is being taught, which is something worthy of discussion.

There most certainly is. If your "anti-CRT" laws are worded so vaguely that any mention of race is banned in the classroom, you aren't teaching about the real institution of slavery as it existed historically, and broaching the subject at all will be quite difficult.

Which state are you referring to?

 

[Metaphor]

In the South, they teach HCRT:

View attachment 35689

Maybe I haven't been keeping up, but is there really a movement to not teach slavery at all as part of a History class in the South? My understanding is the objections are mostly based on HOW it is being taught, which is something worthy of discussion.

There most certainly is. If your "anti-CRT" laws are worded so vaguely that any mention of race is banned in the classroom, you aren't teaching about the real institution of slavery as it existed historically, and broaching the subject at all will be quite difficult.

You'll be able to find the legislation that effectively bans the word "race" and post it here for our education, I'm sure.

 

[Elixir]

You'll be able to find the legislation that effectively bans the word "race" and post it here for our education, I'm sure.

Of course the word "race" hasn't been banned! How can they be able to tell you you can't teach about the history or effect of racism if they can't say "race"?

 

[Metaphor]

You'll be able to find the legislation that effectively bans the word "race" and post it here for our education, I'm sure.

Of course the word "race" hasn't been banned! How can they be able to tell you you can't teach about the history or effect of racism if they can't say "race"?

It was not me, but Politesse who suggested that there was or could be "anti-CRT" legislation that effectively banned the word 'race'.

There most certainly is. If your "anti-CRT" laws are worded so vaguely that any mention of race is banned in the classroom, you aren't teaching about the real institution of slavery as it existed historically, and broaching the subject at all will be quite difficult.

And so, I asked for an example of "anti-CRT" legislation that effectively (though its vagueness) banned "any mention" of race.

 

[Politesse]

There most certainly is. If your "anti-CRT" laws are worded so vaguely that any mention of race is banned in the classroom, you aren't teaching about the real institution of slavery as it existed historically, and broaching the subject at all will be quite difficult.

Which state are you referring to?

This entire legislative bugaboo started with a federal, not state, executive order banning "divisive concepts"...

 

[Trausti]

There most certainly is. If your "anti-CRT" laws are worded so vaguely that any mention of race is banned in the classroom, you aren't teaching about the real institution of slavery as it existed historically, and broaching the subject at all will be quite difficult.

Which state are you referring to?

This entire legislative bugaboo started with a federal, not state, executive order banning "divisive concepts"...

So none of the anti-CRT state laws prevent the teaching of slavery?

 

[Elixir]

It was not me, but Politesse who suggested that there was or could be "anti-CRT" legislation that effectively banned the word 'race'.

Right, it was only you that the meaning eluded as you chose to take it literally rather than as a ... oh, nevermind.

 

[Metaphor]

It was not me, but Politesse who suggested that there was or could be "anti-CRT" legislation that effectively banned the word 'race'.

Right, it was only you that the meaning eluded as you chose to take it literally rather than as a ... oh, nevermind.

Rather than what?

Politesse made the following claim:

If your "anti-CRT" laws are worded so vaguely that any mention of race is banned in the classroom, you aren't teaching about the real institution of slavery as it existed historically, and broaching the subject at all will be quite difficult.

What have I misunderstood about Politesse's claim?

 

[Trausti]

Reaping the benefits of CRT.

‘Nation’s Report Card’ finds falling test scores, even pre-covid

The National Assessment of Educational Progress for decades has been measuring student performance in a variety of academic subjects to chart progress — or lack thereof, and dubbing the data the “Nation’s Report Card.” The results released Thursday, based on a nationally representative sample of children, compared scores of 9- and 13-year-olds to those in the early 1970s and in 2012.

The new report finds scores have fallen for Black and Hispanic students since 2012 and remain flat for White children, widening the racial achievement gap. This year also revealed a gender gap, as nine-year-old boys’ math scores stayed steady while girls’ scores fell compared to 2012.

So apparently telling non-White kids to blame White people for all their problems doesn't make the non-White kids do their homework.