Daunte Wright shot with Taser. And by "taser," I mean, "Gun."

[Derec]

NO, he didn't. He picked getting tased. Because that's what Officer Potter yelled over and over.

The thing is that if you make stupid choices, you might get more than you bargained for. Potter made a mistake, but she would not have even tried to pull her taser had he allowed himself to be taken into custody.

 

[Derec]

TomC my friend you've been misinformed. He was stopped for a traffic violation. That stop lead to him being identified and traced to a warrant for his arrest. For the record, it WAS NOT a felony warrant it was a gross misdemeanor warrant. Both you and Derec seem to believe he was a convicted felon and he wasn't. A good person? I have my doubts about that, but a convicted felon he was not.

He was not a convicted felon, but he was charged with a robbery. He died before he had a chance to get convicted. Given that he was already charged with armed robbery (a felony), he never should have been released on bond upon his arrest for a gun crime, even if "only" a gross misdemeanor. It is sadly common these days to release dangerous criminals in the name of "bail reform" and so-called "equity".
By the way, this is Daunte:

 

[Gospel]

Innocent until proven guilty unless your black right Derec? Got it.

 

[Gospel]

The thing is that if you make stupid choices, you might get more than you bargained for. Potter made a mistake, but she would not have even tried to pull her taser had he allowed himself to be taken into custody.

And I thought I was guilty of special pleading.

 

[Gospel]

TomC my friend you've been misinformed. He was stopped for a traffic violation. That stop lead to him being identified and traced to a warrant for his arrest. For the record, it WAS NOT a felony warrant it was a gross misdemeanor warrant. Both you and Derec seem to believe he was a convicted felon and he wasn't. A good person? I have my doubts about that, but a convicted felon he was not.

He was not a convicted felon, but he was charged with a robbery. He died before he had a chance to get convicted. Given that he was already charged with armed robbery (a felony), he never should have been released on bond upon his arrest for a gun crime, even if "only" a gross misdemeanor. It is sadly common these days to release dangerous criminals in the name of "bail reform" and so-called "equity".
By the way, this is Daunte:

It's a good thing the police found that gun on the scene where he was killed. Right? Right, Derec?

 

[Jarhyn]

TomC my friend you've been misinformed. He was stopped for a traffic violation. That stop lead to him being identified and traced to a warrant for his arrest. For the record, it WAS NOT a felony warrant it was a gross misdemeanor warrant. Both you and Derec seem to believe he was a convicted felon and he wasn't. A good person? I have my doubts about that, but a convicted felon he was not.

He was not a convicted felon, but he was charged with a robbery. He died before he had a chance to get convicted. Given that he was already charged with armed robbery (a felony), he never should have been released on bond upon his arrest for a gun crime, even if "only" a gross misdemeanor. It is sadly common these days to release dangerous criminals in the name of "bail reform" and so-called "equity".
By the way, this is Daunte:
<Snip>

It's a good thing the police found that gun on the scene where he was killed. Right? Right, Derec?

So, I bet that we could go back and dig up quite a number of situations where wealthy white men are charged for something, and Derec argues passionately (and still just as wrongly) that being charged, alone, is not sufficient for such aspersions as are layered upon those people there.

Yet being charged for a black man warrants a death sentence.

You know, somewhere in the world, there's video evidence of me doing very nutty things with a rifle. If camera phones had been big in '07 there would be footage of me being uncharacteristically violent and unhinged.

I think there's even footage that one could find on CCTV from a transit platform of me involved in an altercation wherein I block someone's passage.

I'm sure that, displayed, one could paint a picture of me as a violent sociopathic timebomb.

If you brought in some of the things I wrote in college, you could even paint me as a violent alt-right sociopathic timebomb.

I'm sure if I had full access to the film reel of Derec's life, I could paint quite a picture indeed!

The fact is, you can paint any picture of anyone by taking parts and elements of their lives out of context, especially when someone lives in a culture where the way to compliment a thing is often to threaten to steal it, among other such false expressions of hostile intent.

 

[barbos]

So what about the guy who was shot in a head by Dante and now a vegetable?
I don't understand why it's not a part of discussion?
It was not proven in court? or what?

 

[Gospel]

Here is my honest take. Dante wasn't a good person. He likely was another idiot that fell for the lore of being a thug for whatever reason. Whether that reason was him being afraid of being discovered to be soft or he really thought that life was a good choice. Either way, it's bad.


He knew the girl he tried to Rob. As a matter of fact, according to her testimony, he spent the night at her apartment after the party and then attempted to rob her the next morning before fleeing the scene without the money. She described the gun seen in the video Derec posted as the weapon.

I believe her, I think he actually did try to rob her.


Anyhow, while the court system was dealing with that mess, he was caught in a car with other "friends" where he ran off and the police discovered a Black Ruger .45 (obviously not the same gun) and his "friends" lied and said it was his.

The warrant for his arrest was issued as a result of that incident (& lie)and Daunte being the runner he's known for attempted to flee again then Officer Potter pulled her oopsie.

I'll say it again, I don't believe Daunte was an upstanding citizen. This is not about his criminal record. This is about an officer making a mistake and the community they are there to serve. How they handle that mistake is very important for that relationship. That has absolutely nothing to do with who Duante is, but has everything to do with who everyone in the community they serve is to the police.

 

[Gospel]

So what about the guy who was shot in a head by Dante and now a vegetable?
I don't understand why it's not a part of discussion?
It was not proven in court? or what?

Where are the state records for that? Whomever you got that claim from asking them for their source may point us in the right direction.

Otherwise, you're doing the lalaland wishy-washy cotton candy clouds in the sky thing again.

 

[barbos]

So what about the guy who was shot in a head by Dante and now a vegetable?
I don't understand why it's not a part of discussion?
It was not proven in court? or what?

Where are the state records for that? Whomever you got that claim from asking them for their source may point us in the right direction.

Otherwise, you're doing the lalaland wishy-washy cotton candy clouds in the sky thing again.

It was in one of the links. So I am asking what's up with that.

 

[barbos]

I'll say it again, I don't believe Daunte was an upstanding citizen. This is not about his criminal record. This is about an officer making a mistake and the community they are there to serve. How they handle that mistake is very important for that relationship. That has absolutely nothing to do with who Duante is, but has everything to do with who everyone in the community they serve is to the police

it's clear to me that it was a rather forced mistake and police woman should NOT be punished other than being fired because she can't work as a police anymore.

 

[Gospel]

I agree with her not being punished. I believe it was a genuine mistake that she will have to live with for the rest of her life. It's going to be (thanks to their track record in the community) difficult to explain that to the members of the community that have grown to distrust them over a long period of time. The police department IMO was already doing the right thing by taking steps to improve police misconduct reporting. They were/are in the midst of rebuilding their relationship with their communities and this incident put all that work in jeopardy.

If they handle it like you, Derec, and bundle of sticks do by saying to the public, "he was a criminal and brought it on himself" it wouldn't be seen as based on evidence, but a disdain for their community.

 

[Gospel]

The question is, why was he not held without bail after he broke bail conditions previously?

Very good question. I don't understand why a Judge would go with a gross misdemeanor warrant for someone facing felony charges at that time. Surely there is a reason for that.

Anyhow, I highly doubt the Black Ruger .45 found in the car he fled from was Daunte's. It looks nothing like the gun in the video you posted but the gun in the video does look like the one the victim of his attempted robbery described.

 

[Gospel]

I stand corrected. The .45 Ruger was pinned to Daunte by the witness that described him as the one holding it.

Edit: Still don't believe it was his though and that he was the only one carrying it. But it's not important. The law had a witness statement that described Daunte so that's that.

 

[Toni]

Speaking of evidence. I wonder what evidence the police had on Daunte Wright for the "alleged" armed robbery (a felony)? It's strange that the court went with a gross misdemeanor warrant for someone facing felony charges.

According to this, he was charged with the robbery in 2019. But the warrant was for a later, unrelated gun case and him skipping a Zoom court hearing.
The case:

I am going to go out on a limb and say that the listed date of birth is a typo.
The question is, why was he not held without bail after he broke bail conditions previously?

Because apparently there was a lot of confusion over whether or not he received notice of the hearing. The court system did not notify him of a zoom hearing or date/time, much less verify that he had computer access to a computer and internet that would support a zoom meeting. Please note: this was during the pandemic when a lot of government services were limited.

 

[Gospel]

I sincerely hope Officer Potter faces no charges. I have a lot of remorse for her. She is earnestly regretful about her error and I absolutely accept that.

 

[Toni]

So what about the guy who was shot in a head by Dante and now a vegetable?
I don't understand why it's not a part of discussion?
It was not proven in court? or what?

Not proven in court and as far as I know, charges against Wright were never filed for the shooting. He could have done exactly what the victim's mother has alleged. OR she could be going after money that Wright's estate may well win in a wrongful death settlement, either because she honestly believes that Wright shot her son (and he may have--we do not actually know) or because she wants to believe that. I imagine she wants and needs answers and money.

 

[barbos]

So what about the guy who was shot in a head by Dante and now a vegetable?
I don't understand why it's not a part of discussion?
It was not proven in court? or what?

Not proven in court and as far as I know, charges against Wright were never filed for the shooting. He could have done exactly what the victim's mother has alleged. OR she could be going after money that Wright's estate may well win in a wrongful death settlement, either because she honestly believes that Wright shot her son (and he may have--we do not actually know) or because she wants to believe that. I imagine she wants and needs answers and money.

Well, if the mother just came out with this accusation then it's clearly lame attempt at getting money. But if he was accused prior to his own death then it's a different story.

 

[Toni]

Wright was killed during a time when state wide, the state had issued a moratorium on stops for expired plates because so many people had difficulty getting access (or safe access) to the DMV or even to get through on line to the DMV to renew plates. This was well known, widely broadcast news.

Wright was not shot for robbing peole or for waving illegal guns around.

Interactions with police are often negative and frankly dangerous for any black person, including people who are well educated, upstanding citizens. No one here is arguing that Wright was a good person.

The police ARE there to protect Wright and every other citizen. Bad people have rights. Even convicted criminals (which Wright was NOT) have rights. ALL people have rights. Even black people.

You are correct that prejudice is a huge problem when it comes to even very routine police matters. Why would Dante Wright assume that he would NOT be killed by the police? Less than a year earlier, in broad daylight in front of dozens of witnesses, George Floyd was murdered by police officers who taunted the crowd who begged for Floyd's life.

Do I think that Wright was a good person? Probably not. Do I think he deserved to die in a traffic stop? Nope.

 

[Toni]

So what about the guy who was shot in a head by Dante and now a vegetable?
I don't understand why it's not a part of discussion?
It was not proven in court? or what?

Not proven in court and as far as I know, charges against Wright were never filed for the shooting. He could have done exactly what the victim's mother has alleged. OR she could be going after money that Wright's estate may well win in a wrongful death settlement, either because she honestly believes that Wright shot her son (and he may have--we do not actually know) or because she wants to believe that. I imagine she wants and needs answers and money.

Well, if the mother just came out with this accusation then it's clearly lame attempt at getting money. But if he was accused prior to his own death then it's a different story.

The mother filed the lawsuit about 6 weeks after Wright's death. I haven't found any charges against Wright in the shooting of her son. It would have been pointless to file a lawsuit against someone (or their estate) who had no money. I don't blame her, actually. She's probably desperate for money to pay for her son's continuing care. Virtually anyone would be.